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Verizon iPhone Wireless Hotspot to Cost an Additional $20/Month

MacAddict1978 said:
This isn't tethering though. Tethering is you using your connection on another device, not simultaneously sharing a connection with other people.
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If I tether my iphone to my computer, and set up an adhoc network, tethering alloows me to share that connection with other people. Hotspot will allow me to do the same thing, with less steps.

Unlocked iPhone with a choice of three networks, sometimes living outside of the US has advantages
 
WiFi beats BT tethering in my view, but given the pricing... I’ll stick with AT&T* where phone calls don’t interrupt my 3G Internet!

Interesting choice of how to handle the PR on this... raise hopes, then dash them :p Clever.

(* Despite AT&T customer service and support being run by the Beast himself.)
 
jav6454 said:
According to kdarling that is not the case and you loose data transmission and call comes through. So bye-bye download.
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Pre-EVDO, the call would go straight to voicemail if the data line was active. Otherwise, the call would get through if you had an idle connection (say, a pipe open for push E-mail).

Post-EVDO, the notification of an incoming call will still reach the phone. If you choose to pick it up, your data session is suspended until the call completes. How this interacts with the mobile hotspot is something I've not yet seen. Depending on the length of the call, everything might just resume. IPv4/IPv6 is actually pretty robust at handling a hiccup in the line. But if the apps are written poorly, they could throw a fit on this, certainly. No new connection will succeed while the call is being taken either.

(Coming from a GSM user)
 
PeterQVenkman said:
They all charge ridiculous amounts. So far only one lets you make actual phone calls.
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yeah the one on AT&T is the only one that makes calls, because it's the only one customers can actually have today...and stop buying into the "AT&T has no coverage" propoganda...it's a marketing lie created by competitors
 
dwsolberg said:
Data is not free. When someone uses a hotspot, their data usage is almost always going to go up. More data going over the network requires cell tower upgrades, trunk upgrades, and other costs. These things cost money, both in equipment and in people's time to plan.
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Say I have 2gb of data available each month.

What additional costs does the network supplier have if I use said 2gb/month with the phone, or via a hotspot on the phone?
 
Ha.

Ha.

Ha.

I can't believe people actually thought this was going to magically be free. Why on earth would Verizon give it away when they know so many people want it? Not announcing pricing at the same time they announced the phone was just Marketing 101 for the smartphone era.
 
Well what'd know!

That damn AT& errr..... Verizon. They suck. They're only in it to make money!
 
greenythebeast said:
People expected this to be free? :rolleyes:
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Anyone that gets upset over this additional charge, I just give them a big "DUH!" This is cheaper than AT&T's tethering options and you get more devices connected to it.

There are some in this crowd I swear want all their Apple products for free so they can bitch about the products they can't afford. But then if they could afford it, they would be as bitchy.
 
I want a $10/mo data plan for a very small amount of data, so I can afford to get the phone. I won't surf the web or check email unless I am in a wifi zone, don't plan to tether. I just want it to talk on, take pics, have ITunes, Facetime and such.
 
Stop comparing Verizon's offerings with a grandfathered AT&T unlimited data plan and MyWi. That's not what's currently available. Compare it to AT&T's current plan for data and tethering. You'll pay VZW $5 more, but you'll get one hell of a lot more mileage out of Verizon's.
 
dwsolberg said:
The fact that consumers think things come "free" is just ignorance. It's worse in the U.S.-type model where everything is subsidized with other things. Phones come cheap because you're essentially paying more for service over two years. .
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well i paid 1 $ for the iPhone 4 here with unlimited data and free tethering ;) so much for the "subsidized point"


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and omg a provider that cant offer calls and internet at the same time, i couldnt imagine that working here... fail i'd rather take dropped calls once in a while (which i never experienced)
 
CFreymarc said:
Anyone that gets upset over this additional charge, I just give them a big "DUH!" This is cheaper than AT&T's tethering options and you get more devices connected to it.

There are some in this crowd I swear want all their Apple products for free so they can bitch about the products they can't afford. But then if they could afford it, they would be as bitchy.
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Tell them to move to a better country
 
dwsolberg said:
Of course, sometimes it comes back to get them when people start thinking that unlimited data really costs just $30/month.
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Yeah. It's a bit surprising how few people understand the "buffet" business model. Some people are basically being overcharged, some undercharged for their service. The carrier in this case, by offering an unlimited plan, is banking that the revenue = all data costs over all users + X% margin.

