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It is frankly bewildering how it is considered by some that in order to use a Samsung phone it requires being from a lower class. Aside from anything else such irrational comments come across as obnoxious.

How have we come to where an individuals place in society is decided upon which smartphone they use?

Indeed.
This will always come from insecure people, who have very low self esteem and are very vulnerable deep inside.
They will often put on a bold brave, perhaps LOUD front to others, buy and surround themselves with what they feel are the items to try and gain admiration from others.
They lack a genuine confidence about themselves, and have to use money to buy items in an attempt to replace whan they lack as a person.

It's why I love, what I'd call old school British Gentry (posh people)
They may have a country estate, millions in the bank perhaps, but drive old run down range rovers, old furniture, very few fancy toys/gadgets.
They have nothing to try and prove to anyone.

You expect the Queen of England to rock the latest iPhone, Drive a Tesla and have a 8ft OLED on her bedroom wall?
No.
She has nothing to prove and those items mean nothing.

I could buy ten iPhoneX's or ten Galaxy 9's and not even notice it.
But I stick to my £150 Nexus 6. Why?
Because it does all I want, Has lovely screen, all the ports I could want and I much prefer the screen size (not thin and narrow like the latest phones)

I don't have anyone I need to prove myself to.
 
It seems that the S9's additional RAM is really the difference here. I've never understood why Apple is so stingy with RAM.
Then again, I've never understood why so many Android users frequent an Apple forum. Why does it matter to Android users. Is there a competition? I've never once visited an Android forum.
I would love if the x had such a curved screen, just for looks. But the curved part should not be an active touch screen, just an ambilight that matches the main color of the active display.
 
Again, if you're absolutely anti-Google, it's possible to use an Android phone without any of their services. Non-google search, non-google apps, no google "things" no login anywhere.
And at that point, you’re better off with iPhone.
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What files? My photos and videos are sent to Google Photos. Music can be easily streamed, except the few albums I like to keep on the device. Documents and other files - well I guess I'll have to decide between cloud storage, mass storage via USB, one-click FTP, Bluetooth, Wifi Direct, email… :cool:


I haven't been sent an SMS message since the spring of 2017 or so. For Messenger or WhatsApp (or the Google one I don't use), well, there are desktop clients so I usually get the message on the Mac, too.


They can and they do. What's so revolutionary about iMessage? It's just a messenger that works both on your phone and your computer.
AirDrop, again, there are alternatives. MiDrop, off the top of my head.


Not absolutely sure about this, but Find my Friends should work pretty much like Google's Location sharing.
Everything you’re describing is exactly why android is a fragmented mess that will never compare to iOS. Everything is piecemeal and inconsistent from android user to android user. iMessage is the built in standard. WhatsApp is not a standard on any android phone; some users may choose to use it while other don’t. iMessage is built into the standard message app. AirDrop alternatives? Sure. But again, having to hunt around and find something that works is a compromise, and there is no consistency or standard. You also act as though whatsapp or any of those others are only Android. Any of those apps you’re describing are on the iPhone too, but most users use the superior built in apps instead, an option not possible on android as it does not have such standard apps.
 
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It's why I love, what I'd call old school British Gentry (posh people)
They may have a country estate, millions in the bank perhaps, but drive old run down range rovers, old furniture, very few fancy toys/gadgets.
They have nothing to try and prove to anyone.

You expect the Queen of England to rock the latest iPhone, Drive a Tesla and have a 8ft OLED on her bedroom wall?
No.
She has nothing to prove and those items mean nothing.

Ditto. Love the good ol' Range Rovers. Same goes for old Volvos and Mercedes.

Very well made and sturdy made things, last for years and years. New stuff made nowadays last just a few years. Warranty runs out and breaks? Buy a new one. Sad.
 
And at that point, you’re better off with iPhone.
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Everything you’re describing is exactly why android is a fragmented mess that will never compare to iOS. Everything is piecemeal and inconsistent from android user to android user. iMessage is the built in standard. WhatsApp is not a standard on any android phone; some users may choose to use it while other don’t. iMessage is built into the standard message app. AirDrop alternatives? Sure. But again, having to hunt around and find something that works is a compromise, and there is no consistency or standard. You also act as though whatsapp or any of those others are only Android. Any of those apps you’re describing are on the iPhone too, but most users use the superior built in apps instead, an option not possible on android as it does not have such standard apps.

Yet it's not a problem for me, go figure?
It's great that you have your standards but my non standard apps just aren't an issue at all.
WhatsApp, Messenger? Not an issue, one is built in, the other you download once and there's your consistency.
You make it sound like we're all tugging at our hair in a desperate confused state but i really, there's nothing hard about downloading an app and using it.
 
Sounds like Dan should move to Samsung.

I was wondering that too but it's good to see MacRumors show non-Apple products.

