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Everything that is taken by Google is used to improve your Internet Experience, it's basically having everything thrown at you at a glance. Google doesn't share your data attached to your name and vice versa. Apple has also wrote on their terms and conditions that they do use and share your data aswell, so complete privacy is non existant on the internet. Period.
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You're whistling past the graveyard and sadly mistaken. First, Google is amassing a massive dossier on you. They or anyone who gets access to your file via search warrant, hacking, etc., can read every email you've ever sent or received, see everywhere you've ever gone, access every photo you've ever taken, see every web page you've visited, see what you've looked at on those pages, read your posts, read every document you've uploaded, etc. That should worry you.

Second, it may make you feel better to say that all Google is doing is "improving your Internet experience," but that's simply not true. Google is amassing that data to sell access to it. No, they aren't going to sell off the data directly, (at least not for now, but read your terms of service, they retain the right to sell or transfer it later on), but by knowing every intimate detail of your life, the data grows ever more valuable to third parties. Over 90% of Google's revenue comes from selling access to that database, zero from "improving your Internet experience." Improving your Internet experience only has value to Google to the extent that it gets you to share more of your and your family's data.
 
Nice try... but we all know what a notch is.
And we all know what a rectangle is, and why a rectangle without a notch is a better display.

No... sorry. No. The notch adds screen to a rectangle. I love the extra tabs of display that move important task independent content out of my rectangle. The Samsung devices waste space that could have been more screen.
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Again, if you're absolutely anti-Google, it's possible to use an Android phone without any of their services. Non-google search, non-google apps, no google "things" no login anywhere.

Where do I get a distribution of android that was not in any way developed or promotes market share for google? The OS is one of their services, so while you can avoid using google maps, you can’t avoid the os.
 
Samsung S9 design looks a bit dated, hope they are going full edge to edge on the SX.
The notch is not an issue as it is an OLED screen so one can simply put a black border on the top and you not notice it, just have white battery icon and time and looks great.

It is Apple that is making the notch look ugly insisting developers make the notch stand out and reject any apps that try to hide it or make it looks nice.

The finger sensor still there due to poor facial recognition and security and still has legacy old analog 2.5 mm jack that needs to go.
 
The reality is that everyone who has one doesn’t even notice the notch.

I don’t know about this notch, but I love the dual extended displays on top of my new iPhone X. I keep status icons like battery, signal strength, and a clock on mine. Things I want access to in most apps without giving up space on the app itself. I also added unique gestures to each of the extra displays so I have quick access to notifications and commonly changed settings and apps.

Honestly, these extra displays on my iPhone improve my productivity and I don’t think I would want to go back to the inefficent single rectangle. But that’s just me.
 
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Just because Apple does a dumb decision doesn't mean the Audio companies are going to follow it aswell.

It has nothing to do with audio companies. Phone companies.
Take a look at Google Pixel 2 or Huawei P10.
All will follow. They have to. To stay relevant.
 
It has nothing to do with audio companies. Phone companies.
Take a look at Google Pixel 2 or Huawei P10.
All will follow. They have to. To stay relevant.
I was speaking based on the other guy's quote
"You can keep waiting. Headphone jack is still universially used, not only for smartphone, but also for tablets, computers, cars, TVs and anything related with audio.

You will end up waiting forever for the headphone jack to be disappear. Old things doesn’t mean it is not good. Lots of people will not buy a devices without headphone jack. I won’t either."

And you may not know, you can't predict the future can you? Just because some followed doesn't mean All will. Take Samsung for example, they are still keeping the headphone jack.
 
I switched from a Samsung s6 to an iPhone 6s because of the lack of duplicated system apps on the iPhone (the extra samsung apps that must remain, even if you wanted/needed others; you can't really make the others default in every way), additionally the iOS software stack is more optimized and the iPhone will run faster, for a longer period. I couldn't switch until I saw I didn't need to tweak the phone anymore.
 
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I was speaking based on the other guy's quote
"You can keep waiting. Headphone jack is still universially used, not only for smartphone, but also for tablets, computers, cars, TVs and anything related with audio.

You will end up waiting forever for the headphone jack to be disappear. Old things doesn’t mean it is not good. Lots of people will not buy a devices without headphone jack. I won’t either."

And you may not know, you can't predict the future can you? Just because some followed doesn't mean All will. Take Samsung for example, they are still keeping the headphone jack.



Facts don't care about your feelings. Your prediction of headphone jacks lasting forever was bad timing.

Headphone jack is on its way out. Once again, Apple leads the way.

From Tech Crunch's review of latest phones at Mobile World Congress


"At this point, in early 2018, the headphone jack is only standard on mid-range to entry-level phones. On flagship phones, more often than not, the 3.5mm is becoming harder to find and could be an excellent way for manufactures to stand apart from others in the coming years."
"... the 3.5mm jack should only be considered standard equipment on mid-to-entry level phones — it’s disappearing from flagship phones at a rapid pace.
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Facts don't care about your feelings. Your prediction of headphone jacks lasting forever was bad timing.

