Why not just use a tethering application like PDAnet to connect it to one device. I do this with my Droid Eris and i don't get charged any extra fees??????
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Verizon iPhone Wireless Hotspot to Cost an Additional $20/Month
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I guess no one ever bothered to go look at the Verzion web site before to see if they charged for using your cell phone as a hot spot?
What did you expect? None of these companies in the US give anything away until they have too. But, it will come I'm sure as pressure builds for them to be competitive.
What did you expect? None of these companies in the US give anything away until they have too. But, it will come I'm sure as pressure builds for them to be competitive.
No, on CDMA phones if someone calls you during a data transfer it goes automatically to voicemail.
According to kdarling that is not the case and you loose data transmission and call comes through. So bye-bye download.
Wireless companies don't understand the word free.
Theres a simple solution to this $20 2GB tethering unlimited data madness. Jailbreak.
Dear Verizon,
Here is your chance to steal back millions of AT&T customers (who have left you since 2007). So far, I am not impressed. All you need to do is to offer the same service at a cheaper price (the same price for a slower network and for no concurrent voice/data won't convince me to come back). Every marketing announcement, thus far, has been about higher prices.
Here is your chance to steal back millions of AT&T customers (who have left you since 2007). So far, I am not impressed. All you need to do is to offer the same service at a cheaper price (the same price for a slower network and for no concurrent voice/data won't convince me to come back). Every marketing announcement, thus far, has been about higher prices.
Technically it's not. They should pay too.
But with everything.... if there's a way around it, someone will do it and they have. Just like someone will on the iPhones too.
This is correct, AFAIK. At least it's how my Verizon Droid 2 works. Verizon's network (and I think CDMA in general) prioritize voice calls over data, so that when you are using data (browsing the web, downloading a game, tethering), and a call comes in, the data is suspended and the call comes through.
You would think because they use the inferior CDMA network they would counter that will a better pricing strategy
If I was't locked into Verizon, id jump ship in a heartbeat to ATT.So, if I am in the middle of a 250MB download (say for a game App), and a call comes in, I have to begin from scratch and use up another 250MB on my data plan? Crap.
So I'm guessing there's some routing changes going on when you tether? Otherwise how does Verizon know what bytes you used when tethering and what bytes from the phone?
I wonder if this accounting is done on the phone itself which would theoretically make it possible to hack it.
It'll be interesting to tear this apart when the phone comes out.
I wonder if this accounting is done on the phone itself which would theoretically make it possible to hack it.
It'll be interesting to tear this apart when the phone comes out.
Either way it doesn't matter to me...
With my Droid Inc all I had to do was, enter a special menu, put in the default password of six zeros, enter a specific menu, scroll down, and change one little web address. Exit said menu, and bam, free hot spot enabled.
I will say this though, after all the trouble it turned out not to be worth using unless that was my only way to get internet on my laptop when out and about.
With my Droid Inc all I had to do was, enter a special menu, put in the default password of six zeros, enter a specific menu, scroll down, and change one little web address. Exit said menu, and bam, free hot spot enabled.
I will say this though, after all the trouble it turned out not to be worth using unless that was my only way to get internet on my laptop when out and about.
I imagine that if you just reject the call, it will go to voicemail and the data will pick up where it left off.
FAIL. Didn't FEE-rise-zon said it's going to be "included"?
No it's not for most users. Only for the small number of people who jailbreak.
No it's not for most users. Only for the small number of people who jailbreak.
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Didn't go through the whole thread but I have Verizon and a blackberry the unlimited plan is unlimited but tethering is not and I know it can distinguish because I've seen it on my bill and pay attention to my data. Plus I've talked to people candidly about it. I didn't expect it to be free because it's not free in my blackberry. But what is weird is I pay $30 a month and it's 5gb and I've gone slightly over that before and not charged extra. So not sure why the iphone has a different plan.
Didn't go through the whole thread but I have Verizon and a blackberry the unlimited plan is unlimited but tethering is not and I know it can distinguish because I've seen it on my bill and pay attention to my data. Plus I've talked to people candidly about it. I didn't expect it to be free because it's not free in my blackberry. But what is weird is I pay $30 a month and it's 5gb and I've gone slightly over that before and not charged extra. So not sure why the iphone has a different plan.
Okay... forgive my stupidity... but what the heck is the big deal about using a hot spot on your smart phone anyway?
Even for someone who's traveled a lot. Been on the run, I can't see what being able to whip out my cell phone and let up to 5 other users link into a pathetic 3G connection anyway? And if I'm not traveling, I'm at home where I have high-speed internet all over anyway?
Other than being a novelty... is there really a practical application to this? I guess if everyone wants to wipe out their laptop around the camp fire and check email, that might be fun for about 2 seconds???
Even for someone who's traveled a lot. Been on the run, I can't see what being able to whip out my cell phone and let up to 5 other users link into a pathetic 3G connection anyway? And if I'm not traveling, I'm at home where I have high-speed internet all over anyway?
Other than being a novelty... is there really a practical application to this? I guess if everyone wants to wipe out their laptop around the camp fire and check email, that might be fun for about 2 seconds???
So I'm guessing there's some routing changes going on when you tether? Otherwise how does Verizon know what bytes you used when tethering and what bytes from the phone?
I wonder if this accounting is done on the phone itself which would theoretically make it possible to hack it.
It'll be interesting to tear this apart when the phone comes out.
That's my thoughts as well. If the "phone" data is truly unlimited, yet the "hot spot" data is capped, then there has to be either a different APN used for the hot spot data, or the hot spot app sends additional info letting the network know that data coming through while it's on is supposed to be metered. This seems like something that could be easily remedied with a jailbreak...provided this device can even be jailbroken. There's nothing saying Apple hasn't totally changed the bootrom, meaning the jailbreakers will have yet another challenge.
Well then I'm sure AT&T will just add this as part of their tethering plan since the price will be about the same.
So when 4.3 is released we will be back to everything being the same.
AT&T is faster but less reliable.
Verizon is slower but more reliable.
In the end they both don't give anything away for free. Why did anyone think this would be free in the first place?
Really nothing surprising here.
So when 4.3 is released we will be back to everything being the same.
AT&T is faster but less reliable.
Verizon is slower but more reliable.
In the end they both don't give anything away for free. Why did anyone think this would be free in the first place?
Really nothing surprising here.
Data is not free. When someone uses a hotspot, their data usage is almost always going to go up. More data going over the network requires cell tower upgrades, trunk upgrades, and other costs. These things cost money, both in equipment and in people's time to plan.
The fact that consumers think things come "free" is just ignorance. It's worse in the U.S.-type model where everything is subsidized with other things. Phones come cheap because you're essentially paying more for service over two years. They make data cheaper than cost to get customers, then make a profit on texting plans and voice plans. It's all a big mess that shields consumers from making informed.
Of course, sometimes it comes back to get them when people start thinking that unlimited data really costs just $30/month.
The fact that consumers think things come "free" is just ignorance. It's worse in the U.S.-type model where everything is subsidized with other things. Phones come cheap because you're essentially paying more for service over two years. They make data cheaper than cost to get customers, then make a profit on texting plans and voice plans. It's all a big mess that shields consumers from making informed.
Of course, sometimes it comes back to get them when people start thinking that unlimited data really costs just $30/month.