I've had every iPhone from the iPhone 3G to the 7 Plus. I watched new Android products being released over the years and I had been slightly tempted to switch on many occasions but I just wasn't persuaded enough. I recently switched to the OnePlus 5T because I liked the design, the features, the weight and I wanted to try Android. The price (less than half of the iPhone X) meant it was a low risk for me to try and keep as a second phone if I didn't like it.

In all honesty, I think the OnePlus 5T is a great phone and I prefer Android OS to iOS (even with the potential security downsides). I can change almost anything from the interface design to functionality and automation that you just can't do on an iPhone. Apple, for good and bad reasons, has restricted so much on the iPhone that I think I would struggle to move back to an iPhone as my main phone now that I have become used to being able to configure the device so much.

That said, the switch away from the iPhone hasn't been all for the better. The main issue for me has been the Apple ecosystem. In an earlier post, Ocnitsa described being 'entrenched' in the Apple ecosystem and I think they're right. I have an iMac, a MacBook Pro, iPad, Apple Watch and Apple TV and they integrate really well. It had held me back from trying Android for such a long time and the devices are slightly less useful without the integration. For example, I hadn't clocked that my Apple Watch would become a glorified fitness tracker without the iPhone by my side. I've yet to find an Android watch that I like (although there is far more choice). Apple could increase the number of Apple Watches it sells if they integrated with Android devices but they probably won't because it's Apple and it's another device that keeps you using their other products.

From a daily usage perspective, I missed iMessage and being able to use multiple devices to send messages but I realised that most of my contacts used WhatsApp anyway (I prefer Telegram because you can run on multiple devices more easily than WhatsApp but not many of my contacts use Telegram). iCloud backup feels more reliable but most of my data is in the cloud anyway. I also missed Apple News as it seems to gather more appropriate news items than Google equivalent (I've still got my iPad for Apple News). The only other app I had missed is Spark email but I understand that is coming to Android soon.

Switching away from the iPhone was a big step for me but overall I'm pleased I did it. It was the first time in recent years when I was actually excited to get a new phone. The yearly iPhone upgrades had become a bit dull with backing up old iPhone, switching to new iPhone and a few extra features. I miss some of the features of the iPhone and the simplicity and security of the Apple ecosystem but I have more freedom now. I will still continue to use my other Apple products and may well switch back to the iPhone in the future (they'd need to lose the notch though) but I don't feel the loyalty trap anymore. Hopefully Apple will start to allow more configuration in their devices in the future. If they don't, people like me may stay with Android. Now that I am used to Android, I have a whole host of hardware options, including Google Pixel, Samsung etc.
 
There are "users" that aren't exclusive to the Apple ecosystem. For example, I have slowly started to remove much of my dependence on the system because Apple is turning into an media consumption company versus a technology company. The iPhone X is a complete joke, they've haven't updated the Mac Mini and Mac Pro in years, they've rid themselves of routers, and the list goes on and on.

Well that's you. Different strokes for different folks. I don't see how the X is complete joke. I opted for the iPhone 8 plus which largely has the same internals and it's certainly no joke. X's facial recognition system is a pretty big achievement. The Mac Mini is a fringe product in many ways and the Pro caters to professionals, a relatively small market. Oh, by the way, there's a major refresh on the way. Apple continues to grow it's "vertical integration" so it's logical for them to expand the service sector and media consumption.
 
I was wondering that too but it's good to see MacRumors show non-Apple products.

I've had every iPhone from the iPhone 3G to the 7 Plus. I watched new Android products being released over the years and I had been slightly tempted to switch on many occasions but I just wasn't persuaded enough. I recently switched to the OnePlus 5T because I liked the design, the features, the weight and I wanted to try Android. The price (less than half of the iPhone X) meant it was a low risk for me to try and keep as a second phone if I didn't like it.

In all honesty, I think the OnePlus 5T is a great phone and I prefer Android OS to iOS (even with the potential security downsides). I can change almost anything from the interface design to functionality and automation that you just can't do on an iPhone. Apple, for good and bad reasons, has restricted so much on the iPhone that I think I would struggle to move back to an iPhone as my main phone now that I have become used to being able to configure the device so much.

That said, the switch away from the iPhone hasn't been all for the better. The main issue for me has been the Apple ecosystem. In an earlier post, Ocnitsa described being 'entrenched' in the Apple ecosystem and I think they're right. I have an iMac, a MacBook Pro, iPad, Apple Watch and Apple TV and they integrate really well. It had held me back from trying Android for such a long time and the devices are slightly less useful without the integration. For example, I hadn't clocked that my Apple Watch would become a glorified fitness tracker without the iPhone by my side. I've yet to find an Android watch that I like (although there is far more choice). Apple could increase the number of Apple Watches it sells if they integrated with Android devices but they probably won't because it's Apple and it's another device that keeps you using their other products.

