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Verizon's 4G Network to Launch Next Week, No Handsets Until Mid-2011
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Those are pretty sad sppeds considering it's LTE, that's what I've been getting on my 3G USB dongle for a while. 30-50 Mbit/s should be the minimum for 4G, unless all you're loking to gain over 3G is latency.
I do wonder if they're just throttling everyone to a max of, say, 12 down and 5 up. This would prevent the eventual disappointment as users load the network...
It's not 4G
Seriously, LTE is not 4G, WiMax is not 4G, NO ONE has 4G yet. It's all marketing hype.
Seriously, LTE is not 4G, WiMax is not 4G, NO ONE has 4G yet. It's all marketing hype.
4G or not to 4G
Yes, the EVO phone is on Sprint's network, advertised as a 4G-capable phone.
"4G" is being used a catch-all term to represent not-3G, but faster. Sprint and CLEAR make use of WiMAX, the competing 4G network to LTE. Even T-Mobile is trying to advertise its HPSA+ as 4G now, even though all of these technologies might be better described as 3.5G -- that just doesn't sound nearly as smooth as 4G, though.
Ironically, the ad below this post was for CLEAR's 4G service.
Yes, the EVO phone is on Sprint's network, advertised as a 4G-capable phone.
"4G" is being used a catch-all term to represent not-3G, but faster. Sprint and CLEAR make use of WiMAX, the competing 4G network to LTE. Even T-Mobile is trying to advertise its HPSA+ as 4G now, even though all of these technologies might be better described as 3.5G -- that just doesn't sound nearly as smooth as 4G, though.
Ironically, the ad below this post was for CLEAR's 4G service.
I wana see all the carriers get sued the hell out of them. The only carrier that cant is AT&T because they didn't call it 4g (yet) they will tho.
Not totally true.
These are widely accepted as the fourth generation of cellular network designs:
1) Analog - first generation (AMPS, NAMPS and others)
2) First Digital era - Second Generation (GSM, PDC, USDC, CDMA) aka 2G
3) Second Digital era - Third Generation (EVDO, UMTS) aka 3G
4) Third Digital era - Fourth Generation (WiMax, LTE) aka 4G
That is, each of these networks internally and externally is very different from the one before.
Why the ITU had to step in front of the "4G" marketing freight train, I'll never know. They didn't make things clearer in any way.
Although they don't get a lot of discussion here, I love what T-Mobile did recently. Without making any real changes to their network, they came out and proclaimed their entire network is now 4G. Not even using LTE or Wi-MAX which MAY one day be part of the future 4G standard. Just the same 3G network on Sunday magically became 4G on Monday.
Well, they DID make changes to their network, they went to a higher tier of HSPA+. I don't recall what speed they've gone to, but yes they did make real changes to their network.
I wouldn't call it 4G though, agreed there.
Stop defending either AT&T and Verizon. They both exaggerate about their coverage. So does Sprint and T-Mobile.
AT&T will take top dog. Verizon has no other company they can buy out to claim they've expanded their coverage map. Spring is dying. T-Mobile is always fast in Bellevue.
Really?!?!?! AT&T's 5GB plan is $60/month. So why exactly is $50/month for a higher speed network that fails back to 3G with a more broad coverage than AT&T's 3G network "absolutely terrible"???
So what exactly will AT&T do to become top dog?
There are technologies that can be used to allow simultaneous voice & data on EVDO. Check out VoRA and SVDO.
Bah, limited coverage and more expense for what is of little benefit over what I already have? I get about a 90ms ping, on the high side, but not terrible, and about 4 megs down and 2 megs up on my iPhone 4. How much speed do I honestly need on my phone?
in what year... will I be able to have unlimited data, at speeds of atleast 10Mb/s downstream......
side thought: today is december 1st, so the cdma iphone manufacturing should be starting?
side thought: today is december 1st, so the cdma iphone manufacturing should be starting?
I don't know how much do you need? Personally I would love to be able to tether my phones data to a laptop, when I am out in the wilderness or on the road. Then use my laptop very for lots of HD movie downloading and online gaming
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There is no $30 unlimited Data Connect plan.
You guys keep comparing phone data plans to laptop data plans. The $50/month plan listed here for Verizon is comparable to the $60/month data connect plan on AT&T.
LTE is in it's infancy.
By whom and for what? There is no legal basis they can sue on.
So you have a data connect plan for less then $50/month? And the coverage is still better. It includes all of Verizon's 3G coverage + 38 markets of LTE coverage.
And for the last time, this has nothing to do with phones (yet). This entire PR relates to laptop data plans only.
Not correct...
LTE and WiMAX are not 4G according to ITU-R. Only LTE Advanced1 and IMT-Advanced are 4G networks. This was announced by the ITU-R back in October.
Saying a turkey is an ostrich, because it's bigger (faster) than a chicken, doesn't make a turkey an ostrich.
-David
LTE and WiMAX are not 4G according to ITU-R. Only LTE Advanced1 and IMT-Advanced are 4G networks. This was announced by the ITU-R back in October.
Saying a turkey is an ostrich, because it's bigger (faster) than a chicken, doesn't make a turkey an ostrich.
-David
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No one listens to the ITU's definitions in this topic.
For one thing, they're the same group that originally said EDGE was a 3G protocol, and later had to admit that no carrier on the planet advertised it as such.
Yup, I'm dropping my "LTE is not 4G" mantra since it appears that nobody listens to the ITU and their authority on the subject is questionable.
The iPhone does not support HSPA+. So the speeds you are getting are from the HSPA protocol.
Good point. AT&T is using the HSPA 7.2 standard as a step to LTE. The iPhone supports HSPA 7.2.