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My internet is 25mpbs so why even bother getting an isp in the next 5 years if 500 mbps Internet is flowing through the air everywhere
How does loading the same pages and content faster mean you use more data?

If I swim 100m and Michael Phelps swims 100m faster than me. We’ve both only swam 100m.
 
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You don't appear to have answered it, actually, and they're not listed (or not at all easy to find), but that’s ok. The more I read, the more I’m convinced this is not UWB. Best I can tell, they mean “wider band than LTE” and marketing misappropriated a previously well defined technical term because it sounded cool and now the likes of Time Domain are doomed to explaining to every potential customer that they make UWB systems and 5G is not UWB.

Not as big a sin as rebranding LTE as 5Ge, maybe, but I wish they hadn’t done it. For one thing, it makes it harder to throw shade on AT&T when it seems no one can really keep their noses clean. It also brought to my attention that Verizon's 5G Home products are also not standards compliant. They use what Verizon calls 5G TF (technical forum) rather than the standard 5G NR (new radio).

I think this is just what we're in for. We change cellular generations once a decade or so and everyone has their marketing engines in overdrive trying to be first to something even if that thing isn't what they want us to think it is.

I assume you mean the frequency specs are listed on their site, but I haven’t been able to find much. The Moto Mod itself indicates it operates in the n260 and n261 bands, but it doesn't specify the channel width. Could be anywhere from 50 to 400MHz if they follow the spec and none of those qualify as UWB as that term had been used and is defined under FCC guidelines.
It is listed and I’m not going to look for someone that’s too lazy to make a simple google search or read Verizon’s website. They straight up call it UWB on their website for the phone service. I also pointed out that Verizon has two 5G standards. “Home 5G” and 5G for cellular, which is the standard version of 5G. It’s not that hard. They use both, but for different products.
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It is listed and I’m not going to look for someone that’s too lazy to make a simple google search or read Verizon’s website. They straight up call it UWB on their website for the phone service. I also pointed out that Verizon has two 5G standards. “Home 5G” and 5G for cellular, which is the standard version of 5G. It’s not that hard. They use both, but for different products.

They also say what band it is. I’m pretty sure I screen shot it as well.
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If I had to guess, I think there would be some initial sales but then they’d fall off a cliff. Having a few, relatively small areas of coverage in just a couple large cities—with a similar patchy rollout in a few more neighborhoods in a handful of other cities this year—just doesn’t seem sufficient to me to drive many sales. At $200 anyway. I actually this ends up with them giving them away. But I could well be wrong :)

Oh, I bet they do give them away. I read on their site yesterday that they are only available for the people that have the phone, and you can only get as man as are on your account. It’s like they thought it was going to be a blowout. Lol
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If I had to guess, I think there would be some initial sales but then they’d fall off a cliff. Having a few, relatively small areas of coverage in just a couple large cities—with a similar patchy rollout in a few more neighborhoods in a handful of other cities this year—just doesn’t seem sufficient to me to drive many sales. At $200 anyway. I actually this ends up with them giving them away. But I could well be wrong :)

Just found this.

https://www.theverge.com/2019/4/4/18295600/verizon-5g-network-first-tests-data-speed
 
They straight up call it UWB on their website for the phone service.
Then it must be true...

You certainly aren’t obligated to look for me but, by the forum rules, just telling me I’m too lazy to Google is not really appropriate either.

I appreciate you’re trying to help, but a link to a press release won’t answer my question. I really don’t think this is about my laziness— I’ve linked you to half a dozen sources, while you keep telling me to check their press release and search their site (trust me, I have). It may be that you don’t understand what I’m talking about. That’s fine, no reason to get angry about it.

Every search I’ve done has confirmed that this is not UWB by the FCC definition I linked to. You keep insisting the opposite but haven’t given any support for that position other than the fact that Verizon calls it so— which was exactly my point from the beginning: AT&T took heat for distorting the meaning of a well understood technical term, Verizon appears to be doing the same.

If you really do know something that I don’t, then I’d like to learn it. If we’re talking past each other than we’re wasting everyone’s time.

They also say what band it is. I’m pretty sure I screen shot it as well.
You quoted yourself here, so I’m not sure if this was directed to me. If you’re referring to the screenshots in this post, that’s just non-technical advertising. As I stated pretty clearly, I think, I do know what bands the Moto Mod supports. I think I’ve also been clear that UWB is defined by bandwdth. I don’t know what bandwidths are supported here. I do know what bandwidths the spec provides (which I’ve also shared), but the Moto Mod marketing material doesn’t say which of those are implemented and none of the bandwidths in the spec are ultra wideband to begin with.

So I continue to believe that Verizon marketing got over eager in calling this UWB. If you have specific technical information that contradicts this and that you’re willing to cite directly, I’d like to hear it. If not, then no harm done. Thanks for at least trying.
 
Everything gives you cancer today ;)
My good neighbor got a brain tumor fro watching our local joker Gov. Polis.

Is Gov. Polis first name Minnea? I digress.

I'd say the biggest cause of cancer these days would be diet and the sedentary american life plan but what do I know?

I live in Minneapolis and saw them putting up some unusual looking mini-towers in the Edina/Bloomington area over the last 15 months and it must be city-wide wifi rather than 5g cell as all of the locations mentioned in the article above are peak areas of downtown Minneapolis.

So how many phones can take advantage of this new speed? What brands/models?
 
Is Gov. Polis first name Minnea? I digress.

I'd say the biggest cause of cancer these days would be diet and the sedentary american life plan but what do I know?

I live in Minneapolis and saw them putting up some unusual looking mini-towers in the Edina/Bloomington area over the last 15 months and it must be city-wide wifi rather than 5g cell as all of the locations mentioned in the article above are peak areas of downtown Minneapolis.

So how many phones can take advantage of this new speed? What brands/models?
From the article, "Verizon customers can access the 5G network with the Moto Z3 smartphone paired with the 5G-enabled Moto Mod accessory, providing the 'world's first commercial 5G mobile service with a 5G-enabled smartphone.'"
 
Rather wait to see T-Mobile's 5G implementation on 600MHz and 2.5GHz bands to see how it fares against Verizon's 28GHz and 39GHz mmWave bands.
 
Two decent looking, extremely affordable phones, with 5G, maybe available two years before the iPhone gets it. All because they have a beef with Qualcomm and will rely on the same company for 5G that has been failing to deliver the chips they planned their entire super thin MacBook line around.

The phone itself doesn’t have 5G. After buying the phone you gotta pay an additional 85% of the phones original price for an accessory that offers it. That doesn't seem like a good buy to me.
 
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