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GPS on the iPhone doesnt use data...

i thought you needed internet/data to load google maps. i suppose if you had a tomtom or navigon app you may not need it. or who knows maybe there is some sort of map program pre loaded in the vzw iphone.

i did notice from the picture on the main page that the available capacity is 27.1 GB where as the at&t 32gb iphone has an available capacity of 29.1 GB.
 
Finally, what they all been waiting for, the drrrrooooollllliiiiinnnnnggggg is over but still a useless device as expected CDMA cannot be used at the same time for internet and voice what useless device!!!

Now the moment they've all been waiting for and finally people get educated with CDMA that it is and what it is, the device's internet and voice CANNOT BE USED AT THE SAME TIME.... and on top of that when you travel LEAVE YOUR IPHONE at home, nyak, nyak, nyak, nyak.... PATHETIC..., still people are proud with a pathetic device but then again PATHETIC, nyak, nyak nyak!
Well at least people in the AT&T network will be happy because the clog is finally over.

:D


Shouldn't you be in grammer school today?
 
FaceTime

Does anyone know if FaceTime will be able to work anywhere now? If you can create a mobile hotspot from your phone, why would you still need wifi for this feature?
 
So what do you all think about any potential changes AT&T will make?

I haven't heard anything about monthly plan pricing, but if Verizon's offerings are lower than AT&T's, will AT&T respond by lowering their prices, and/or increasing their data plan caps?

What about introducing mobile hotspot functionality for the iPhone 4 on AT&T? Currently, if I'm not mistaken, you can enable internet tethering with AT&T for an extra $20 a month and only via USB or Bluetooth. I'd love it if AT&T tried to save face and increased its offerings and lowered its prices.
 
Now that the iPhone is available on Verizon, my Droid X might as well be a piece of crap. :D

I guess one man's trash is anotehr person's treasure.

While i really do respect the simplicity and fluidness of the iPhone, i'm a customizing man at heart and just love the options provided by android from keyboard layout to completely different ROMS.

Both are great operating systems of course so its a win win for a lot more people. Hell, even AT&T is starting to get some top tier devices for android and they are still the only US carrier to have windows 7 phones.
 
Correcting myself: the mobile hotspot is good, but the lack of concurrent data/voice thing could actually hold me back a bit. It seems that if I have a laptop or ipad or whatever that is actively downloading data, and I answer a call, the wifi will stop streaming. I'm sure that this is not really a big deal if I'm only using the iPhone, since iOS has features that gracefully handle these triggers. But, if I have a non-iOS equipment, I could lose connectivity?

So, it may not be all it's cracked up to be. Will have to wait and see how AT&T counters. AT&T may win after all, if they follow suit with mobile WIFI.
 
OK, there seems to be a lot of confusion about how this voice/data thing will work. I'm hardly a definitive expert, but having had a Droid and then a Droid Incredible on VZW over the past year, I thought I'd lend my experiences:

Voice takes precedence over a call. It doesn't matter what you're doing. If I'm browsing the web, streaming music or video, downloading apps, or using data in any other way when I get a phone call, the data connection is dropped and the "incoming call screen" pops up. After I'm finished talking (or ignore the call), the phone automatically reconnects to the 3G network in a few seconds. If the webpage/app wasn't fully downloaded when the call came through, this usually means I have to reload.

No idea what's up with the guy whose friend got data and voice on a boat with no WiFi. Either the guy in the boat was only browsing cached webpages, or he was connected to wifi without realising it, or he was using a VOIP app to make the call, or he was toying around with his buddy. Or he's on T-Mobile and not Verizon. No current CDMA phone supports voice/data at the same time on Verizon.

Regular SMS (through the carrier) does not count as data, so you can still send/receive those during calls. Sending/receiving SMS does not disrupt your data connection in any way. I believe this is because SMS piggybacks over the phone's communications to the tower, so it only uses connections that are constant anyway.

I don't use MMS enough to know how they work, but I have read that a data connection is required to send/receive them. Seriously, though, it's 2010. Just email the pictures already.

Other SMS apps (like Google Voice and all those free texting apps) do count as data, so those will come through when you hang up.

Voicemail notifications do not count as data. If you ignore a call while on another call, you'll still get a voicemail notification. Checking your voicemail counts as voice if you dial in to check it. Not sure how it works with VZW Visual Voicemail.

