That's a system nobody ever saw on this side of the galaxy
Your swipe at China was kinda racist so I won't quote that Trumpism.
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Users Find Some New MacBook Pros Suffer From Major Graphics Issues
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That's a system nobody ever saw on this side of the galaxy
Your swipe at China was kinda racist so I won't quote that Trumpism.
Same. Big thanks, tho, to all the unwitting beta testers out there for going through all this
Just so you're clear where the China swipe originated from, I'll re-quote it below. Thanks for the heads up about the 2003 MBP, I corrected it to PowerBook.
Since new MacBook Pro models launched last month, an increasing number of early adopters have reported serious graphics issues on Apple's latest notebooks. The glitches and other problems appear to be most prevalent on built-to-order 15-inch models, but standard 13-inch and 15-inch configurations are also affected.
MacRumors reader Jan Becker, for example, said the graphics began to glitch on his new high-end 15-inch MacBook Pro, equipped with built-to-order AMD Radeon Pro 460 graphics, while transcoding video with Adobe Media Encoder in Premiere Pro. The notebook subsequently crashed.
Becker claims when he took his MacBook Pro to an Apple retail store to be replaced, an employee said the graphics issues are likely a hardware problem. He later claimed he received a phone call from Apple's headquarters in Cupertino, California, where it allegedly has a team of engineers looking into the issues.The most common symptoms reported by users include brightly colored flickering, full-screen checkerboard patterns, screen tearing, and other visual artifacts. Affected systems may subsequently experience unresponsiveness or a kernel panic, sometimes resulting in the MacBook Pro crashing.
15-inch MacBook Pro with AMD Radeon Pro 460 graphics with full-screen visual artifacts
The high-end 15-inch MacBook Pro with Touch Bar and built-to-order AMD Radeon Pro 460 graphics appears to be most commonly afflicted, but several users have reported similar issues on 15-inch models equipped with standard AMD Radeon Pro 450 or AMD Radeon Pro 455 GPUs as well.
MacRumors reader Jayselle recorded his 15-inch MacBook Pro with AMD Radeon Pro 455 graphics flickering while connected to two external LG displays.
It is not entirely clear if the issues are a hardware or software problem. The graphics appear to act up most when users are completing intensive tasks, such as transcoding video with Adobe Media Encoder, syncing large photo libraries with Photos, or using other Adobe apps such as Photoshop and Lightroom.
It would initially seem the issue is limited to 15-inch MacBook Pro models with dedicated AMD graphics, but there are a few isolated reports of graphics issues on 13-inch models with integrated Intel Iris 540 and Intel Iris 550 graphics -- including the new 13-inch MacBook Pro with a standard row of function keys.
User complaints extend to the Apple Support Communities and other MacRumors discussion topics, indicating the graphics issues are rather widespread, but not all users are affected. Some speculate the latest macOS Sierra beta may fix the issues, but evidence remains anecdotal.
Separately, a number of users are reporting brief glitches during the boot up process on new MacBook Pro models, particularly along the bottom of the screen. It appears this issue is related to FileVault 2 startup disk encryption, as the glitches go away for many of these users once the feature is disabled.
As insurance, Apple's extended holiday return policy is currently in effect. MacBook Pros purchased or delivered between November 10 and December 25 are eligible for return until January 8, 2017 in the United States, Australia, and Canada, or January 20 in the United Kingdom and some other European countries.
Select 2011-2013 MacBook Pro models have exhibited similar graphics issues in the past, including distorted video, no video, or unexpected system restarts. Apple accordingly launched a Repair Extension Program offering free repairs and refunds, but not before facing a class action lawsuit over the matter.
Apple appears to be aware of and is investigating these latest graphics issues, but it has yet to publicly comment on the matter. Apple been actively exchanging MacBook Pros for affected customers, according to users. Schedule a Genius Bar appointment or contact Apple Support to facilitate this process.
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Textbook overheating of the GPU. GG Stupid Apple Thin design.
I've always used a mix of windows (work,home prior to OS X) Linux (work) and OS X (home).
How do I like it so far?
- I find it much easier to use home and end on laptop to get to start and end of a file or line. For what ever reason I never found this easy on a mac.
- I miss time machine. Although windows does have file history which might be the same thing (still investigating) and windows backup (windows 7) which is still around. I use drop box, google drive and one drive for files in any case so time machine was more about backing up apps...
- Apple still has the best trackpad on a laptop.
- Muscle memory is a bitch, even though I use windows at work. That just takes time.
- I can't wait to purchase textpad, my favorite editor of all time which has group support in regexes and just has a simple interface unlike text wrangler (your mileage WILL vary).
- I miss the App Store on OS X.
- I like the discount I can get on non Apple gear. I got $750 off my dell xps 15.
- I like my ports, removeable ram and ssd.
- I miss MagSafe a bit, but Apple removed that anyway.
- I love being able to dock two windows to each half of my widescreen laptop (windows+left or right)
- I love that double clicking on a app title bar makes it go full screen, I've never like apples full screen approach.
