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I would also been curious about the thermal for i7 and the fan noise when connected to an external monitor (say 4k). Right now I'm debating if I should go for the i7 + Vega 20 or keep base model and buy an eGPU...

Have just received my MBP Touch I9/32GB/512/Vega 20 and am returning it, when connected to my LG 34WK95U-W monitor, the fans spins at around 5500 rpm, and the whole computer gets sluggish, mouse is laggy, program windows doesn't respond very well.

if I unplug the monitor all is well, but I can't live with the noise from the fans, and the sluggishness

I have exactly the same monitor standing on the desk besides me, with a late 2016 13" MacBook Pro tough with 16gb ram, and 512GB SSD, and it has no performance issues with the same monitor setup.

I guess the I9 just gets to warm, when having to drive an external TB3 5K monitor, so its going back

i have now ordered a new 13 MacBook Pro, 16GB and 512SSD, so I basically will have to identical machines with identical monitors.

I tried, different screen resolution with the Macbook 15 but nothing helped.

MAC Fans Control, show around 5500-6000 rpm when the monitor is connected, and drops to around 2500rpm when the monitor is disconnected, with the same programs running.

So its going back

Sincerely Carsten Larsen
Denmark
 
Have just received my MBP Touch I9/32GB/512/Vega 20 and am returning it, when connected to my LG 34WK95U-W monitor, the fans spins at around 5500 rpm, and the whole computer gets sluggish, mouse is laggy, program windows doesn't respond very well.

if I unplug the monitor all is well, but I can't live with the noise from the fans, and the sluggishness

I have exactly the same monitor standing on the desk besides me, with a late 2016 13" MacBook Pro tough with 16gb ram, and 512GB SSD, and it has no performance issues with the same monitor setup.

I guess the I9 just gets to warm, when having to drive an external TB3 5K monitor, so its going back

i have now ordered a new 13 MacBook Pro, 16GB and 512SSD, so I basically will have to identical machines with identical monitors.

I tried, different screen resolution with the Macbook 15 but nothing helped.

MAC Fans Control, show around 5500-6000 rpm when the monitor is connected, and drops to around 2500rpm when the monitor is disconnected, with the same programs running.

So its going back

Sincerely Carsten Larsen
Denmark

You don't think it has anything to do with spotlight indexing? Maybe try turning off indexing and then plug in the monitor again. It doesn't bode well regardless, all that would tell us is the system will ramp up the fans under anything above idle I would imagine.
 
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Have just received my MBP Touch I9/32GB/512/Vega 20 and am returning it, when connected to my LG 34WK95U-W monitor, the fans spins at around 5500 rpm, and the whole computer gets sluggish, mouse is laggy, program windows doesn't respond very well.

if I unplug the monitor all is well, but I can't live with the noise from the fans, and the sluggishness

I have exactly the same monitor standing on the desk besides me, with a late 2016 13" MacBook Pro tough with 16gb ram, and 512GB SSD, and it has no performance issues with the same monitor setup.

I guess the I9 just gets to warm, when having to drive an external TB3 5K monitor, so its going back

i have now ordered a new 13 MacBook Pro, 16GB and 512SSD, so I basically will have to identical machines with identical monitors.

I tried, different screen resolution with the Macbook 15 but nothing helped.

MAC Fans Control, show around 5500-6000 rpm when the monitor is connected, and drops to around 2500rpm when the monitor is disconnected, with the same programs running.

So its going back

Sincerely Carsten Larsen
Denmark
I'm hoping the i7 doesn't do this, maybe I need to get my two new monitors (LG 34UC98-W) the same time in case I need to return the MacBook Pro 15".
 
I think 3DMark 11 physics maxes out at 8 cores.
 
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Have just received my MBP Touch I9/32GB/512/Vega 20 and am returning it, when connected to my LG 34WK95U-W monitor, the fans spins at around 5500 rpm, and the whole computer gets sluggish, mouse is laggy, program windows doesn't respond very well.

if I unplug the monitor all is well, but I can't live with the noise from the fans, and the sluggishness

I have exactly the same monitor standing on the desk besides me, with a late 2016 13" MacBook Pro tough with 16gb ram, and 512GB SSD, and it has no performance issues with the same monitor setup.

I guess the I9 just gets to warm, when having to drive an external TB3 5K monitor, so its going back

i have now ordered a new 13 MacBook Pro, 16GB and 512SSD, so I basically will have to identical machines with identical monitors.