Push notifications for email, package tracking, sports scores, etc. do count as data, and won't go through during a call. On Android, they all arrive almost immediately after you hang up. I have no idea how iOS's notification system will handle this.

Google Maps/Navigation use both data and GPS, and caches the map data for your entire route when you first start navigating. If you lose the data connection while driving, the GPS chip stays active and the navigation app uses the cached map data. If you stray from the planned route while on a call, it can usually get you back on track without a data connection as long as you didn't miss your exit by ten miles or something.

This means if you have a navigation app with its own map pack (like TomTom), this won't be a problem. Note that these apps are usually around 2 GB due to the size of the map package. If you have a navigation app that's about 3 MB, chances are that it uses the data connection to download map data on the fly.

If you're connected to a WiFi network, none of this applies. You still stay connected to the internet during phone calls. This doesn't help those of you who are salivating over the prospect of replacing your cable modem with tethering, but it should hopefully eliminate this concern for anyone who spends any amount of time around WiFi.

Also note that this has only been my experience with Android; any of this could be different on BB (except for SMS).

Regarding 1X: I almost never see 1X data, and I do a lot of traveling around the Midwest and East Coast. The only time I consistently see 1X for extended periods of time is in the basement of a building built in the 1930s, and nobody (on any carrier) can make or receive calls from there anyway.



No. Phone calls take precedence over data. Your functional experience (Pandora/Rhapsody pauses upon incoming call, resumes upon hangup) would be identical on a CDMA iPhone. Text messages always go through no matter what, unless you're using a third-party texting solution. See my post above.


This stopped being true about a year and a half ago. Unlimited data on Verizon is, at least for now, truly unlimited. They may take a close look at individual accounts that use absurd amounts of data (and we're talking like 20GB/mo here), but there is absolutely no automated response to high data usage, and nothing magic about the number 5 GB. None. Zip. Zilcho.

You might be thinking of T-Mobile, who does exactly what you describe.

OK, well like I said I have no experience with Verizon but I wouldn't assume that the iPhone will handle all of these scenarios exactly the same. We'll have to wait and see. Just not being able to use data while on a call is enough to keep me from even thinking about switching. It's probably true that most iPhone users don't even know that they can surf and check email while on a call. However, for the average person who frequents these forums, I would think that it would be a big issue.

Shouldn't you be in grammer school today?

Grammer? Is Kelsey running a school? :D
 
Does anyone know if FaceTime will be able to work anywhere now? If you can create a mobile hotspot from your phone, why would you still need wifi for this feature?

because you can't use the mobile hotspot while using the wifi on your pone....so how exactly would facetime work?
 
Not planning on switching back even though I am on the fence about Voice/Data at the same time on AT&T or Free WiFi Hotspot on VZ, however it will be interesting what they charge for a data package in all and if AT&T brings back unlimited Data.

It would be sweet if AT&T gives us Free WiFi Hotspot or charges like $5 per month bc I still have unlimited Data, and AT&T works really well for me, just not going to VZ unless AT&T doesn't make a move.

This. EXACTLY! (You see this AT$T?) :D
 
So what do you all think about any potential changes AT&T will make?

I haven't heard anything about monthly plan pricing, but if Verizon's offerings are lower than AT&T's, will AT&T respond by lowering their prices, and/or increasing their data plan caps?

What about introducing mobile hotspot functionality for the iPhone 4 on AT&T? Currently, if I'm not mistaken, you can enable internet tethering with AT&T for an extra $20 a month and only via USB or Bluetooth. I'd love it if AT&T tried to save face and increased its offerings and lowered its prices.

What would make me smile; AT&T iPhone4 can NOW Facetime over 3G and Data Plan costs have been decreased! Lower than All competitors!

Dreaming:rolleyes:
 
Correcting myself: the mobile hotspot is good, but the lack of concurrent data/voice thing could actually hold me back a bit. It seems that if I have a laptop or ipad or whatever that is actively downloading data, and I answer a call, the wifi will stop streaming. I'm sure that this is not really a big deal if I'm only using the iPhone, since iOS has features that gracefully handle these triggers. But, if I have a non-iOS equipment, I could lose connectivity?

So, it may not be all it's cracked up to be. Will have to wait and see how AT&T counters. AT&T may win after all, if they follow suit with mobile WIFI.