- I love being able to cut and paste files.
- I'm loving in some ways that Apple discontinued aperture. I have now moved to light room and adobe has managed to extract $12 a month from me. Something I said would never happen. Light room is different but I will get used to it and feel it is heaps better than aperture. Yes I know you can get light room on the mac but I still had aperture and why switch from something I was happy using..
- Bash on windows, who would have thought, I'm loving it.
- Will need to check if Cortana understands me better than Siri. (Like this post if you are Scottish as you'll understand )
- I miss the layout of Activity monitor in some ways, mainly the energy reporting, but not needed it so far. The battery is lasting fine so far compared to my mac which was starting to get crap at 81% after 600-650/1000 cycles.
- I'm loving not worrying about whether or not my dGPU is running on the mac sucking battery, yes I know the dell has one nad is probably on all the time but I haven't needed to worry about battery so far.
- I love the fact that I have a touch screen for when I want to sketch diagrams.
- I thought it would be the dell screen that would be a fingerprint magnet, turns out it is the keyboard surround/palm rest.
- Dell screen just as good as apples.
- Can launch apps just as quick as OS X - cmd + space vs windows key.
- I miss the "you can install this on 5 macs" right in the App Store without having to pay extra. Does anyone know if I can put office 365 personal on a second pc if I also buy a windows desktop? I wouldn't want to buy a home license if I am the only person using both. (Son and wife have their own laptop and or desktop)
- I don't play games, but my son loves his pc for games, offered to buy him a mac but he declined. We had a great time together building a pc from parts. Not the kind of bonding session you get to do with your son with Apple.
- A lot of people complain about windows update. Yes I'd like to be able to choose when I let it but I haven't been hit with that one yet. It updates when I am asleep and it has only forced me to restart just once so far (had machine about 3 weeks?) come on Microsoft.
- I miss the fact that OS X is free. Come on Microsoft. Even if I have to pay for a single copy, please let me install it on every computer in the house. Not sure if Microsoft is switching to apples way and making windows 10 the last version and just updating it.
- I miss that "imovie" equivalent does not come free with new machines. But having said that I've not been a fan of iMovie.
- I FREAKIN LOVE NOT BEING DICTATED TO BY APPLE.
- I miss the tree view of windows explorer, where did that go.
- I won't miss finder.
- I miss two finger swipe to go back in browser history.
- I love windows shortcuts. Windows is miles ahead of the mac in being able to drive it using a keyboard. Apple always makes you reach for the mouse.
- I like being able to do file history to my permanently plugged in USB-A thumb drive.
- Id never thought I would say this but could Micro$oft become the new Apple?
- I am not missing how the Apple brand was making me feel. I think this is a huge worry for Apple unless they can survive for ever on the iPhone. Apple has a massive problem in that it seems it can only Apple all to a single group because it only has single products. It almost looks like it only has a single line of laptops now the Apple MacBook
Proit's still the best looking machine out there but my mum always told me it's not the looks but what's inside and Apple is rotten at its core.
But on balance I am currently happy with my move, time will only tell.
man....maybe I'm lucky? I have the radeon 460 and have had absolutely no graphics problems. Maybe I just don't fall under the "intensive tasks" category? I routinely render architectural models in bootcamp and, like previously stated, have seen none of this. I grow tired of logging on to macrumors and seeing nothing but bashing, I love this thing. Only problem I had was the bootcamp speaker issue.
All of this does make me look for the possibility of tampering to undermine Apple.
BTW, we have LOT of SOUR GRAPES, HATERS and TROLLS HERE.
No, the new Macbook pro is not slower than previous models. I've got BOTH and stop watching idiots on Youtube. Every real test shows that both the 13 and 15 models carry higher FPS and significant speed bump in rendering, which is exactly what I've seen.
As for this issue, the sky is not falling. I work in Hollywood and these new machines have been bought up fast. In short: I know a LOT of people and companies already using them. I have yet to hear of any issues, though it's clear that there's some bugs that need to be fixed. They will be and that's that.
As I said earlier, stop acting like a bunch of babies. If you're worried, wait. Otherwise most won't have an issue. And if you do, it will be fixed under warranty or you can return it.
And to review again...once you adapt a bit, this is the best keyboard EVER. You're also getting the best screen EVER. I have it side-by-side running PS and the new screen on the 13 is clearly superior to the old Retina. Even without the extra stuff and speed, these are beautiful.
BUT...200 dollars cheaper and they would have made more sense in this market.
R.
No, the new Macbook pro is not slower than previous models. I've got BOTH and stop watching idiots on Youtube. Every real test shows that both the 13 and 15 models carry higher FPS and significant speed bump in rendering, which is exactly what I've seen.
As for this issue, the sky is not falling. I work in Hollywood and these new machines have been bought up fast. In short: I know a LOT of people and companies already using them. I have yet to hear of any issues, though it's clear that there's some bugs that need to be fixed. They will be and that's that.
