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Et tu Brute?

Just cracks me up how Verizon's pricing is no better than AT&T's. But everyone just couldn't wait for angelic Verizon to get the iPhone, and "give it all away".

ha, ha

AT&T minutes are not the same as Verizon minutes.
 
ATT with MyWi is looking pretty good right now. $20 for tethering and you have a 2GB cap, even though your iPhone plan is "unlimited?" Give me a break.

For those ATT customers who downgraded from unlimited data instead of being grandfathered in (like me), you can get back in to it by following these directions

http://www.iphonedownloadblog.com/2010/10/02/how-to-iphone-back-att-unlimited-data-plan/

Probably a better chance to go into ATT today and get latest iPhone and when it comes to data, ask for unlimited or going to Verizon. Wonder how quick or not ATT is to not lose a sale? :rolleyes:
 
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Very simply, you need to be on a family plan. I'm on one with two other people and have unlimited text, unlimited data, 1400 min per month plus nights/weekends, free to other AT&T cells, and the "A-list" (unlimited calls to any ten designated numbers regardless of land/cell or carrier). Total cost to each of us (with a slight discount but after taxes and fees) is under $70.

So yeah, family plan.

Edit: as for the high cost in the US. Yeah it's bad. But we have a massive land area to cover. You can't compare France or Japan or whatever, which are smaller than some of our individual states. In an effort to covet the whole US, the people in denser population areas end up paying a lot more than they would if the carriers just covered those areas (not saying that's what they should do, but the cost can't be ignored).
 
If i have verizon FiOS, does that count as being a verizon customer in terms of pre-ordering if I have never had verizon wireless?
 
T-Mobile offers slight discounts for non-contract phones, which is similar to Sim-Only except there are very few phones that come unlocked in the U.S. None of the majors ones do, iPhone included. The only other Sim-Only network that you can use is an MVNO that runs off T-Mobile's network called Simple Mobile. $60 unlimited everything. Unfortunately, T-Mobile is pathetic and is only an option for those who live in cities. As far as AT&T goes, your pretty much out of luck as far as getting any discount. Sprint and Verizon are CDMA networks, so all of their phones are locked to them, and even though you technically can unlock CDMA phones, Sprint and Verizon will not activate each other's phones. Sprint has some great prepaid options, such as Virgin Mobile's $25 a month for 300 mins, Unlimited Texts and Web. But your locked to their phones, which currently tops out at an LG Optimus.

Can't you get a UK iPhone that completly unlocked, then get the prepay option in the US?
 
You get ripped off no matter if you are on AT&T or someone else. They all get your money in the end. I wish Americans didn't pay so much more than other countries.


You don't :cool:

In Germany the total costs of a iPhone 4 (32 GB) and a 24 month contract are 1,750 $ (incl. tax). That includes only 120 min. voice (incoming calls are free) and unlimited data.
 
To everyone complaining about no choice because America is greedy, etc:

You do have a choice and that choice is to not use the iPhone. It's a luxury item and one nobody needs (to say you need one for business you can get a Blackberry or Android for email for about $50 a month with unlimited everything). Only in America will people whine and complain about the price of a luxury item being too high. Vote with your wallet, and buy a flip phone on a prepaid plan.
 
Blimey, you pay a lot for your phone plans in the US. :eek:

Agreed! Who cares! Other than the fact that people have too much money to spend on all this data, hotspot and texting. $100 plus per person for a mobile phone.

Wow you Americans sure get ripped off.

Text messaging is so utterly ridiculous if you have a smartphone

I'm way cheap!
Currently via work discount we have 3 verizon cell phones for $89/month, 1400 minutes I believe, we never use them up. No data plan, no text plan.

Now, looking at getting my wife and I each a iPhone....lets see $30/months each, and if we want to teather a future iPad $20 more for 1, so now $80/month for more mobile communications...
but wait We'll need to add a text plan???? wtf???
Lived 48 years w/o texting, so now using smartphone email should suffice....
Still $169/month for communciations, add $130/month for cable/home internet, $300/month...wow
 
Don't worry. They more than make up for it with their ridiculously cheap gas and generally EVERYTHING else being cheaper than the UK as well. So funny to see all these Europeans come out of the woodwork to laugh at Americans for high prices.

Very true, especially in my state where we have no sales tax. 20% VAT? Yikes!:eek:
 
The real problem with the prices is that people still pay them, so why should AT&T change? Plus, these companies think that upgrading the infrastructure isn't cost-effective so America's left being a superpower w/ the infrastructure of a 3rd world country. Sometimes it seems like the providers rape us up our rears and then we thank them for the privilege.

But to be fair, the US is fairly big and there are places that sparsely populated so it would be expensive to upgrade the infrastructure. Plus, there are poorer communities that, while they may have a good sized population, can't afford to upgrade, and communities who can afford to pick up the slack don't want to, even if it means they get reimbursed in the long run.
 
Just out of curiosity, I did a quick check with Sprint, and T-Mobile on smart phone plan prices... they are all about the same. Minor differences in price, so, in the US, it really boils down to what you need and which carrier serves your area best.
 
I think it's ridiculous that it's $20 for unlimited text messaging. This should be something included. I'm not saying that Verizon is ripping off people anymore than anyone else...this is a blanket statement.
 
Choice is good.....

....but at these prices, no thanks. If I switch, I will lose my free weekend/evening minutes, rollover minutes, free wifi, and I end up paying more for data access (while getting less as far as speed and multitasking). I also travel a few times each year.....CDMA won't make that possible.
 
Let me see. I would lose:

1. My discount
2. My rollover minutes
3. Voice and data.
4. Network speed

All of this to switch to a company who has been fined multiple times by the FCC for billing practices. I'll pass thank you.
 
To everyone complaining about no choice because America is greedy, etc:

You do have a choice and that choice is to not use the iPhone. It's a luxury item and one nobody needs (to say you need one for business you can get a Blackberry or Android for email for about $50 a month with unlimited everything). Only in America will people whine and complain about the price of a luxury item being too high. Vote with your wallet, and buy a flip phone on a prepaid plan.

Can't you see the whole world is like that...not just America:rolleyes:
 
yeah after seeing this i think i'll go with AT&T iphone.
forget paying $30 for web i won't use
 
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Very simply, you need to be on a family plan. I'm on one with two other people and have unlimited text, unlimited data, 1400 min per month plus nights/weekends, free to other AT&T cells, and the "A-list" (unlimited calls to any ten designated numbers regardless of land/cell or carrier). Total cost to each of us (with a slight discount but after taxes and fees) is under $70.

So yeah, family plan.

Edit: as for the high cost in the US. Yeah it's bad. But we have a massive land area to cover. You can't compare France or Japan or whatever, which are smaller than some of our individual states. In an effort to covet the whole US, the people in denser population areas end up paying a lot more than they would if the carriers just covered those areas (not saying that's what they should do, but the cost can't be ignored).

Sounds like socialism. Down with that sort of thing.
 
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