USB 3.0 and Faster FireWire in Next Mac Pro, iMac?

[jcpenn]

i dont think apple would support usb3 at this moment since the spec is not finalized yet, besides, there is no point to move usb3 if apple only supports keyboard and mouse. the "faster firewire" might be plenty enough for most devices.. but I have never heard any thing about faster firewire... maybe it's another remarked product? or interface? lightpeak? no way, Intel is not ready for lightpeak yet... still another few years to go.

 

[skellener]

http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=12372

$489 - ouch! Now that's a bag of hurt!

 

[skellener]

The iPhone can not serve as a mobile hotspot...where as the Palm Pre and many Android phones can. This is a feature sorely missing on the iP4.

But as soon as the jailbreak comes out it will.

 

[MorphingDragon]

$489 - ouch! Now that's a bag of hurt!

$NZD

...and to think, the premium for the external case is only $100. What a deal

 

[50548]

I have 200/100 Mbps for about the same. (200 Mbps local download speed inside country and 100 Mbps outside).

And where do you live, Singapore?

 

[MorphingDragon]

And where do you live, Singapore?

He lives in the matrix.

 

[2005CTS]

Only way I am throwing my blu-ray disk is when you pry them from my cold dead hands.

Dead technology, maybe if you own a cheap tv. but on my 50 inch Samsung I don't think so, and lets not even get started on the sweet sound of 7.1.

Steve can say what every he wants, I am sure he uses blu-ray at home also. That its not as big deal on the computer side, ok I can see that, a bit expensive still for hardware and disk but there is nothing DOA about the technology, as well as how nice the PS3 runs movies.

I was being very sarcastic!!! I am holding onto my extensive blu-ray collection no matter what SJ and the fanboys say.

 

[50548]

That logic is flawed, for if I were to use the same logic, that would mean Windows is the superior OS. We all know deep down inside that that is completely untrue.

BTW, I don't think Europe is a clear indicator of how the global internet market is at. You guys have a government that actually cares if companies compete.

I've never compared BR with Windows, and never said it isn't good in terms of image/sound.

My point is simply that its adoption won't ever be at the same level as DVD was, plus the fact that today we have a lot more options for a lot less hassle. NOBODY will ever care to replace his/her DVD collection with BR discs, simply because the benefit is not there.

This is fundamentally different from the major leaps vinyl-CD or VHS-DVD, which totally justified themselves in terms of portability/features/quality.

As for the US, I've mentioned it because it is supposedly at the forefront of the BR push; if it isn't even successful there, what to say of the adoption rates in Europe or other major markets such as Brazil, China and India?

 

[skellener]

I was being very sarcastic!!! I am holding onto my extensive blu-ray collection no matter what SJ and the fanboys say.

OK, Blu-ray fanboy.

 

[MRomine]

What's the end of summer? Aug, Sept, Oct?

 

[Master Chief]

I can see streaming movies will eventually become mainstream, but it will be many years before BD is obsolete, just as CD is still around today, more than seven years since iTunes store debuted...

And even vinyl isn't dead. Last year almost 1.9 million records were sold in the US. That's a massive number for the DJ scene only.

Correction: That was 2008. Not 2009.

 

[2005CTS]

It's not a dead technology... yet. That's where the big shift is going to happen over the next 5+ years. People are tired of having to re-buy their entire media collections each time a new format comes out. They will begin questioning why they need to own their own collection of music and movies they barely watch more than once. They'll decide they'd rather have access to a huge database of content for a one time rental or an all-you-can-eat subscription fee. Think about it... you buy a DVD or Blu-Ray for ~$20 and watch it how many times? OR you rent it on demand once for ~$5 or as many times as you want as part of your monthly "media bill." It'll take a little bit longer for bandwidth/data transmission speeds to get where they need to be for this to be feasible for the masses but you watch what happens in the next 5 years.

With the demand on the internet both land lines and data plans over the cell networks...I predict it will be much longer than 5+ years until losses audio with 7.1 channels of sound is available for download.

And even if it were five years...that is an eternity in the electronics industry. Why not cater to that market and make some money off of it while you can? It is only SJ pride that prevents this...and his desire to force people to buy compressed HD content off of iTunes.

 

[MorphingDragon]

I've never compared BR with Windows, and never said it isn't good in terms of image/sound.

