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No it's a function of "you haven't been using it for the last 6 years so there might a little to get used to".....

I don't have any problem losing my place when swiping control center up....and I for one am glad the multitasking tray doesn't keep all my apps going while I'm not using them.....

So you'd rather have the icon in a little dock than the card view? Personally, I don't find the new way technically better, but it sure as hell looks a lot nicer.

Oh and some of those apps do update in the background - iOS 7 intelligent multitasking. It learns when you open regularly used apps and updates them just before you'd normally open them so the content is fresh when you get there.

Again - you seem to simply have aesthetic problems with iOS 7. Which is fine....but you're crazy.

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Facepalm.

I've said many times I like the aesthetic changes, and my gripes are not with the aesthetics.

You seem to have a hard time gauging other people's opinions and views.
 
Most reports indicate that the upcoming 7.1 release greatly speeds up the animations and OS as a whole.

It's somewhat more fluid, yes, but it's certainly not some sort of night and day difference. The animation speed is slightly faster and there are some minor stability and usability fixes.
 
It's obvious at this point that IOS 7 divides opinion as probably any redesign of IOS would - but honestly, I still have no idea what most of the complainers are talking about.

I've used IOS daily since 2008, from v2 onwards, and as much as I've always loved my iPhone by IOS 6 it had become clunky, dated, inconsistent in design and really a poor shadow of its former self. For me it wasn't even very reliable.

IOS 7 was and is a massive improvement in my eyes - yes it may have some rough edges (mostly solved by 7.1 as I understand) but the overall design is better, it's much more pleasant to use IMHO, and for me anyway it's far more reliable too (in all honesty the reports of crashing and battery troubles are completely alien to me, and I can only speak as I find). I love IOS 7 and I'm very, very glad that Apple had the courage to move on and make it.
 
So over the course of 10 hours and 26 minutes, you only put your phone down for an hour and 12 minutes? Unless you were listening to music most of the time, which doesn't use much battery at all.

Yep, I pretty much hammer it all evening. No music, just Safari/texts/calls.
 
I don't think it's entirely fair to say that people just hate change. There are a ton of very valid, logical, well-grounded criticisms of things in ios 7. I won't list them, as they're all over the place, but it's really not just that it isn't the same. I think people on a rumors forum in particular are likely more excited about the changes than the average population... But we are quick to notice the details that have changed for the worse. ;)

I was as excited as anyone for iOS 7... But the sluggish feel of navigating the OS, the Music.app, and a variety of smaller issues kind of ruined it for me. At least the feel should be restored by 7.1, but half a year on 7.0.x is a bit of a buzz kill.

It would all be entirely forgivable, IMHO, if Apple allowed people to revert back until the 7.1 update becomes available.

I know. That's why I said "SOME people". So many arguments that I read on here are about people complaining that it just looks so different, and iOS 6 just looked better and so on. There are definitely some annoyances about iOS7, just as I would expect from a completely new OS, which had roughly a 6 month development period until it was first shown at WWDC. I for one am glad they released it the way it was in October rather than wait. Can you imagine the complaints on here had they not released a "new" version? Some people would rather have iOS6 for another year, and that's fine. But personally I've enjoyed iOS7 and haven't had major issues with it.
 
iOS 7 is SO clean and modern that the pertinent information is lost on the screen. So much of iOS 7 is like that. There is so much room for improvement on what was introduced in iOS 7 that that Apple probably already has a roadmap for what the next 5 version of iOS will look like.

"There's so much room for improvement things can only get better". :confused:

The weather app is one of the things that looks much better in iOs 6
 
Facepalm.

I've said many times I like the aesthetic changes, and my gripes are not with the aesthetics.

You seem to have a hard time gauging other people's opinions and views.

Valid gripes are one thing - I just don't see your examples as terribly valid.

Perhaps suggesting how it could be improved would help?
 
I think iOS 7 brings a lot of potential to the platform's future. The big opportunities that we'll see come to fruition in a year or two will not have been possible under iOS 6. I think Apple reached the breaking point with iOS 6 and had to make a large change. Large changes face the risk things not being perfect, and recurring a learning period to get right. It's clear why Apple has been so conservative in it's changes in iOS in the past, but the time has come for change.

As for the new aesthetic, I think it makes a lot more sense going forward. iOS 6 is a lot like the old way of building websites, with tables of images that fit together. iOS 7 is similar to CSS; it's stretchable, it can adapt to multiple screen sizes. If the previous png based interface was to be used going forward, a new set of images would have to be made for multiple devices, one for iPhone, iPad, iWatch, Siri in the car, it would be a mess. Even the vibrant colors serve a purpose. The colors were chosen to look legible wether against a dark or light background.
 
LOL

I remember when I had been complaining about the speed of iOS 7 back in its beta days and even posted videos to prove, almost everyone rebuked me saying 'I was using it too fast, it was a beta, blah-blah-blah.'

Months later, it's still slow as hell.

Trust me, even 7.1 is a freaking snail compared to iOS 6.