Headphone jack is on its way out. Once again, Apple leads the way.

From Tech Crunch's review of latest phones at Mobile World Congress


"At this point, in early 2018, the headphone jack is only standard on mid-range to entry-level phones. On flagship phones, more often than not, the 3.5mm is becoming harder to find and could be an excellent way for manufactures to stand apart from others in the coming years."
"... the 3.5mm jack should only be considered standard equipment on mid-to-entry level phones — it’s disappearing from flagship phones at a rapid pace.
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It's still there on Samsung phones so there is still a chance that it's not going away soon.
 
It's still there on Samsung phones so there is still a chance that it's not going away soon.


What Apple does, Samsung soon follows. But beyond that, there's just little reason for the headphone jack as Apple has shown. Despite predictions of doom and gloom by the Verge and others, hundreds of millions of people have bought an iPhone without one, and their lives didn't end. Instead they got a larger battery, more waterproof, etc. And very soon, wired headphones will seem anachronistic; wireless sales are already leaving wired sales in the dust and once folks try wireless they don't want to go back. At Costco over the weekend, and every single headphone and speaker for sale was wireless. If you're looking for a headphone jack as a buying criteria, you're doing it wrong.;)
 
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Given the price of these handsets - that sort of thing just annoys me.

lol, really? Poor RAM management and only 3 GB of RAM, no headphone jack, and protruding camera don't annoy you more? Given the price of the X, you gladly accept the overpricing of a device lacking so much in performance and hardware? Really? You know, these are things that actually affect the functionality of the device. And you don't feel compelled to call out Apple and the iPX they way you just did the GS9 for it's ports and speaker grill? SMH.
 
What Apple does, Samsung soon follows. But beyond that, there's just little reason for the headphone jack as Apple has shown. Despite predictions of doom and gloom by the Verge and others, hundreds of millions of people have bought an iPhone without one, and their lives didn't end. Instead they got a larger battery, more waterproof, etc. And very soon, wired headphones will seem anachronistic; wireless sales are already leaving wired sales in the dust and once folks try wireless they don't want to go back. At Costco over the weekend, and every single headphone and speaker for sale was wireless. If you're looking for a headphone jack as a buying criteria, you're doing it wrong.;)
In the day that wireless headphone technology wont have latency and pairing issues along with an awful battery life which requires prior planning to charge, let me know.
 
In the day that wireless headphone technology wont have latency and pairing issues along with an awful battery life which requires prior planning to charge, let me know.


Hope you are sitting down. BT 4.1/2 actually works very well, but Apple has done away with the issues you raise with the W-1 chip, so pick any device that has it. Instant pairing, zero latency!

Beats Studio 3 wireless has had great reviews on hi-fi sites, etc., and that will get you about 30 plus hours without needing a recharge. AirPods get you about 24hr with the case charging them up very quickly to 4 or 5 hours. Of course, many people stream from their phones to wireless speakers that last for many many hours and you are already charging your phone when you are home, so it's pretty much infinite. Sounds good doesn't it. Life is good, welcome to the wireless revolution. Once you try wireless you won't go back.
 
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Hope you are sitting down. BT 4.1/2 actually works very well, but Apple has done away with the issues you raise with the W-1 chip, so pick any device that has it. Instant pairing, zero latency!

Beats Studio 3 wireless has had great reviews on hi-fi sites, etc., and that will get you about 30 plus hours without needing a recharge. AirPods get you about 24hr with the case charging them up very quickly to 4 or 5 hours. Of course, many people stream from their phones to wireless speakers that last for many many hours and you are already charging your phone when you are home, so it's pretty much infinite. Sounds good doesn't it. Life is good, welcome to the wireless revolution. Once you try wireless you won't go back.
I have tried wireless and I still prefer wired technology especially for sound quality.
 

Yet it's not a problem for me, go figure?
It's great that you have your standards but my non standard apps just aren't an issue at all.
WhatsApp, Messenger? Not an issue, one is built in, the other you download once and there's your consistency.
You make it sound like we're all tugging at our hair in a desperate confused state but i really, there's nothing hard about downloading an app and using it.
You completely missed my point. Of course it’s not “hard”. It just creates fragmentation. iMessage is standard across iPhones and therefore most iPhone users use it. WhatsApp does not have nearly the widespread use on Android that iMessage on the iPhone has precisely because it is not the standard messaging app. So then some android users are using one platform and others are using another and the features of each are not cross-compatible. And then Android users default to basic SMS in order to remain connected to all contacts. On the iPhone, there is no fragmentation on these kinds of basic features, and because imessage and sms are integrated, the experience is seamless.
 
You completely missed my point. Of course it’s not “hard”. It just creates fragmentation. iMessage is standard across iPhones and therefore most iPhone users use it. WhatsApp does not have nearly the widespread use on Android that iMessage on the iPhone has precisely because it is not the standard messaging app. So then some android users are using one platform and others are using another and the features of each are not cross-compatible. And then Android users default to basic SMS in order to remain connected to all contacts. On the iPhone, there is no fragmentation on these kinds of basic features, and because imessage and sms are integrated, the experience is seamless.
Most iPhone users use it in USA, because around the globe most iPhone users use Whatsapp and Facebook Messenger plus the Android users who use the same services.
 
