Well said. Unless people have genuine signal/coverage issues with AT&T I don't see customers switching from AT&T iPhone to Verizon iPhone. Most of Verizon's customers will be either existing Verizon customers switching to iPhone or brand new customers. Then again AT&T is offering iPhone 3GS for $49 now. Is the iPhone 4 worth a $150 premium for everybody wanting to get an iPhone?
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Well said. Unless people have genuine signal/coverage issues with AT&T I don't see customers switching from AT&T iPhone to Verizon iPhone. Most of Verizon's customers will be either existing Verizon customers switching to iPhone or brand new customers. Then again AT&T is offering iPhone 3GS for $49 now. Is the iPhone 4 worth a $150 premium for everybody wanting to get an iPhone?
Whoop, Whoop ... that's the sound of the Beast. Whoop, Whoop ... that's the sound of the Police.
I see/hear this error all the time.
*fixed*
The New York Times is reporting that Tim Cook said that you will be able to make FaceTime calls over 3G on the Verizon iPhone 4. Can anyone else confirm that?
And on a side-note, is there going to be a video of the event posted anywhere? I'd love to watch it later tonight.
And on a side-note, is there going to be a video of the event posted anywhere? I'd love to watch it later tonight.
Because everyone who was waiting for a white iPhone gave up long ago and settled for a black one.
Not everyone. I'm still holding strong ... only 5 1/2 mos left. smdh
Good question. From what I've read and seen over and over, Apple doesn't jump onto new-technology bandwagons until they are confident they can utilize it and keep the user experience positive. I think this is similar to their stance on Blu Ray ("a bag of hurt" they've called it) and similar to how the released an Edge-only iPhone originally on AT&T and then when 3G was more mature they upgraded to 3G. I also wouldn't assume that all Android users are happy. I'm sure some are and very many will make the jump. I work at a high tech firm with a bunch of young hot shots who love their Verizon network and are variously disappointed by all of the various Droid phones they seem to go through like hot cakes. They are itching to ditch their Android phones and move to a Verizon iPhone for what they perceive will be a superior network experience (less dropped calls, better reception at work where our inside AT&T reception sucks and Verizon is very good and faster data)
I'm quite certain that as the new Verizon high(er) speed network matures there will be an iPhone to work on that network. Many things come in to play here (battery life, real-world reliability and availability of the network, etc). All of which Apple seems to carefully weigh out before they release a new product and risk over-promising/over-reaching. From all I have read, the timing was not right for them to make the iPhone LTE version.
For myself I'll see what the pricing turns out to be and then I'll very likely wait for a dual CDMA/GSM phone that hopefully will allow simultaneous data/voice usage which this new Verizon iPhone does not currently allow.
Of course.
WiFi isn't ubiquitous (it certainly isn't in my car). A lot of people these days lock down their networks, more so than five years ago. And it's still difficult to find free wifi in many airports, on public transit, at the beach, etc. At home and work, wifi is no problem, but on the road, the availability of wifi is pretty dicey.
Am I the only one willing to pay the full price? I hate being locked into contracts and quite frankly if a new phone is unveiled in summer (dual CDMA/GSM or LTE) I would rather use an upgrade for that. Conversely if the iPhone 5 isn't anything special then I'm not missing anything and the cost of the phone will not seem too bad as I may have it for a very long time (until the LTE version comes out). Maybe I have just been waiting so long for the iPhone to come to Verizon the "it costs too much" section of my brain isn't working properly.
Wifi and Incoming Calls
If I'm using this as a wifi hub and an incoming call comes in, does anyone know if I drop my wifi (data) connection or is the incoming call blocked?
If I'm using this as a wifi hub and an incoming call comes in, does anyone know if I drop my wifi (data) connection or is the incoming call blocked?
How does that make any sense? Subsidized price + ETF = ~full price. So why would you pay the full price upfront, assuming you don't switch carriers, you would make a nice savings getting it subsidized.
That's true, but my experience with most of my iPhone owning friends is "Wow, I didn't know you could do that!". I think that the other side of that will be the Verizon IPhone users who say "I didn't know it COULDN'T do that!"
American cellular customers are far more accustomed to purchasing subsidized handsets and signing a contract.
That said, in their iPhone FAQ, Verizon states that they will allow customers to purchase the iPhone at full retail without signing a long-term contract. They have not revealed pricing.
Note that Americans can actually purchase an unsubsidized iPhone at an Apple Retail Store (they start at $599) but it is still carrier locked to AT&T.
