They didnt cripple anything. CDMA doesnt allow for it, period, end of story. There is no way around it.
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Verizon iPhone Launches with Mobile Hotspot and Redesigned Antenna
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They didnt cripple anything. CDMA doesnt allow for it, period, end of story. There is no way around it.
That's really interesting. I just ran SpeedTest on my iPhone 4 and I'm getting 3.2 Mbps download / 1.38 Mbps upload speeds. I'd love to know where you got your information that the iPhone 4 will "only do 1 mbps on a good day". Also, what Verizon phones will get 50 Mbps on their existing 3G or even 4G network?
I use Navigon, which has the maps pre-loaded. I find it surprising, though that determining the location does not use any data. How does this work 'data-free'?
Speculation - iPhone 5 in June will probably be more along the lines of iPhone 4"S" anyway, like iPhone 3G -> 3GS. Verizon users would be equally pissed (probably more) if AT&T got a shiny new iPhone 5 and they didn't. Then the universal iPhone 6 comes out in June 2012 for everyone.
Correct. I can use GPS navigation apps with my iPad 3G, even though I currently do not have a cellular data plan.
What would be interrupted by a call would be streaming data, stuff like live traffic or Internet radio (like Pandora).
Your current iPhone 4 does not support HSPA+ .
Hate to burst your bubble, but it's still a 3G device.
It works on the current iPhone. In the pre-3G iPhone days, murdering the battery was a defense Apple used against moving towards 3G...yet today we can use UTMS 3G data and maintain GSM voice connections simultaneously without a problem. So I don't see why the CDMA iPhone can not use two separate antennas to assure that voice and data can be used simultaneously as well.
On the Verizon FAQ Page it states that the iPhone 4 will come preloaded with VCast Media Manager. Now it's been many a year since I've had Verizon, but I'm curious why this would be on/necessary on an iPhone 4. Since everything comes through iTunes (unless jb of course), what good is the Media Manager? 
I've seen it work
I've read the posts about CDMA not allowing Data and Voice at the same time.
I was giving my Verizon friend a hard time when he got a Droid. He said he never had a problem using the phone and surfing the web.
We were out on a lake, in a boat. He could call my iPhone, surf the web and download apps all while talking to me on speakerphone.
I don't know how it was possible, but he definitely didn't have a wifi connection. I'm positive he was doing both at the same time on Verizon.
I've read the posts about CDMA not allowing Data and Voice at the same time.
I was giving my Verizon friend a hard time when he got a Droid. He said he never had a problem using the phone and surfing the web.
We were out on a lake, in a boat. He could call my iPhone, surf the web and download apps all while talking to me on speakerphone.
I don't know how it was possible, but he definitely didn't have a wifi connection. I'm positive he was doing both at the same time on Verizon.
It all depends on how "forgiving" the TCP/IP session is for lost/late packets. Most apps won't pause longer than a minute before dropping the session.
Good for you, on 3G I get about 1Mbps up and down and usually have 3-4 bars on my iPhone 4.
Yep. I used this with my xv6700 as a tethered and wifi hotspot solution. In either case a call comes through and drops your data connection.
Restart your connection when done.
It's only bad if you have data you need to access online such as outlook contact data or a web based email.
No. the iPhone is HSDPA, not plus. It can get theoretical 7.2, but not the higher '4G' HSPA+ speeds.
Yeah, but there where 3 antennas and now there are 4... Maybe a redundant one, so if you're bridging the gap or something in one, the other can still work... Just a guess...
Something else is using data, not GPS.
I have an iPad 3G with no cellular data plan and the GPS works fine.
I'm using Navfree (which has built-in maps).
why fail?
In four years of owning iPhones I never, not a single time used the internet while I was talking on the phone.
As long as calls get priority and interrupt the internet use so that I don't miss calls there is no difference to what I do now. So again why is this a fail?
I think you are more the exception. I do it regularly. Actually frequently if my voice is using blue tooth, then I can be chatting about the game I'm watching on "game-cast", or looking up whatever it is we are discussing. Places to eat, finding a movie time, etc.
GPS doesn't require a "data" connection to determine your location.
There is a GPS receiver in your phone that gets location info from GPS satellites.
A-GPS will combine Cell Tower info along with the GPS signal to help improve location accuracy if the GPS signal is weak.
i don't get it either.
Besides, I turn on my EVO 4G hotspot and I can surf and talk at the same time, all for cheaper monthly rates. ;-)
All the carriers are brainwashers. Verizon (LTE), AT&T (LTE and HSPA+), T_Mobile (HSPA+), and Sprint (Wimax) stretched the definition of 4G according to the ITU. The only carrier that waited until the ITU Definition of 4G changed in December was AT&T.