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I think if your read about data usages, you wil find the facts bear out that Andorid users on average use more data, not iPhones. iPhones use more data on AT&T, but not as a general rule.

LOL!! that's because there are no iPhones on Verizon!!! :D
 
A) I don't trust any company where their priority number 1 is their profits. They don't give a ***** about me as long as I keep paying my monthly bill.

lol.

You're obviously on some government welfare dole and don't understand how free markets work. (Or why people like you and I invest in these free markets).

What entitles you to certain phone rights with Verizon? Don't like it? Go to another phone carrier. Oh wait... they don't offer iPhones. Guess you should blame Apple, not Verizon.

Telecommunications companies operate by leasing a "natural resource," radio waves, from the people.

Natural? So radio waves are just floating around waiting to be grabbed up? Again, LOL!

But because Verizon is a for-profit company, they're going to open their logs and show who they're throttling or what data they're throttling/compressing. You have to take their word for it. No thanks.
One class-action suit will open up their books and they know it. They aren't stupid.
 
So, Verizon will punish you without any other warning.....they will throttle your connection when they think it is time....nice.

Maybe I should get 2 Verizon iPhones....one for voice, one for data, and both to ensure a respectable data access speed. :)
 
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If they throttle the top 5% of users for two months, though, aren't they going to wind-up throttling the top 10% of users?

And then if all of those users "reform", won't they wind-up throttling the NEXT 10% of users?

And...

Yup!! until you are all trained to behave!!! And you learn not to be greedy and learn how to share :D
 
I think it's awesome how Verizon says they have the network issue that AT&T has "covered." All they're doing is limited people's bandwidth. Also, I read that Verizon will not allow multitasking on the network. So you can't check your email, surf the internet, or text while you're on the phone. I'd rather have the "lack of service" and have more features.

misinformed
 
This is something AT&T should of done. T-Mobile does it and it works great. Once you cross 5gig of data they throattle you.
Top 5% someone else posted in another thread is something like 30gig+ people. Sorry those people are abusing the system. Hell if you cross 5 gigs in a month you are abusing the system.

I stream video from my home PC (at iPhone 3GS quality, though I'm on a 4), remote in to my PCs to adjust server settings, do a lot of web surfing, etc. I also stream music a lot, usually over Pandora. I usually am in the 1.5 - 3 GB range (granted, I end up on being on a WiFi network about half the time, and sometimes am using my iPad with unlimited data instead of my iPhone). I don't consider this abusive usage. I simply use a lot of data.

I don't believe the top 5% is 30 gig+ people. I don't think one in twenty people use that much data. I've never met anyone that uses that much data; they'd have to jailbreak their phone and set it up as a web or bittorrent server or something. I'm sure some people do it, but not 5% of users.

I'm fairly sure people who stream all of their video and audio like me and land in the 1.5 to 3 GB range would be classified as heavy users/top 5% under this setup.
 
Yup!! until you are all trained to behave!!! And you learn not to be greedy and learn how to share :D

Data caps stifle innovation. We can't move services in to the cloud if people are worried to use the data. I've moved all of my video and music usage off of the phone... (Air Video <3)...this is the future.
 
This is a lot of fun!

I have to admit I haven't had this much laugh and fun on these forums in a long time he he!! :D

The days following Feb 10th will be interesting. Can't wait!! They should start charging for reading the posts here. Good entertainment value!
 
To me, throttling isn't a big deal, but make it clear and give people options.

Unlimited Data Plans :
1 MB/s, $10/month
4 MB/s, $40/month
Max MB/s, $80/month

4GB Data Plans
1 MB/s, $5/month
4 MB/s, $30/month
Max, $60/month

(Just making numbers up, but something along those lines and let people chose what is best for them. Those who want Unlimited/Max will have to pay for it)
 
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Slow ass data network, no talk and surf, and now they will make their slow ass network even slower for some ppl... And these fanboys were praising verizon and how great it would be once they got the iPhone. Lol ya enjoy...

I am glad tha verizon customers will finally have the chance to own an iphone. It is so much nicer than that Droid junk they have been using. That being said, I would not switch to Verizon if they were the last carrier on Earth.
 
