Verizon's 5G Network Launches Starting in Chicago and Minneapolis

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Verizon today announced it has turned on its commercial 5G network, starting in select areas of Minneapolis and Chicago. Verizon had originally targeted an April 11 launch, so the rollout is a week ahead of schedule.


    Verizon customers can access the 5G network with the Moto Z3 smartphone paired with the 5G-enabled Moto Mod accessory, providing the "world's first commercial 5G mobile service with a 5G-enabled smartphone." The carrier plans to expand the network to more than 30 cities across the U.S. by the end of 2019.

    Verizon says customers in Chicago and Minneapolis should expect typical download speeds of 450 Mbps, with peak speeds of nearly 1 Gbps and latency less than 30 milliseconds. Of course, speeds should improve with future upgrades.

    In Chicago, 5G coverage is concentrated in areas of the West Loop and the South Loop, around landmarks like Union Station, Willis Tower, The Art Institute of Chicago, Millennium Park, and The Chicago Theatre, according to Verizon. 5G service is also available at select Verizon stores in the city.

    In Minneapolis, service is concentrated in the downtown area, as well as inside and around U.S. Bank Stadium. 5G service is also available around landmarks like the Minneapolis Convention Center, the Minneapolis Central Library, the Mill City Museum, Target Center, The Commons, and areas of Elliot Park.

    The Moto Z3 retails for $240, or 24 monthly payments of $10, while the 5G Moto Mod is available for $199.99 for a limited time. Verizon postpaid customers with any unlimited plan, including Go Unlimited, Beyond Unlimited, or Above Unlimited, can get unlimited 5G data for an additional $10 per month.

    As for the first 5G-enabled iPhone, UBS analyst Timothy Arcuri recently said there is "increasing potential that Apple may not be able to ship a 5G iPhone for 2020" due to the company's legal battle with chipmaker Qualcomm and the growing possibility that Intel may not have a 5G modem ready to ship by next year.

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  2. Rychiar macrumors 6502


    May 16, 2006
    Waterbury, CT
  3. s54 macrumors 6502

    Sep 25, 2012
    My thoughts exactly.

    I don't think the masses realize just how detrimental to their health 5G networks are. Proven scientifically and not openly discussed for obvious reasons.
  4. dannyyankou macrumors G3


    Mar 2, 2012
    Scarsdale, NY
  5. AngerDanger macrumors 601


    Dec 9, 2008
    Meanwhile, AngerFi, which promises full bars regardless of location, requires only a one-time payment, and is based on the same breakthrough tech as AT&T's 5GE, doesn't warrant an article of its own apparently. :rolleyes:

  6. KGBguy macrumors regular


    Feb 19, 2015
    USSR 2.0
    Everything gives you cancer today ;)
    My good neighbor got a brain tumor fro watching our local joker Gov. Polis.
  7. ricktat macrumors 65816

    Feb 18, 2013
    HA! My AT&T already has 5GE today!

    The E is for Extra
  8. HJM.NL macrumors 68020


    Jul 25, 2016
    Come on Apple, hope the 2019 iPhone will have this. Its definitely a selling point. You can’t languish on all fronts.

    Oh, just remembered it will probably come on 2020 iPhones if they manage :rolleyes:
  9. now i see it macrumors 68040

    Jan 2, 2002
  10. JetTester macrumors 6502

    Feb 12, 2014
    Laboratory mice get cancer when you experiment on them. It's their little joke on humanity. Wanna know the truth about what causes cancer? Experiment on yourself!
  11. lostczech macrumors member


    Sep 8, 2009
    By chance do you have a link to the scientific proof? I can't find anything on it, just fear-mongering sites that also want to tell me vaccines are bad (so there goes any credibility there)
  12. dlewis23 macrumors 6502a

    Oct 23, 2007
    Don't count of speeds improving by the time you actually get hardware. Once everyone starts to get on the network speeds will slow significantly.
  13. ilikewhey macrumors 6502a


    May 14, 2014
    nyc upper east
    no 5g iphone til at least 2020 so i guess i'm not in a rush if there is no verizon 5g in nyc yet.
  14. Analog Kid, Apr 3, 2019
    Last edited: Apr 3, 2019

    Analog Kid macrumors 601

    Analog Kid

    Mar 4, 2003
    But is it real Ultra Wideband? I don't see any 500MHz bands or signals with a fractional bandwidth of 0.2 or greater...