P.S. Please stop saying iOS 7 is better than iOS 6 just because there is a new feature that lets you turn on Bluetooth from the lock screen. 'New features' is a logical progression of any OS. We're talking about performance here. Performance-wise, iOS 7 is a freaking disaster.
 
LOL

I remember when I had been complaining about the speed of iOS 7 back in its beta days and even posted videos to prove, almost everyone rebuked me saying 'I was using it too fast, it was a beta, blah-blah-blah.'

Months later, it's still slow as hell.

Trust me, even 7.1 is a freaking snail compared to iOS 6.

P.S. Please stop saying iOS 7 is better than iOS 6 just because there is a new feature that lets you turn on Bluetooth from the lock screen. 'New features' is a logical progression of any OS. We're talking about performance here. Performance-wise, iOS 7 is a freaking disaster.

Sorry but this is just utter, utter nonsense. My iPhone 5 on IOS7 is FAST and has been since the update. There is nothing wrong with the performance whatsoever, it easily matches IOS6 in every way that matters. Maybe the animations are milliseconds slower - simply because they're designed that way - in all honesty I'm fine with that as long as the transitions are smooth and don't get in the way, and they don't. When they get faster in 7.1 - great.

My wife has the 4S - again, it's perfectly quick, no problem at all. Unlike in IOS 6, her messages app doesn't lock up frequently anymore, the same way that the wifi on my 5 is so much more stable - because IOS 7 is better than IOS 6, whether you accept me saying that or not.
 
I think iOS 7 brings a lot of potential to the platform's future. The big opportunities that we'll see come to fruition in a year or two will not have been possible under iOS 6. I think Apple reached the breaking point with iOS 6 and had to make a large change. Large changes face the risk things not being perfect, and recurring a learning period to get right. It's clear why Apple has been so conservative in it's changes in iOS in the past, but the time has come for change.

As for the new aesthetic, I think it makes a lot more sense going forward. iOS 6 is a lot like the old way of building websites, with tables of images that fit together. iOS 7 is similar to CSS; it's stretchable, it can adapt to multiple screen sizes. If the previous png based interface was to be used going forward, a new set of images would have to be made for multiple devices, one for iPhone, iPad, iWatch, Siri in the car, it would be a mess. Even the vibrant colors serve a purpose. The colors were chosen to look legible wether against a dark or light background.

I agree, it was a necessity on Apple part to make way for different display sizes
 
This is a little off topic but only a little bit. I've have no major issues with iOS7. I think Apple is definitely on the right track with it. I have my iPad original running iOS 5 and besides multitasking which I think has gotten so much better, I don't hate iOS 5 (or 6).

That being said, I don't understand why people on this forum expect their iPhone 4 to run anything as well as their friend's or wife's or who ever's iPhone 5s. :confused::confused::confused:

They don't.
The beef is that their devices don't run anything like as well as they did with iOS6.
 
They don't.
The beef is that their devices don't run anything like as well as they did with iOS6.

No I get that. But if you search this thread, and almost any other thread referencing a similar statement, there are people complaining about that, too.
 
What's happened with the iPhone 4 is nothing new; many people complained their 3gs's were slowed down by IOS 6, the 3G before that was practically floored by IOS 4 and never even got an update to 5. The problem is newer, more advanced software takes more resources - but if apple don't make that software available to devices that were still on sale just a year ago then people are still going to complain anyway, so they're damned either way.
 
When I use iOS 6, it's just so snappy. The interface changes in iOS 7 I quite like, but the speed of animations/feeling of responsiveness is painfully slow (e.g. you can't do anything until the animation finishes).

Disappointed to hear 7.1 isn't really any better.
 
What's happened with the iPhone 4 is nothing new; many people complained their 3gs's were slowed down by IOS 6, the 3G before that was practically floored by IOS 4 and never even got an update to 5. The problem is newer, more advanced software takes more resources - but if apple don't make that software available to devices that were still on sale just a year ago then people are still going to complain anyway, so they're damned either way.
I recall various people with 3GS that said that iOS 6 was actually better than iOS 5 which slowed things down for them even more. So it's not really consistent exactly.
 
What's happened with the iPhone 4 is nothing new; many people complained their 3gs's were slowed down by IOS 6, the 3G before that was practically floored by IOS 4 and never even got an update to 5. The problem is newer, more advanced software takes more resources - but if apple don't make that software available to devices that were still on sale just a year ago then people are still going to complain anyway, so they're damned either way.
Apple apologists often say that but where are people complaining that their device can't run iOS 7? (I'm not talking about previous releases but specifically iOS 7)

Considering the fact that upgrading is a one-way street, Apple has a responsibility to their customers to ensure that if they enable a device to upgrade that the performance will be on par with what they are currently running.

Not only does Apple allow upgrades in questionable scenarios, but they forcefully download the install image to any device they have allowed to upgrade... space taken up that cannot be regained unless they upgrade.
 
I can't imagine 3GS users, whose phones are at least two years old now and originally date back to
2009, clamouring for IOS 7 - especially when IOS 7 is so clearly designed around the retina screens which their phones don't have. iPhone 4 users are different - their phones are potentially much more recent and are cosmetically identical to the 4S - complete with retina screen - that runs IOS 7 perfectly well. We'll never know for sure since they've always had the option to update and a great many have, but I think it's a safe bet that ip4 owners would have been unhappy not to get it.

