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I don't know how people are finding this to be reasonable!

In fact, it's so stupid it's making me laugh :)

I've been WAITING for all these news stories to come out and people start complaining about Verizon :-D

There it is then...
 
Where are all of those AT&T haters that said the iPhone would be so much better on Verizon's network?!? LOL!

Verizon's voice calls may be better, but I don't think it is that much better. I rarely get dropped calls now and would rather have a few drop calls here and there than to have a slow data network.

Is it still not possible on Verizon's network to have simultaneous calls and data becasue of CDMA?

No, you can't to voice/data because Apple chose not to put the chip into the phone. CDMA is capable, but it's dependent on the device makers to utilize the right gear.
 
Why 2 months? Sounds unreasonable. But the overarching concept appears valid.

My guess is that it's not a very sophisiticated sytem.

The billing system identifies the top 5% of data users (or really the true data hogs, which may mean 1%). It then flags their account for possible throttling, which it implements after a few days and it continues through the next billing cycle. If it were only the same billing cycle it might mean for only a few days.

Certainly there could be better, more dynamic systems that would identify "extreme" use over, say, a 24 hour period, at which point the person got throttled for the next 24-48 hours, but VZW probably doesn't have that much sophistication on their billing systems.
 
I'm not surprised when some people are going over 90GB a month!.

When caps were first discussed, I assumed that AT&T and others would be putting it caps to stop THOSE types who 24/7 download/upload and are getting around 90gb's+ on their phones

Then we are told 2gb and I am sitting back laughing at how AT&T and others try and pass off people using 2gb+ as "abusers"
 
Where are all of those AT&T haters that said the iPhone would be so much better on Verizon's network?!? LOL!

Verizon's voice calls may be better, but I don't think it is that much better. I rarely get dropped calls now and would rather have a few drop calls here and there than to have a slow data network.

Is it still not possible on Verizon's network to have simultaneous calls and data becasue of CDMA?

Screw at&t and Verizon. I am waiting for the Sprint iPhone :D. I am sure Sprint will be awesome!! No dropped calls! Blazing fast data! Voice and data at the same time!! Unlimited data with no throttling or compression!!! AND 100% coverage!!!! Yippeee!!!!!!

Almost forgot about unlimited tethering and all for less than $30 a month
 
This is what ATT should have done a long time ago. I remember reading in a thread about people jailbraking their phone so they could tether their laptop for unlimited mobile data. They said they had unlimited data and ATT had no right to tell them they couldn't use it. The problem is they had unlimited data for their phone only and were cheating the system.

Now ATT has these stupid tiers that punish everyone for a small amount of selfish people.

I would rather see ATT offer an unlimited plan, along with optional, cheaper tiers, and throttle those that abuse the data. I kept my unlimited when I bought the iPhone 4 just in case I needed it later. I don't know how long ATT will let me keep it, though.
 
The doc also says that they may throttle it periodically. It's possible they could do something similar to what cable companies do allowing an initial burst of speed before throttling a data stream. Allows normal web browsing traffic at full speed, doesn't affect small downloads, but only really affects large downloads.
 
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Slow ass data network, no talk and surf, and now they will make their slow ass network even slower for some ppl... And these fanboys were praising verizon and how great it would be once they got the iPhone. Lol ya enjoy...
 
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Slow ass data network, no talk and surf, and now they will make their slow ass network even slower for some ppl... And these fanboys were praising verizon and how great it would be once they got the iPhone. Lol ya enjoy...

Couldn't agree with you any more!!!
 
The doc also says that they may throttle it periodically. It's possible they could do something similar to what cable companies do allowing an initial burst of speed before throttling a data stream. Allows normal web browsing traffic at full speed, doesn't affect small downloads, but only really affects large downloads.

OR it could be the case when people complain that their data download is slow, Verizon can say "Oh! that's because you are being throttled!. Not a problem with our network. We told you we would throttle periodically. Didn't we?"