I stream video from my home PC (at iPhone 3GS quality, though I'm on a 4), remote in to my PCs to adjust server settings, do a lot of web surfing, etc. I also stream music a lot, usually over Pandora. I usually am in the 1.5 - 3 GB range (granted, I end up on being on a WiFi network about half the time, and sometimes am using my iPad with unlimited data instead of my iPhone). I don't consider this abusive usage. I simply use a lot of data.

I don't believe the top 5% is 30 gig+ people. I don't think one in twenty people use that much data. I've never met anyone that uses that much data; they'd have to jailbreak their phone and set it up as a web or bittorrent server or something. I'm sure some people do it, but not 5% of users.

I'm fairly sure people who stream all of their video and audio like me and land in the 1.5 to 3 GB range would be classified as heavy users/top 5% under this setup.


But even you yourself said you are not crossing 5 gigs of wireless data. If you cross 5 gigs of data over the cellarer network you are on the abuser side. Wifi to me does not count against that abuse.
 
To me, throttling isn't a big deal, but make it clear and give people options.

Unlimited Data Plans :
1 MB/s, $10/month
4 MB/s, $40/month
Max MB/s, $80/month

4GB Data Plans
1 MB/s, $5/month
4 MB/s, $30/month
Max, $60/month

(Just making numbers up, but something along those lines and let people chose what is best for them. Those who want Unlimited/Max will have to pay for it)

This is exactly why at&t got rid of the unlimited plan and went to tiers. They learnt their lesson. Verizon is playing the game. "Unlimited" wink wink ;-) isn't exactly unlimited.
 
And as expected, the other foot (or in this case, feet) is (are) starting to drop.
All hail the mighty, can do no wrong, Verizon: savior of the iPhone. :rolleyes:

AT&T has to be fairly happy to have some of the flack they've taken for 4.5 years offloaded to the nations most over hyped network. While there will be loss, I predict they will not lose nearly as many customers as the media/blogs/forum posters would like to portray. I know I'm not going anywhere.
 
And as expected, the other foot (or in this case, feet) is (are) starting to drop.
All hail the mighty, can do no wrong, Verizon: savior of the iPhone. :rolleyes:

AT&T has to be fairly happy to have some of the flack they've taken for 4.5 years offloaded to the nations most over hyped network. While there will be loss, I predict they will not lose nearly as many customers as the media/blogs/forum posters would like to portray. I know I'm not going anywhere.

I can't wait for the at&t TV commericals to come out taking pot shots at Verizon. :p
 
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Personally, I'm more annoyed with the idea that Verizon is going to (re)compress content. I want my content in its originially intended state.
 
Ummm, no. Android users use more data than iPhone users.

So this could impact them more.

But someone brought up a good point. It says they "MAY" throttle. Doesn't mean they "WILL". And if you're in that top 5% then you're using way more resources than the other 95% and should be throttled any ways. It's not like there's unlimited spectrum and VZW has a network reputation to defend.

Uhhh, no. I said iPhone users are typically IN the top 5% of data users... I didn't say they used more or less data than Android users.

Regardless, it is no coincidence that they are announcing this just as they're about to launch the iPhone w/ WAP tethering capability.

I certainly can't blame them for proactively trying to avoid the problems that plagued AT&T rather than just relying on the myth that has been propagated over the last few years that their network could easily have handled the iPhone's data traffic.
 
A good step

If that means the service quality improves, I wish AT&T would do the same for top 5% of data users. Hopefully that would mean better connection/call quality. As it is, the service is very bad. Too many people using it for the capacity? They have to do something to fix that.
 
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Personally, I'm more annoyed with the idea that Verizon is going to (re)compress content. I want my content in its originially intended state.

I agree. I think the throttling issue may not be such a big deal. The compression is going to affect everyone across the board and that is a bigger problem in my opinion. I upload images and video to MobileMe, Flickr etc. from my iPhone to share or backup. I would hate for them to be compressed by the carrier. Perhaps they only compress images and videos going from one cellular customer to another in which case the compression may not be apparent on the small screen?
 
fine by me. as an analogy the bittorrent users on the home networks that consume data 24/7 at top speed, they are the ones that ought to be charged more. dont make the rest of the freaking network suffer because of it.
 
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