I would imagine similar pricing from Verizon on unsubsidized iPhones.
Your friends probably ignore AT&T commercials and don't read owners manuals. I don't know how typical they are.
Like I said I hate being locked into contracts especially since I move a lot and sometimes my new home has awful reception for my current phone. My experience with both AT&T and Verizon contracts has been awful. I'm currently month-to-month on Verizon and have been eligible for upgrade for a couple years now. I'd rather have the freedom to just jump ship and sell the phone at any point without paying an ETF. Not to mention if an LTE phone is right around the corner I'm not going to want to wait for a new contract to terminate in order to get that but I really miss having an iPhone and want it now. I know it sounds ridiculous.
You always need to take what Kdarling, forum troll, says with a grain of salt. He left out the part where the reason CDMA was so expensive was because of the patents and qualcomm. Verizon and Sprint decided to buy into qualcomm's CDMA tech assuming others would eventually be forced to pay as well. Trues out other carriers weren't sucker and decided to make another form of CDMA that wasn't so expensive. Now Verizon & Sprint has the odd-man technology.
Let me rephrase that. You are essentially paying the ETF upfront by paying the full price. So how does that make any sense? Buying it subsidized and paying the ETF when you need to would result in the same outcome expect you would also have the possibly of letting the contract run it's natural course saving you hundreds in the process
This is nice to finally see this actually happen. Although I didn't think it would happen this year (until the recent rumors basically confirmed it), to think it never would was ridiculous.
I personally find it funny, and kind of ironic, that many of the bashers of Verizon iPhone nay-sayers, here on this forum, were also many of the ones who were POSITIVE that it would be an upgraded iPhone.
I never understood people's unwillingness to start/reinstate a two year provider contract. I know people that are unwilling to upgrade their phone because they don't want to reinstate. I personally don't get it. It's just a cell phone contract. You spent the last two years with a company, satisfied, why not re-sign? It makes no sense to me at all. Plus, there are ways around ETF's... trust me, I'd know.
I personally find it funny, and kind of ironic, that many of the bashers of Verizon iPhone nay-sayers, here on this forum, were also many of the ones who were POSITIVE that it would be an upgraded iPhone.
I never understood people's unwillingness to start/reinstate a two year provider contract. I know people that are unwilling to upgrade their phone because they don't want to reinstate. I personally don't get it. It's just a cell phone contract. You spent the last two years with a company, satisfied, why not re-sign? It makes no sense to me at all. Plus, there are ways around ETF's... trust me, I'd know.
People: if you are using a data connection and you get a call, the call does not automatically go to voice mail. The phone will say that you have a call coming through, and you are given a choice of answering or ignoring. Answering will suspend the data connection and allow you to take the call, and ignoring will do just that, ignore the call while you continue to use data.
ha! b glad you are not on a steve BALLmer win phone?
phantom stuff??
ps- the phone and NOT steve ballmer, he's so real/grizzly...............
AT&T sucks where I am. Simultaneous voice & data are useless to me when I can't get either.
VZW iPhone here I come!
VZW iPhone here I come!
It is funny how people talk junk about CDMA when they don't understand how long some of us Sprint/Verizon users have been on a 3G network.
My first 3G phone was a flip phone in 2006.
T-Mobile and some parts of AT&T STILL don't get full 3G service.
Yeah ultimately, their 3G service can be upgraded and more speed added, but at the same time Verizon and Sprint are both already pretty deep in their "4G" offerings and i've been enjoying 4G already for the past few months.
Decent downloads speeds...uploads could use some work...still faster than my home cable though.
My first 3G phone was a flip phone in 2006.
T-Mobile and some parts of AT&T STILL don't get full 3G service.
Yeah ultimately, their 3G service can be upgraded and more speed added, but at the same time Verizon and Sprint are both already pretty deep in their "4G" offerings and i've been enjoying 4G already for the past few months.
Decent downloads speeds...uploads could use some work...still faster than my home cable though.
you will get used to it! in maybe in time IT will change?!
enjoy another freedom of choice/alternative in the US of A!
at&t must be crapping their pants right now!
hehehe!
go girls go, hail from afrika!
(Ignorant, angry, and arrogant all in one post, amazing!)
Um. It's not a lie. CDMA uses a different range of frequencies than GSM. That means they need different antenna designs. Simple physics.
Read owners manuals? Are you serious? I've been in MIS/Tech support field for years and have many friends and family that I support and I could almost count on one hand the times when somebody actually cracked open a manual or looked at the help in a program.