I actually like that tag line - "Relax! you are being throttled" LOL!! :D
 
I love the dance these two carriers do. On one hand, VZW and ATT will constantly match (but not ever surpass) each other's positive features, while on the other hand, watching to see what the other can get away with in taking things away, then match that as well.
 
Seems like a good idea from a logical, effecient perspective, but this is going to piss off subscribers whether it actually affects them or not.

No, it will only piss off five percent of the subscribers, and it's the five percent of the subscribers that Verizon would prefer to buy an AT&T iPhone. And vice versa. For 95% of the users, this is good news.


When caps were first discussed, I assumed that AT&T and others would be putting it caps to stop THOSE types who 24/7 download/upload and are getting around 90gb's+ on their phones

Then we are told 2gb and I am sitting back laughing at how AT&T and others try and pass off people using 2gb+ as "abusers"

And one day they will explain the difference between GB with a capital 'B' (Gigabyte) and Gb with a lowercase 'b' (Gigabit) and tell you that you only get two Gb instead of two GB.
 
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Slow ass data network, no talk and surf, and now they will make their slow ass network even slower for some ppl... And these fanboys were praising verizon and how great it would be once they got the iPhone. Lol ya enjoy...

Exactly. How is Verizon any better? I'm beginning to think that the only Verizon defenders on this forum are their employees who have missed out on the iPhone for almost 4 years now.
 
I love the dance these two carriers do. On one hand, VZW and ATT will constantly match (but not ever surpass) each other's positive features, while on the other hand, watching to see what the other can get away with in taking things away, then match that as well.

Welcome to corporate America!!
 
Screw at&t and Verizon. I am waiting for the Sprint iPhone :D. I am sure Sprint will be awesome!! No dropped calls! Blazing fast data! Voice and data at the same time!! Unlimited data with no throttling or compression!!! AND 100% coverage!!!! Yippeee!!!!!!

Almost forgot about unlimited tethering and all for less than $30 a month

I'd like to see T-Mobile get in the mix with their cheap data plans, but their coverage is as good as crap.
 
The problem is that they market their service as unlimited, when in fact it is very much limited. It was limited by available technology (and available content) at first, but now that it's possible to use 90gb a month all of sudden the telecomms are saying, well we didn't really mean unlimited when we said unlimited data.

Just be upfront about it and use progressive pricing instead of some half-assed scheme that doesn't do anything for the consumer except continue to liberate cash from their wallets.
 
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Slow ass data network, no talk and surf, and now they will make their slow ass network even slower for some ppl... And these fanboys were praising verizon and how great it would be once they got the iPhone. Lol ya enjoy...

"slow ass data network" vs. 1/5 the amount of 3G coverage while using AT&T

"no talk and surf" vs. ~3X as many dropped calls and voice less coverage while on AT&T
 
And iPhone users are typically in the top 5% of data users... same $#!+, different company.

I think if your read about data usages, you wil find the facts bear out that Andorid users on average use more data, not iPhones. iPhones use more data on AT&T, but not as a general rule.
 
Many people have circumvented this with rooted android phones by modifying the radio to ignore throttle requests. I assume something may be similar with jailbreaking.

No, they haven't.

This throttling is done entirely on the network side, there's nothing an individual user can do to circumvent it.
 
No, it will only piss off five percent of the subscribers, and it's the five percent of the subscribers that Verizon would prefer to buy an AT&T iPhone. And vice versa. For 95% of the users, this is good news.




And one day they will explain the difference between GB with a capital 'B' (Gigabyte) and Gb with a lowercase 'b' (Gigabit) and tell you that you only get two Gb instead of two GB.

You are forgetting the part where when the top 5% get pissed off and leave the ones who were in the 90-95% now become the top 5% and so on.... :D
 
If they throttle the top 5% of users for two months, though, aren't they going to wind-up throttling the top 10% of users?

And then if all of those users "reform", won't they wind-up throttling the NEXT 10% of users?

And...
 
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