When all your users start using more data, your costs go up across the board, and suddenly that "Unlimited" plan is losing you money unless you raise prices or go to tiered billing.
 
If the data really is unlimited then this is totally reasonable.

I complained about at&t's tethering charge because it's on top of a capped 2 GB plan. That's not the case with Verizon.
 
I love how this is "news"... Verizon has been charging for mobile hotspot ever since phones supported it on Verizon's network, nothing new...and this AT&T/Verizon crap is getting old really fast, half of the forum is all AT&T fanboy because thats where the iPhone was. GET OVER YOURSELF SERIOUSLY. Stop trying to force AT&T on people that don't want it, if it doesn't have service where they live then it doesn't have service. If they don't want it, they don't want it. Neither network is better than the other. Just like GM and Ford, both make decent cars.

If you like AT&T then **** and keep it to yourself, if you like Verizon same thing. This is a forum about Apple, not AT&T or Verizon.

FYI according to the AT&T sales rep, no phone currently supports Mobile Hotspot...The data plan they sell for the iPhone w/tethering cost $45 and is capped at 2gb, without tethering is $25 a month with a 2gb cap before you pay another $10 per GB. Verizon has multiple phones that support Mobile Hotspot, $30 data plan with a $20 Hotspot plan. The data plan is unlimited. Call me crazy but I don't see how AT&T has cheap plans, $25 for 2gb? You might save on minutes but at least Verizon CURRENTLY has a $30 unlimited plan.
 

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Jailbreaking right now. If Verizon is doing this, AT&T wil either price it the same or a bit cheaper. Highly unlikely AT&T will do this for free
 
chris975d said:
This is what I just addressed above...it leads me to believe that there's going to be a cap on their "unlimited" data. As the phone probably isn't going to distinguish "phone" data from "tethered" (i.e. Hot Spot) data, the only way to keep people from using truly unlimited data to tether anyway is to cap it...unless the Hot Spot app/setting (whatever it is) connects to the network through a different APN that they can monitor.
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They will probably do what AT&T did: if you want tethering, you have to sign up for the limited data plan. I guess unlike AT&T they'll actually give you 2 extra gigs of data. It's still bullshiit though. Jailbreak seems like the only way to go if you want to actually use tethering and not worry about overages.
 
Blorzoga said:
They will probably do what AT&T did: if you want tethering, you have to sign up for the limited data plan. I guess unlike AT&T they'll actually give you 2 extra gigs of data. It's still bullshiit though. Jailbreak seems like the only way to go if you want to actually use tethering and not worry about overages.
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Everyone using mobile tethering "without worrying about overages" is not tenable.

It just isn't, even if you really really want it to be.
 
tjb1 said:
I love how this is "news"... Verizon has been charging for mobile hotspot ever since phones supported it on Verizon's network, nothing new...and this AT&T/Verizon crap is getting old really fast, half of the forum is all AT&T fanboy because thats where the iPhone was. GET OVER YOURSELF SERIOUSLY. Stop trying to force AT&T on people that don't want it, if it doesn't have service where they live then it doesn't have service. If they don't want it, they don't want it. Neither network is better than the other. Just like GM and Ford, both make decent cars.

If you like AT&T then **** and keep it to yourself, if you like Verizon same thing. This is a forum about Apple, not AT&T or Verizon.

FYI according to the AT&T sales rep, no phone currently supports Mobile Hotspot...The data plan they sell for the iPhone w/tethering cost $45 and is capped at 2gb, without tethering is $25 a month with a 2gb cap before you pay another $10 per GB. Verizon has multiple phones that support Mobile Hotspot, $30 data plan with a $20 Hotspot plan. The data plan is unlimited. Call me crazy but I don't see how AT&T has cheap plans, $25 for 2gb? You might save on minutes but at least Verizon CURRENTLY has a $30 unlimited plan.
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The original post states that verizon tethering will be capped at 2 gigs so how is that better than AT&T 's offering?
 
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