I tried, different screen resolution with the Macbook 15 but nothing helped.

MAC Fans Control, show around 5500-6000 rpm when the monitor is connected, and drops to around 2500rpm when the monitor is disconnected, with the same programs running.

So its going back

Sincerely Carsten Larsen
Denmark

Actually the 560x ran my Ultrafine 5k just fine so maybe you should hold onto for more than 2 hours before you flip your lid.

The 560x can run (2) 5K monitors. The Vega 20 should be just fine.

Enjoy your 13" haha, I can't even believe you returned that beast for a 13" because your too ignorant. Serves you well.
 
The Vega 20 seems to run cooler than the 560x that I traded in. However, I don't have specific numbers from something like HWmonitor. At 1920x1200 it runs Battlefield V at 60-80fps on medium settings. WOW (for a mac)!

EDIT: Video if you want to see:
 
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You don't think it has anything to do with spotlight indexing? Maybe try turning off indexing and then plug in the monitor again. It doesn't bode well regardless, all that would tell us is the system will ramp up the fans under anything above idle I would imagine.

No I don't think so, am also experiencing blackouts, where the monitor disconnect, while in use, and then I need to unplug and replug the TB3 cable to get it back, my 13" doesn't do that.

sincerely Carsten Larsen
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Actually the 560x ran my Ultrafine 5k just fine so maybe you should hold onto for more than 2 hours before you flip your lid.

The 560x can run (2) 5K monitors. The Vega 20 should be just fine.

Enjoy your 13" haha, I can't even believe you returned that beast for a 13" because your too ignorant. Serves you well.

thank you for the nice comment, always good to read such nice comments.........
 
Still no real thermal benchmarked...still waiting on that.
To produce a thermal benchmark, you'd need something like TG Pro or iStat menus to see the GPU temp. Intel power gadget will show the CPU temp & clock & current voltage. Run dev null in terminal until you hit 100% cpu to burn that in & run something like heaven benchmark to get the GPU running.
command:
yes > /dev/null

For those who have expressed concerns that this will destroy their MacBook...then you probably shouldn't have purchased it as you just expressed concern that the MacBook won't down clock now & will simply go beyond the thermal limits. This will prove that it is designed to avoid those limits & it will show the performance difference between the i7 & the i9.
 
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3DMark (2013) physics seems good for at least 16 cores.

One can clearly see the difference in AVX2 between AMD and Intel.
 

Torture test, CPU throttled to 1.8 ghz with gpu and cpu maxed. ouch.

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The Vega 20 seems to run cooler than the 560x that I traded in. However, I don't have specific numbers from something like HWmonitor. At 1920x1200 it runs Battlefield V at 60-80fps on medium settings. WOW (for a mac)!

EDIT: Video if you want to see:

On Low settings? That isn't very good then.
 
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No I don't think so, am also experiencing blackouts, where the monitor disconnect, while in use, and then I need to unplug and replug the TB3 cable to get it back, my 13" doesn't do that.

Then it was defective. I'd have asked for replacement rather then completely returning it.
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Torture test, CPU throttled to 1.8 ghz with gpu and cpu maxed. ouch.

As I wrote in the other thread replying to the identical post, this makes it better than Razer Blade or Dell XPS 15" — these throttle more.
 
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The Vega 20 seems to run cooler than the 560x that I traded in. However, I don't have specific numbers from something like HWmonitor. At 1920x1200 it runs Battlefield V at 60-80fps on medium settings. WOW (for a mac)!

EDIT: Video if you want to see:

Can you please send your official bootcamp GPU drivers to the guy who runs bootcampdrivers.com? :) (He is asking people to do it, so he can get to work. Would do it myself, but mine will arrive in 2 weeks..)
With better drivers we may experience some miracles concerning performance!
 

Torture test, CPU throttled to 1.8 ghz with gpu and cpu maxed. ouch.

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On Low settings? That isn't very good then.

Thanks! Was that the i9 or i7 model? I'm wondering if the fans went to 100% or not...on my iMac, the fans didn't so I overrode that & cranked them a bit higher. That brought the temps down when max performing.