    Am I missing something?

    After all the heat AT&T took for false advertising, you'd think Verizon would be careful with their naming.
  15. willmtaylor macrumors G3


    Oct 31, 2009
    A Natural State
    I would also like to read up on some peer-reviewed scientific research concerning this.
  16. nt5672 macrumors 68000

    Jun 30, 2007
    I can't wait for Apple 5G! In order to release it Apple will have to throttle its speed so it does not use so much battery power (thanks Ive). Then we have to go through antenna-gate again (Apple seems to suck at RF design). Apple will switch everyone to 5G even though we don't want it so Cook can say, "Innovation" at the keynote.

    We've had problematic WIfI on and off for how many years? Realistically, I think Apple waiting till 2025 would be about right. Then Apple will have time to get the RF design right before release (not saying they will, but they'll have the time.)
  17. NightFox macrumors 68020


    May 10, 2005
    Shropshire, UK
    ...but nowhere near as much as they will drop as more people start using it once 5G phones become the norm.
  18. jeremiah256 macrumors 65816


    Aug 2, 2008
    Southern California
    Two decent looking, extremely affordable phones, with 5G, maybe available two years before the iPhone gets it. All because they have a beef with Qualcomm and will rely on the same company for 5G that has been failing to deliver the chips they planned their entire super thin MacBook line around.
  19. IPPlanMan macrumors 6502

    Dec 25, 2009
    We’re not going to see a 5G iPhone until Fall 2020.

    Apple locks down its hardware designs well ahead of time.

    Take the iPhone X which launched in Fall 2017 for example:

    “As far as last-minute design changes? Actually, we didn’t have time for it,” said Riccio, who seemed energized by the memory of that intense development period. “Quite frankly, this program was on such a fast track to be offered [and] enabled this year. We had to lock [the design] very, very early. We actually locked the design, to let you know, in November,” said Riccio before he was cut off by Apple PR. Riccio appeared to realize he’d said maybe too much, and then reaffirmed with a smile, “We had to lock it early.”​

    Apple locked down the design nearly a year before launch. The rest of the time until launch was spent testing it, verifying it and certifying it with carriers.

    If you look at the state of carrier 5G networks now, there’s no 5G network to actually test it on.

    Also, 5G networks won’t be deployed widely enough by this Fall for users to access it regularly and have an experience on par with what Apple wants.

    5G hardware isn’t ready for Apple. Unless Apple and Qualcomm make up, Apple will have to wait on Intel for a 5G Modem.

    So a 5G iPhone won’t happen until Fall 2020 at the earliest IMHO.
  20. dvhoosier macrumors newbie


    Sep 30, 2015
  21. falainber macrumors 65816


    Mar 16, 2016
    Wild West
    We are just getting reports that iPhone may get 5G only in 2021.
  22. willmtaylor macrumors G3


    Oct 31, 2009
    A Natural State
    • Both & The American Cancer Society openly and repeatedly state that fears are not proven and there is no correlation or causation between 5G and cancer.
    • "The protests are happening even though there’s next to no scientific evidence that 5G, or any earlier wireless technology, causes cancer or other illnesses. There’s 'very little evidence' that cell towers cause cancer, according to the American Cancer Society. The Federal Communications Commission has ruled that cellphone tower broadcasts are 'thousands of times below safety limits.' The World Health Organization says that 'current evidence does not confirm the existence of any health consequences from exposure to low-level electromagnetic fields.'" The Daily Beast

  23. s54 macrumors 6502

    Sep 25, 2012
    Sure. Consider yourself schooled. You're welcome.

  24. peelage macrumors newbie


    Jul 24, 2014
    It’s a great place to live, number 1 bike city.
  25. nt5672 macrumors 68000

    Jun 30, 2007
    Yep, but be careful to only read the research where the authors reveal who sponsored (paid for) the research, reveal any personal/professional conflicts of interest, and provide enough data for repeatability to be established.

    Almost no research meets these requirements today. Why? Most research articles, including those in peer-reviewed publications, are not much more than paid advertisements; either for sponsoring companies, or the environmentalist/political naysayers. In these cases, the truth does not matter. To the researcher, it's only a paycheck. Without pandering to the sponsor, there is no further research for the researcher (or the researcher's organization.)

    Alas, most people do not want to understand the real world, only what supports their own indoctrination induced philosophy or politics. So scientific research goes along unabated with false conclusions, hope, or despair as the case may be.

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