Have had a mobile hotspot for the last two years and i can tell you, unless you use your phone for business (which of course many do) those times are few and far in between. My voice calls are the least uesd aspect of my phone these days.
 
So what do you all think about any potential changes AT&T will make?

I haven't heard anything about monthly plan pricing, but if Verizon's offerings are lower than AT&T's, will AT&T respond by lowering their prices, and/or increasing their data plan caps?

What about introducing mobile hotspot functionality for the iPhone 4 on AT&T? Currently, if I'm not mistaken, you can enable internet tethering with AT&T for an extra $20 a month and only via USB or Bluetooth. I'd love it if AT&T tried to save face and increased its offerings and lowered its prices.

iPhone 3GS for $49. Ok not the cutting edge latest iPhone but heck $49 for an iPhone is hard to pass by for most people. Doubt there will be any changes as far as plans are concerned. At least not something right away. I am sure they will wait and see how well Verizon does in terms of their network and customer satisfaction before making any changes.
 
OK, well like I said I have no experience with Verizon but I wouldn't assume that the iPhone will handle all of these scenarios exactly the same. We'll have to wait and see. Just not being able to use data while on a call is enough to keep me from even thinking about switching. It's probably true that most iPhone users don't even know that they can surf and check email while on a call. However, for the average person who frequents these forums, I would think that it would be a big issue.
Actually, AT&T touted the simultaneous voice-data functionality in one of their ad campaigns, so my guess is that most iPhone users know about this.

Some people will value the functionality more than others. Verizon users simply will not have a choice.
 
Wow...you have revealed a lot about yourself.

I use it to look up maps, showtimes, etc while talking real time with my wife.

So, are you saying, given a choice, that you would not want concurrent voice/data?

Strange not to want a feature that would enhance your over experience.


If it was available to me, I am sure I would use it if the situation came up.
However, it is not and its not the end of the world.
Folks on here are carrying on like the iPhone on Verizon wont work at all, as if Apple made a bad decesion. The numbers will tell, very quickly.

Again, consumers want a choice..not just the same old network.
If you want an iPhone, and you want the data/voice together, you now have that choice. Before, it was forced on you. Its AT&T or nothing.
Now, if you want the service thats available to you, and you want the iPhone, you now have a choice.

AT&T users, if your happy with AT&T and like the services you get. Stay with it. If you are not happy, you can now have that same good phone on a different network. Hopefully more choices soon.

I currently use a droid, when I tether, I do get all my calls and texts. Never missed any of them.

And FWIW noexpectations, I have not revealed anything... thats at a different address.
 
I would wait for a while. To me this limitation is HUGE! The whole idea of a smartphone especially an iPhone is killed by this limitation.

Agreed.

While using data and talking on the phone is not something I do on daily basis, I think I would miss it. Just knowing that my phone had that limitation would be irksome.

In any case, waiting for the next gen iPhone seems like a good idea and it may be that AT&T's service will improve somewhat, when they start losing customers.
 
Again, consumers want a choice..not just the same old network.
If you want an iPhone, and you want the data/voice together, you now have that choice. Before, it was forced on you. Its AT&T or nothing.
Now, if you want the service thats available to you, and you want the iPhone, you now have a choice.

Exactly!

It's always been disturbing that Apple gave exclusivity to one carrier. Now that the AT&T monopoly is over, we can probably expect better service from AT&T and those of us who decide to stick with them, can always walk if things don't improve.

This is a win/win for the consumer!
 
Actually, AT&T touted the simultaneous voice-data functionality in one of their ad campaigns, so my guess is that most iPhone users know about this.

Some people will value the functionality more than others. Verizon users simply will not have a choice.

Unless around wifi.
 
As an iPhone owner on AT&T, the slower the 3G of verizon, lack of simultaneous voice data, and lack of sim card make this utterly interesting to me.

Great for people satisfied with Verizon, though.

I just don't think there should be any of this nonsense of "bye At&t, hello Verizon" when its an inferior product to what you own.

not withstanding the issues of service coverage in your local area.
 
I kinda like the ones that look like Frankenstein palm trees. :D

On I-95 in New York...we got this fun looking one.

faket21b.jpg
 
Have had a mobile hotspot for the last two years and i can tell you, unless you use your phone for business (which of course many do) those times are few and far in between. My voice calls are the least uesd aspect of my phone these days.

You're right. Same here. :D
 
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