Given that there are rumours of the ip4 actually going back into production for developing countries, it's in apples interest to get IOS 7 working well on it anyway.
 
I can't imagine 3GS users, whose phones are at least two years old now and originally date back to
2009, clamouring for IOS 7 - especially when IOS 7 is so clearly designed around the retina screens which their phones don't have. iPhone 4 users are different - their phones are potentially much more recent and are cosmetically identical to the 4S - complete with retina screen - that runs IOS 7 perfectly well. We'll never know for sure since they've always had the option to update and a great many have, but I think it's a safe bet that ip4 owners would have been unhappy not to get it.

Given that there are rumours of the ip4 actually going back into production for developing countries, it's in apples interest to get IOS 7 working well on it anyway.
It really should have been in Apple's interest to get it working well on iPhone 4 before iOS 7 was released to begin with.
 
It really should have been in Apple's interest to get it working well on iPhone 4 before iOS 7 was released to begin with.


It was in their interest, obviously. They just didn't manage it, or at least not to everyone's satisfaction here.

There ARE happy iPhone 4 users using IOS 7; they may not be shouting about it here but they do exist. The outcry I've seen over this is nothing compared to the furore over IOS 4 on the 3G so clearly things aren't that bad.
 
It's obvious at this point that IOS 7 divides opinion as probably any redesign of IOS would - but honestly, I still have no idea what most of the complainers are talking about.
I do. I don't hate iOS 7 because of some complainers. I srongly hated iOS 7 right after seeing it during the WWDC live stream. After that, I found out I'm not alone in that opinion and that iOS 7 is also much slower and buggier despite being mostly just a coat of paint. My real-life experience with iOS 7-infested devices just confirmed my thoughts about this disaster. The disaster that makes Vista and even ME look like jewels.

I've used IOS daily since 2008, from v2 onwards, and as much as I've always loved my iPhone by IOS 6 it had become clunky,
How can a bad coat of paint and a lack of visual affordances make the UI less clunky?

iOS 6's UI is not outdated, it is unfashionable. It is also structurally and functionally identical to iOS 7.

inconsistent in design,
The whole idea of iOS 6's "skeuomorphic" design is that each app is appropriately themed to morph an iOS device into a similarly-sized specialised device. Do you consider this incosistency and iOS 7's splashes of white, neon and translucency to be consistency?

really a poor shadow of its former self.
How did classic iOS degrade?
 
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It was in their interest, obviously. They just didn't manage it, or at least not to everyone's satisfaction here.

There ARE happy iPhone 4 users using IOS 7; they may not be shouting about it here but they do exist. The outcry I've seen over this is nothing compared to the furore over IOS 4 on the 3G so clearly things aren't that bad.
Agreed. Although aren't that bad is still some ways from good.
 
Sorry but this is just utter, utter nonsense. My iPhone 5 on IOS7 is FAST and has been since the update. There is nothing wrong with the performance whatsoever, it easily matches IOS6 in every way that matters. Maybe the animations are milliseconds slower - simply because they're designed that way - in all honesty I'm fine with that as long as the transitions are smooth and don't get in the way, and they don't. When they get faster in 7.1 - great.

My wife has the 4S - again, it's perfectly quick, no problem at all. Unlike in IOS 6, her messages app doesn't lock up frequently anymore, the same way that the wifi on my 5 is so much more stable - because IOS 7 is better than IOS 6, whether you accept me saying that or not.
Agree.
All this whining about speed in iOS 7 is a non sense for me.
iOS 7 was fast on my iPhone 5 and is equally fast on my 5S.

I don't care about animations, actually I like it very much.
 
LOL

I remember when I had been complaining about the speed of iOS 7 back in its beta days and even posted videos to prove, almost everyone rebuked me saying 'I was using it too fast, it was a beta, blah-blah-blah.'

Months later, it's still slow as hell.

Trust me, even 7.1 is a freaking snail compared to iOS 6.

P.S. Please stop saying iOS 7 is better than iOS 6 just because there is a new feature that lets you turn on Bluetooth from the lock screen. 'New features' is a logical progression of any OS. We're talking about performance here. Performance-wise, iOS 7 is a freaking disaster.

Lol hey Chicken Little, the sky is falling.

Performance-wise, iOS 7 runs like a dream on all my iOS devices.

See, I can post anecdotal evidence too. :rolleyes:

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When I use iOS 6, it's just so snappy. The interface changes in iOS 7 I quite like, but the speed of animations/feeling of responsiveness is painfully slow (e.g. you can't do anything until the animation finishes).

Disappointed to hear 7.1 isn't really any better.

Painfully slow = milliseconds....

Seriously guys - this forum should win the Academy Award for best dramatic performance.....utter hyperbole and nonsense.

I tap, an animation zooms in and out - takes less than a split second. You can even turn them off.

To say such minuscule time is "painful" is absurd. Seriously.
 
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