My point is simply that its adoption won't ever be at the same level as DVD was, plus the fact that today we have a lot more options for a lot less hassle. NOBODY will ever care to replace his/her DVD collection with BR discs, simply because the benefit is not there.

This is fundamentally different from the major leaps vinyl-CD or VHS-DVD, which totally justified themselves in terms of portability/features/quality.

As for the US, I've mentioned it because it is supposedly at the forefront of the BR push; if it isn't even successful there, what to say of the adoption rates in Europe or other major markets such as Brazil, China and India?

I know weren't comparing BD to windows. I was just pointing out your flawed logic.

 

[2005CTS]

OK, Blu-ray fanboy.

That's for damn sure!!! I admit it. I have internet access on my TV and "HD" content over the internet sucks compared to watching a blu-ray disk...especially the audio. We are a long way from seeing blu-ray going the way of VHS.

 

[MorphingDragon]

That's for damn sure!!! I admit it. I have internet access on my TV and "HD" content over the internet sucks compared to watching a blu-ray disk...especially the audio. We are a long way from seeing blu-ray going the way of VHS.

Internet has replaced my TV, BD has replaced my Cinema.

 

[2005CTS]

$489 - ouch! Now that's a bag of hurt!

No kidding. Apple should offer it as an upgrade. Especially on an iMac...isn't the entire point ofan iMac to have a clean desk fee of other plug in peripherals? Give me one blu-ray drive that plays CDs, CDs and DVDs - don't force me to purchase an ugly box that sits beside my beautiful iMac (the one I buy as soon as the refresh is dropped).

 

[wirelessness]

no blu-ray, no sale.

how can someone justify getting a 27 inch top of the line iMac and not able to legitimately buy and watch 1080P movies??

Physical media is going the way of the dinosaur.

 

[MorphingDragon]

Physical media is going the way of the dinosaur.

There is evidence to show that Dinosaurs evolved into what we now know as birds. They found fossils with feathers and dinosaurs have a similar leg structure to birds AND there is proof that dinosaurs were actually warm blooded.

So BD is going to evolve into a tasty sandwich.

 

[cohen777]

end of summer

Hurray! The Mac Pro will be updated sometime soon. By the way, when is the "end of summer"?

 

[skellener]

They will begin questioning why they need to own their own collection of music and movies they barely watch more than once. They'll decide they'd rather have access to a huge database of content for a one time rental or an all-you-can-eat subscription fee. Think about it... you buy a DVD or Blu-Ray for ~$20 and watch it how many times? OR you rent it on demand once for ~$5 or as many times as you want as part of your monthly "media bill." It'll take a little bit longer for bandwidth/data transmission speeds to get where they need to be for this to be feasible for the masses but you watch what happens in the next 5 years.

Bandwidth/data transmission speeds aren't everything. How about reliability? Connections still fail. Yes, even when wired. It's going to be a lot longer than 5 years for really fast, really stable internet - at least here in the U.S. telcos and cablecos and wireless carriers just don't give a ****. They really don't care about giving you better quality or service. They know they got you. There really is no competition.

 

[Cave Man]

Physical media is going the way of the dinosaur.

Not for a couple of decades.

 

[skellener]

Not for a couple of decades.

You said it 100% Cave Man.

 

[Brien]

Yay! Yet again a new FireWire port that is incompatible with everything!

I want Apple to bring back FireWire 400: Digital medium format cameras, pro camcorders and tape decks all use 400. Having to use an expensive adapter for everything is a pain, and finding out that your entire university is filled with macs but you can't download the pictures from the medium format camera because you forgot your freaking adapter at home makes me really angry!

FireWire 3200 uses the same shape port as 800, but I'd reckon the cables are different.

 

[skellener]

No kidding. Apple should offer it as an upgrade. Especially on an iMac...isn't the entire point ofan iMac to have a clean desk fee of other plug in peripherals? Give me one blu-ray drive that plays CDs, CDs and DVDs - don't force me to purchase an ugly box that sits beside my beautiful iMac (the one I buy as soon as the refresh is dropped).

The iMac is easily the best computer I have owned. I have a 24" 2008 model, but it works fantastic! I would absolutely buy another one whenever this one goes belly up. A 27" quad or whatever else they have by the time I'm ready for a new one.

 

[cmp]

Hurray! The Mac Pro will be updated sometime soon. By the way, when is the "end of summer"?

Dont you know?

The end of summer is the second Tuesday in August.