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John Legere is going crazy on Verizon right now on twitter.:eek:

https://twitter.com/JohnLegere
John Legere just announced,"Starting Fri, #TMobileONE price includes HD video & 10GB high-speed hotspot data –all at no extra charge. AND taxes & fees are included!"
So basically just adding what Verizon included in their plan?
So, the T-Mo announcement is that T-Mobile One will be adding HD Video and 10gb hotspot starting Friday. How is that supposed to be better than Verizon? Just seems copycat.
Yeah, doesn't really seem like "one-upping" there (aside from the fact that their plan includes taxes/fees already in the price, which isn't new at this point).
 
John Legere just announced,"Starting Fri, #TMobileONE price includes HD video & 10GB high-speed hotspot data –all at no extra charge. AND taxes & fees are included!"

Yep, just getting ready to post that. 120.00 a month total and decent tether speeds now. I like cell service wars.
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So basically adding what Verizon included in their plan?

Yeah, doesn't really seem like "one-upping" there (aside from the fact that their plan includes taxes/fees already in the price, which isn't new at this point).

For me its one upped because verizon offers only 500mb per day outside the us, t mobile unlimited lte and cheaper.
 
Ouch, those prices must really hurt.

First, this is not "unlimited data" plan, because transfer slows down after first 10GB.

Second, I hava truly unlimited data plan for equivalent of 20 USD.
 
So basically just adding what Verizon included in their plan?

Yeah, doesn't really seem like "one-upping" there (aside from the fact that their plan includes taxes/fees already in the price, which isn't new at this point).

T-Mo's price is cheaper, $70 compared to Verizon's $80. Their throttling begins at 28gb, VZW is 22gb.
 
I'm not the only one worried and that is because the term congestion is a very opened comment and that is why I'm asking "who will be supervising this loop hole that they can always claim it's congested and you'll just have to wait until it's in congested, which could theoretically be at the next billing cycle. Now was that so hard to understand? I didn't think so. Just remember once u get burned your thinking process changes.


Really ridiculous. Just who do you think supervises it, chuckie schumer? The company you are doing business does. They guarantee you 22 gb before possible slowdown, either you do it or you don't simple.
 
Ouch, those prices must really hurt.

First, this is not "unlimited data" plan, because transfer slows down after first 10GB.

Second, I hava truly unlimited data plan for equivalent of 20 USD.
10 GB applies to tethering, not mobile data, and, as you said, simply a different speed of transfer gets used, not that you can't keep on using data.
 
"By slowing down those people, they can have more capacity on existing infrastructure."

"I have an extremely hard time believing in today's advanced technological world "there just isn't enough bandwidth to go around."

Those two statements directly contradict. Either 1) Verizon does not have capacity and throttling is justified or 2) Verizon has virtually unlimited capacity and throttle for no reason whatsoever just to be jerks.

Suppose they have a large influx of new sign ups and their system just can't handle it ,what would prevent them from resorting to throttle customers after the 22 to just continue on till the end of their cycle. I never said they would do something like that for no reason but u know that desperate times called for desperate measures. Do if there is no one supervising then anyone is vulnerable to this happening.

So you're saying Verizon doesn't have adequate capacity, and so their solution would be to throttle on both congested and non-congested towers because... they're lazy?

I can't see why they would throttle heavy users in non-congested areas and nothing either of you said suggests more than conspiracy mongering to me.
 
What matters now, is the tos in place for the new plan.
Ars omitted one key detail, mentioned by Kellex in the OP on Droid Life, later confirmed by VZW:

"Verizon is forcing these out of contract “extraordinary” data users to move to The Verizon Plan (a tiered plan) by August 31 or they will shut down the line." My emphasis.

http://www.droid-life.com/2016/07/20/verizon-unlimited-data-rip-tetherers - third paragraph, FYI.

My 4 legacy lines are still under contract, having played their "loopholes" game with buying subsidized iPhones through VARs and extending an additional 2 years each line each time. My call to VZW confirmed the aforementioned limitations apply to out of contract subs only and with personal-liable accounts. The updated TOS addresses the soft caps (device and tethering usage) by informing the user you may have your network connection throttled. Cheers…
 
T-Mo's price is cheaper, $70 compared to Verizon's $80. Their throttling begins at 28gb, VZW is 22gb.
But that's all part of essentially existing things, not something new that is there in response to Verizon's unlimited to "one-up" it.
 
T-Mo's price is cheaper, $70 compared to Verizon's $80. Their throttling begins at 28gb, VZW is 22gb.

With taxes verizon's is in the 90's so over 20. Dollars more. Verizon gives you 500mb data roaming to canada and mexico, t mobile the same unlimited as the us. So yea, more than one upped I think.
 
NOW Legere upped the ante, saying there's a promo price starting Friday for $100 for two lines (Verizon is $140 for two, 2x$70).
 
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John Legere just announced,"Starting Fri, #TMobileONE price includes HD video & 10GB high-speed hotspot data –all at no extra charge. AND taxes & fees are included!"

I wonder if that's HD video without having to activate passes every day though.
 
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Verizon will not throttle.throttling is not the same as de-priorization.

Sorry, when "de-prioritizing" means slower speeds, that's throttling. Yeah, they can say "subject to...." all they want, it's just additional lingo that sugarcoats what it really is.

Because "throttling" got the government's attention, carriers do everything to get away from that term.
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Verizon's plan has unlimited tethering.

Technically true, but after 10GB, it's 3G speed.
 
Just dropped my AT&T grandfathered UDP for this.

So far so good

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Those two statements directly contradict. Either 1) Verizon does not have capacity and throttling is justified or 2) Verizon has virtually unlimited capacity and throttle for no reason whatsoever just to be jerks.



So you're saying Verizon doesn't have adequate capacity, and so their solution would be to throttle on both congested and non-congested towers because... they're lazy?

I can't see why they would throttle heavy users in non-congested areas and nothing either of you said suggests more than conspiracy mongering to me.
My question is simple. How do you as a customer know that when Verizon will throttle you, is because of overload or because they have to service new customers ? Very simple question. It's not a conspiracy, it's a simple question. Most other companies who throttle, do so until new cycle starts again .Verizon however says that they won't do that. So the question is with their loop hole of throttling how does one know the reason for it.
 
Sorry, when "de-prioritizing" means slower speeds, that's throttling. Yeah, they can say "subject to...." all they want, it's just additional lingo that sugarcoats what it really is.

Because "throttling" got the government's attention, carriers do everything to get away from that term.
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Technically true, but after 10GB, it's 3G speed.
Well, it's not just about slower speeds, it's also about how, when, for how long, etc.--all those things play a big role and are somewhat different as far as "deprioritization" and "throttling" go as those terms are applied to carriers.
 
My question is simple. How do you as a customer know that when Verizon will throttle you, is because of overload or because they have to service new customers ? Very simple question. It's not a conspiracy, it's a simple question. Most other companies who throttle, do so until new cycle starts again .Verizon however says that they won't do that. So the question is with their loop hole of throttling how does one know the reason for it.
What most other companies say that? Seems like many are in fact not saying that and are talking about "deprioritizing" rather than "throttling" that you are referring to.
 
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