As I said earlier, stop acting like a bunch of babies. If you're worried, wait. Otherwise most won't have an issue. And if you do, it will be fixed under warranty or you can return it.
And to review again...once you adapt a bit, this is the best keyboard EVER. You're also getting the best screen EVER. I have it side-by-side running PS and the new screen on the 13 is clearly superior to the old Retina. Even without the extra stuff and speed, these are beautiful.
BUT...200 dollars cheaper and they would have made more sense in this market.
R.
While I agree with all your observations except that they will become another Sony, because Sony's quality control had been consistent over time, and any quality spill they may had is nothing in comparison with the crappy software and hardware quality of nowadays, plus the persistent removal of features and functions that apple had pursued, as well as their planned obsolescence via software updates, or their aim to have you pay for a subscription service for life.
I do have to wonder about some of the issues happening to people running Windows on a Mac...it's like, really? You just love that Mac hardware so much, huh? I don't consider issues in Windows-on-Mac to be a real Mac issue, sorz.
Apple says, you guys turn it on wrong lol After Pricegate, Donglesgate, now Displaygate. MAKE MBP GATE AGAIN lol
Thanks for this great post. As someone who works in both MacOS and Windows 10, what you say above makes a lot of sense to me. Basically, there's instances where MacOS is superior for me and instances where Win10 is better.
However if Apple is going to put out products like the new MacBook Pros which are a step backward and overpriced, while at the same time not bothering to update their other MacOS products (Mac Mini, Mac Pro, etc..), then it does make it more compelling to go Windows at home as well.
Still, the 2015 Macbook Pro that's still available is very tempting...
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I really wish they couldn't keep inflating the prices. They are pricing people out of productivity.
Fair enough. I really do just think that developers just need to add support for the mobile Polaris GPU's but you are right they should of at least been updated.
They just never learn... ATI again.
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That was the 'old' Apple... the 'new' Apple is about profits and mass consumer sales. Whole different ballgame.
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That was the 'old' Apple... the 'new' Apple is about profits and mass consumer sales. Whole different ballgame.
Interesting that all of the older MBP refurbs are gone from the Apple Store...Knew I should have bought one instead of the new refrigerator.
No doubt. I was planning on getting one of the new MBPs w/o Touch Bar (and w/ TB3) to use as my primary machine. I'm going to have to rethink that, I guess. I wasn't quite ready to make the jump to Windows, but I think I might have to accelerate my Apple exit strategy. This company is sinking much more quickly than I expected.
You might want to bring it back for support. May be a problem with your device. I was playing with a 4K screen version of it today again, and still feel like it is a decent machine.
I have seen excellent reviews. In fact, that is what you get if you google just that.
They just never learn... ATI again.
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That was the 'old' Apple... the 'new' Apple is about profits and mass consumer sales. Whole different ballgame.
The 'new' Apple seems to be rotten to the Cook...er..I mean core.
There are the masses that will never see this site and will flock to the new & shiny and from what I learned from a member of the Executive Team, they (the Team, or other Apple TM's) are not to view or pay attention to sites such as this. Tim & Co.don't care and are lounging on their piles of stock options and cash.
I'll probably just buy, before they go away, another Mac Mini, just for backup and hopefully within the next 5 years, Tim will be gone. Just don't know who can lead the herd anymore.....
Yes - it is called Tim Cook = one of Steve's biggest mistakes.
It's racist to say Apple products are made in China and not California??? Okay, Bro.Just so you're clear where the China swipe originated from, I'll re-quote it below. Thanks for the heads up about the 2003 MBP, I corrected it to PowerBook.
IMHO, I believe there are a lot of 'Pro' users here that are disappointed with the way things are headed.
1. Define 'LOT' of people and companies. These machines haven't been out that long and available in large quantities.
2. If I purchase a machine that I rely on to do my heavy lifting, at this time, to have to wait to have a warranty repair, well...
3. Yes, this is an overpriced machine.
4. Best screen, only if it works. See point #2
5. This is a crippled piece of machine that has now become a disposable POS that, to me, cannot function without the use of extra cost 'dongles'. And to think, many people want to get rid of extra cables and such. That was the issue with the Mac Pro trash can.
Don't mean to rain on your parade, but I have been with Apple since 1984 and this appears to be the worst debacle ever.
And maybe Phil is right to a point. 'Can't innovate any more" The magic's gone and all that's left is smoke and mirrors.
In my case, I love the Mac, but I need Windows for SoildWorks, since there is no reasonable alternative for the MacOS: There is NX that runs on several operating systems ago, only. And there is Autodesk Fusion 360 which is totally internet based: files are stored online and standard file formats like STEP and AGIS must be uploaded to their servers to even view them: slow connection or no connection: sorry, no work. Also I've encountered a few devices that only offer Windows versions of updates and/or controllers: a Leviton lighting controller and, ironically, my Apple CarPlay Pioneer AVIC-6200NEX. I'm sure there are lots of other examples. I think it is amazing that Apple makes Windows run on their system.