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Still doesn't have a true thermal benchmark. Eventually this machine will be running high CPU rate with high GPU rate for games. If we get a good thermal bench comparison with the Vega 20 (which given 80C is good) then all we need to see is the i7 & i9 running at 100% with graphics running high too. One is going to have better efficiency...but until I see, I don't know which.
 
simultaneously INTEL XTU cpu stress and maxed FURMARK will kill this machine

As it will any other laptop that’s less twice MBPs size...

It’s an interesting test to check the limits, but practical relevance is very limited. No game will get you even close to that level of stress.
 
simultaneously INTEL XTU cpu stress and maxed FURMARK will kill this machine
My wife attempted to kill one by driving a hatchback over it. It was not intentional so we are still married. :)

The Mac is bent like banana and the screen has 50 shades of broken, but the Mac still runs well on external display. Even the keyboard is working 100% good.

I forgot to mention the model, 2012 15" MBPR i7, some Nvidia GPU, 8GB RAM and 256GB storage. Built like a tank!
 
My wife attempted to kill one by driving a hatchback over it. It was not intentional so we are still married. :)

The Mac is bent like banana and the screen has 50 shades of broken, but the Mac still runs well on external display. Even the keyboard is working 100% good.

I forgot to mention the model, 2012 15" MBPR i7, some Nvidia GPU, 8GB RAM and 256GB storage. Built like a tank!

Sounds like the MacBook has a smashgate problem.
 
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lol. I hear these also have #boomgate problems & #bulletgate problems. When will they ever end? I expect my MacBook to keep working when a stick of Dynamite goes off next to it.
You'll first need to wedge it out of the door frame ha ha ha.
Jokes aside, these were some good Macs.

Now, I am so excited about the new new MBP 15" that I wont sleep tonight. I need to wait 15 days to see if any problems will surface...
 
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I'll have mine on order as soon as I get an answer on the i7 vs i9 thermal efficiency. I need this thing to last under load. I didn't think I'd spend the extra for the i9, but the initial temps look better than I thought.
 
I would also been curious about the thermal for i7 and the fan noise when connected to an external monitor (say 4k). Right now I'm debating if I should go for the i7 + Vega 20 or keep base model and buy an eGPU...
 
My wife attempted to kill one by driving a hatchback over it. It was not intentional so we are still married. :)

The Mac is bent like banana and the screen has 50 shades of broken, but the Mac still runs well on external display. Even the keyboard is working 100% good.

I forgot to mention the model, 2012 15" MBPR i7, some Nvidia GPU, 8GB RAM and 256GB storage. Built like a tank!

Do I dare even ask about how it got on the ground so that she would even have the opportunity to run the hatchback over it?
 
She placed a bag with the Mac on the ground and leaned it on the right rear tire. Loaded the dog in the trunk and happily drove off in reverse. :)
She placed a bag with the Mac on the ground and leaned it on the right rear tire. Loaded the dog in the trunk and happily drove off in reverse. :)

That reminds me of National Lampoons vacation where he tied the dog to the bumper and forgot about it....till the motorcycle cop pulled him over. lol!
 
She placed a bag with the Mac on the ground and leaned it on the right rear tire. Loaded the dog in the trunk and happily drove off in reverse. :)

I guess if could have been worse. At least you didn't load the laptop into the car and run over the dog :)

That reminds me of National Lampoons vacation where he tied the dog to the bumper and forgot about it....till the motorcycle cop pulled him over. lol!

Speaking of tying dogs and motorcycles... it also reminds me of this Suzuki commerical :)

 
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Looks like the vega 20 units might be handling the heat of the i9's slightly better than previous models. Any chance you could take the bottom cover off and upload a photo of the cooling fans? Curious if there is a visible change.
 
still a pretty bad evaluation of the new MacBook Pro with Vega. Thermal design is pretty critical...When AMD bought up ATI, nVidia decided to forget about thermal limits in order to put ADM so far behind them that they could never catch up & possibly abandon GPU development all together. No one really cared about thermal design until laptops started dropping like flies based off the theoretical GPU thermal design limits. On the bright side, nVidia validated the GPU time to death based on temperatures to almost an exact month. That's why I'm so concerned that no one is really covering the thermal design limit...give apple an inch, they'll take a mile. Granted, I think this model is fine, but if they see us not looking at the cpu/gpu thermal dissipation, they'll stick with the same design for upcoming models.
 
still a pretty bad evaluation of the new MacBook Pro with Vega. Thermal design is pretty critical...When AMD bought up ATI, nVidia decided to forget about thermal limits in order to put ADM so far behind them that they could never catch up & possibly abandon GPU development all together. No one really cared about thermal design until laptops started dropping like flies based off the theoretical GPU thermal design limits. On the bright side, nVidia validated the GPU time to death based on temperatures to almost an exact month. That's why I'm so concerned that no one is really covering the thermal design limit...give apple an inch, they'll take a mile. Granted, I think this model is fine, but if they see us not looking at the cpu/gpu thermal dissipation, they'll stick with the same design for upcoming models.

It seems the guy in this video explained it well. Apple chooses to offer a laptop of a level of performance in a packaging and design that you can't get with Windows. That like any design decisions, results in some tradeoffs. Performance-design-packaging, you can pick two the old saying goes. If you want top tier performance you get one of the Windows laptops with a brick power source and big fans, room for ventilation, etc. If you want the best performance POSSIBLE in a sleek sexy design, go MacBook Pro. The cost of your sexy light beautiful laptop will be about 15% - 20%. You pick what you want. It seems that straightforward to me...
 
It seems the guy in this video explained it well. Apple chooses to offer a laptop of a level of performance in a packaging and design that you can't get with Windows. That like any design decisions, results in some tradeoffs. Performance-design-packaging, you can pick two the old saying goes. If you want top tier performance you get one of the Windows laptops with a brick power source and big fans, room for ventilation, etc. If you want the best performance POSSIBLE in a sleek sexy design, go MacBook Pro. The cost of your sexy light beautiful laptop will be about 15% - 20%. You pick what you want. It seems that straightforward to me...
Yet the benchmark only covers basic performance. I've been doing this for years & the info is far lacking.
 
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