You completely missed my point. Of course it’s not “hard”. It just creates fragmentation. iMessage is standard across iPhones and therefore most iPhone users use it. WhatsApp does not have nearly the widespread use on Android that iMessage on the iPhone has precisely because it is not the standard messaging app. So then some android users are using one platform and others are using another and the features of each are not cross-compatible. And then Android users default to basic SMS in order to remain connected to all contacts. On the iPhone, there is no fragmentation on these kinds of basic features, and because imessage and sms are integrated, the experience is seamless.

Except when you want to send pics or vids to Android users, then is it seamless?

I get what you're saying, I just don't see it as a big issue, I have iPhone friends and Android friends and nothing is a hassle.
We mostly all use WhatsApp and those who don't can send media via another app.
I don't see fragmentation, it's more like adaptation imo.
Maybe Apple should port iMessage to Android, wouldn't that be great?
 
I have both Mac and iPad Pros and 2017 iPads. I absolutely hate iPhone and iOS in general. It is so much limited compare wit Windows or Android. Therefore, I absolutely do not wan iPhone again. I am using iPad Pro and iPad because there are no better tablet than iPad. If there is any, I will jump ship without doubt.
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Oh... Wait... I already have several Android phones with home button... I like my Android virtual key, works every time and without worrying about home button fail.
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You can keep waiting. Headphone jack is still universially used, not only for smartphone, but also for tablets, computers, cars, TVs and anything related with audio.

You will end up waiting forever for the headphone jack to be disappear. Old things doesn’t mean it is not good. Lots of people will not buy a devices without headphone jack. I won’t either.
Reminds of that time Apple eliminated floppy disks, serial ports in favour of USB, optical drives, moved to all-USB C etc. And every time, they were criticized by the competition before the competition moved in that direction too. I give the headphone jack one maybe two years max before it is gone forever, at least on smartphones. For computers there is a case to be made for leaving it, but handheld devices by their nature should remain free from wires/cables.
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Except when you want to send pics or vids to Android users, then is it seamless?

I get what you're saying, I just don't see it as a big issue, I have iPhone friends and Android friends and nothing is a hassle.
We mostly all use WhatsApp and those who don't can send media via another app.
I don't see fragmentation, it's more like adaptation imo.
Maybe Apple should port iMessage to Android, wouldn't that be great?
Using multiple apps is fragmentation. Jumping back and forth between different apps is obviously inferior to having everything all in one. iMessage is a major draw for Android users who feel left out and end up switching to Apple.
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Most iPhone users use it in USA, because around the globe most iPhone users use Whatsapp and Facebook Messenger plus the Android users who use the same services.
Where are you talking about where most iPhone users use WhatsApp and FB messenger? Where is your data on this?
 
There was a time when media capable phones mostly all used proprietory audio ports, then we lauded the introduction 3.5mm jack, now we want rid of it again.
I don't care either way.
 
Except when you want to send pics or vids to Android users, then is it seamless?

I get what you're saying, I just don't see it as a big issue, I have iPhone friends and Android friends and nothing is a hassle.
We mostly all use WhatsApp and those who don't can send media via another app.
I don't see fragmentation, it's more like adaptation imo.
Maybe Apple should port iMessage to Android, wouldn't that be great?
Never had an issue send pics or videos to Android.
 
Reminds of that time Apple eliminated floppy disks, serial ports in favour of USB, optical drives, moved to all-USB C etc. And every time, they were criticized by the competition before the competition moved in that direction too. I give the headphone jack one maybe two years max before it is gone forever, at least on smartphones. For computers there is a case to be made for leaving it, but handheld devices by their nature should remain free from wires/cables.
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Using multiple apps is fragmentation. Jumping back and forth between different apps is obviously inferior to having everything all in one. iMessage is a major draw for Android users who feel left out and end up switching to Apple.
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Where are you talking about where most iPhone users use WhatsApp and FB messenger? Where is your data on this?
Where is your data that they use iMessage instead then?
 
Using multiple apps is fragmentation. Jumping back and forth between different apps is obviously inferior to having everything all in one. iMessage is a major draw for Android users who feel left out and end up switching to Apple.


Think about that the next time you need to use an app to access a file.

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Never had an issue send pics or videos to Android.
Using imessage?
 
There was a time when media capable phones mostly all used proprietory audio ports, then we lauded the introduction 3.5mm jack, now we want rid of it again.
I don't care either way.
Wireless standards have been replacing port standards for years now. One of the best decisions on the iPhone X was the move to embrace Qi charging. Qi charging for smartphones and USB C charging for computers is ushering in an era where users don’t have to hunt around for com
Where is your data that they use iMessage instead then?
A straw man argument, really? You made a claim that you can’t back up and we are all supposed to just accept that?
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Think about that the next time you need to use an app to access a file.

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Using imessage?
1. Give a specific example
2. Yes. Because iMessage and sms are integrated.
 
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