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So why does this matter so much to me? Looking at that CPU speed, I would like to compare that against the other CPU (at the moment I don't know if this is the i7 or i9). If those two chips are identical & simply clocked different, both will produce the same result, clocking down to the same frequency. In that case, I'd save the money & go i7. If one of the two chips are more efficient, this test will show that & that is the chip I will go for.
 
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i9. They should have with that load.
Thanks. Now I just need to see an i7. I'm hoping the i9 is more efficient. Also, those numbers are not that bad, but only really worthwhile in deciding between the two chips. Thermal control appears good under load. The temps go back to 90 which is not a bad temp. I prefer 80, but that's not a big deal. I made a pitch to a company about developing a cooling pad so if the bottom gets hot, you don't have to worry about that.

Edit: one more question, you used Heaven for the GPU side, right?
 
Thanks. Now I just need to see an i7. I'm hoping the i9 is more efficient. Also, those numbers are not that bad, but only really worthwhile in deciding between the two chips. Thermal control appears good under load. The temps go back to 90 which is not a bad temp. I prefer 80, but that's not a big deal. I made a pitch to a company about developing a cooling pad so if the bottom gets hot, you don't have to worry about that.

He was running Prime95 and that Heavens benchmark at the same time. That hammers it pretty hard, and doubt anyone would hit it that hard. I almost clicked on the ORDER button for a base iMAC Pro for $4700~ with AC included. But something held me back again when I started thinking this. It isn't that bad. I like the 5k screen, but I can choose any screen if I get the MBP with an external gpu. Hmm...
 
So why does this matter so much to me? Looking at that CPU speed, I would like to compare that against the other CPU (at the moment I don't know if this is the i7 or i9). If those two chips are identical & simply clocked different, both will produce the same result, clocking down to the same frequency. In that case, I'd save the money & go i7. If one of the two chips are more efficient, this test will show that & that is the chip I will go for.

The CPU doesn't matter, both will throttle similarly. It also depends on your luck, since every chip is different.

But most importantly, you will never experience this kind of throttling in a practical situation, unless you try playing games while transcoding a bunch of 4K videos or do something similarly silly. This is a stress test, designed to push the machine to an unreasonable limit. Its like testing a car by loading it up to the safely limit, chaining it to a tree and then pushing the throttle as hard as you can trying to get it up a gravel road at a high incline.

The only purpose of this test is testing the limits, and its doing exactly what its supposed to do — clocking down to prevent damage. Not to mention that these results are better than any other comparable laptop (for example, Dell XPS throttles down to 1.5Ghz and Razer Blade to 1.7Ghz). If you want a machine that can do better — start looking at large and heavy gaming and workstation laptops.
 
The CPU doesn't matter, both will throttle similarly. It also depends on your luck, since every chip is different.

But most importantly, you will never experience this kind of throttling in a practical situation, unless you try playing games while transcoding a bunch of 4K videos or do something similarly silly. This is a stress test, designed to push the machine to an unreasonable limit. Its like testing a car by loading it up to the safely limit, chaining it to a tree and then pushing the throttle as hard as you can trying to get it up a gravel road at a high incline.

The only purpose of this test is testing the limits, and its doing exactly what its supposed to do — clocking down to prevent damage. Not to mention that these results are better than any other comparable laptop (for example, Dell XPS throttles down to 1.5Ghz and Razer Blade to 1.7Ghz). If you want a machine that can do better — start looking at large and heavy gaming and workstation laptops.

If you actually care about possibly saving money, this is actually extremely important. I'm posting the info on another thread. Also, I drive 100% CPU & GPU on the games I play today...I have on most of my previous hardware because they get old & games get demanding. You don't have to care if you replace it every couple of years...I make my money last, though.
 
Also, I drive 100% CPU & GPU on the games I play today....

You do not, period. There is *not* a single game that can push a CPU like Prime95 can or the GPU like Furmark does. Simply doesn't exist. And also won't, because that would be terrible programming and not playable on any computer.

Does it throttle more than the 560X when its fully under load?

No, they throttle similarly. As does any other laptop thats not at least twice as thick.
 
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Yet another video with benchmarks. Huge gap between the 560x and vega 20 in heaven benchmark (21.1fps vs 38.4fps), and even more impressive performance (30%) in windows (49fps). We might argue about the cost or all the wrongs of Apple, but this is a "beast" in a sexy and very thin envelope. I repeat, very thin envelope. There are other laptops even faster, but HUGE. An we have to give a credit for the engineering of this little "devil"...
 
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