From a daily usage perspective, I missed iMessage and being able to use multiple devices to send messages but I realised that most of my contacts used WhatsApp anyway (I prefer Telegram because you can run on multiple devices more easily than WhatsApp but not many of my contacts use Telegram). iCloud backup feels more reliable but most of my data is in the cloud anyway. I also missed Apple News as it seems to gather more appropriate news items than Google equivalent (I've still got my iPad for Apple News). The only other app I had missed is Spark email but I understand that is coming to Android soon.

Switching away from the iPhone was a big step for me but overall I'm pleased I did it. It was the first time in recent years when I was actually excited to get a new phone. The yearly iPhone upgrades had become a bit dull with backing up old iPhone, switching to new iPhone and a few extra features. I miss some of the features of the iPhone and the simplicity and security of the Apple ecosystem but I have more freedom now. I will still continue to use my other Apple products and may well switch back to the iPhone in the future (they'd need to lose the notch though) but I don't feel the loyalty trap anymore. Hopefully Apple will start to allow more configuration in their devices in the future. If they don't, people like me may stay with Android. Now that I am used to Android, I have a whole host of hardware options, including Google Pixel, Samsung etc.
I agree. I think it is good that MacRumors does videos on other brands. I just heard a lot of bias from Dan in the video, which led me to think he has a preference for Android even though he currently uses iOS.

I tried Android before Apple years ago, and was not happy with the fragmentation of the OS, the lack of prompt updates, and the lack of integration with other products. I am happy with the Apple ecosystem.

It is good that you are ok with switching even though you found out the grass isn't always greener on the other side.
 
I definitely prefer the Samsung way- the iPhone X notch is so ugly. I don’t really notice it anymore but when I do , ugh.
Gets on my nerve each time I watch a video full screen or browse landscape. Otherwise, the notch is tolerable. Much prefer no notch.
 
As always, it basically just comes down to which software platform you prefer. The two phones seem closer than ever in terms of hardware features.

The one thing that always gets me, which is the one thing I wish Samsung would take from the iPhone, is Apple's attention to detail. For example, when you did the bottom shot of the two phones:

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This really stood out to me. On the iPhone, everything is absolutely centred in all directions. The lightning port is bang in the middle, the screws are equidistant from the port, even the speaker grill(s) are even.

On the S9, the speaker on the right is central and touching the band. The mic next to it is off-centre, slightly further forward. The USB port seems to be right at the back of the case, and the headphone jack on the left is away from the band (so not symmetrical with the speaker), isn't central, and doesn't seem to line up with any of the other ports. It looks messy.

Given the price of these handsets - that sort of thing just annoys me.
 
As always, it basically just comes down to which software platform you prefer. The two phones seem closer than ever in terms of hardware features.

The one thing that always gets me, which is the one thing I wish Samsung would take from the iPhone, is Apple's attention to detail. For example, when you did the bottom shot of the two phones:


Given the price of these handsets - that sort of thing just annoys me.

That’s one way of looking at it. Another is that the iphone has been designed for aesthetics, while the Samsung has been engineered to favour practicality over aesthetics.

Of the two design choices, the greatest folly (for me) is the iPhone’s fake speaker grill on the left. It serves no purpose, Apple chose to drill a set of holes into the frame for no other reason than to mirror the right hand side.
 
That’s one way of looking at it. Another is that the iphone has been designed for aesthetics, while the Samsung has been engineered to favour practicality over aesthetics.

Of the two design choices, the greatest folly (for me) is the iPhone’s fake speaker grill on the left. It serves no purpose, Apple chose to drill a set of holes into the frame for no other reason than to mirror the right hand side.

Don't forget the hideous camera bump
 
These threads are always a fun, yet dystopian read. Such firm blinder-wearing partisanship only viewers outside the bubble recognize both sides are wrong. Carry on.
 
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The S9 looks seriously ugly in my opinion, as did the S8. I’m sure many will disagree but for me it fundamentally fails aesthetically.

Honestly I don’t know why people are so hyped about it.
Agreed. It looks too "plastic-y" to me. This makes it appear more like a toy than a actual cell phone.
 
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Just like most iOS users, I am pretty much tied to the Apple ecosystem. There is just no way for me to jump ship even how good the hardware other manufacturers offer. My wife is the only one in the family that uses a non-Apple device, a laptop running Windows and to be fair, she works for Intel, LOL.
 
I keep saying that it is comparing an Apple (figuratively speaking
in this case) with an Orange.
Both Android and IOS have their pro's and cons.
My opinion? Own a PC?, go for the Galaxy because it works smoother. If you own a Mac or iPad, go for the iPhone X for the same reason.
Choose what suits you best to get things done and forget these comparisons.
Different types of OS, different ballgame.

I have both Mac and iPad Pros and 2017 iPads. I absolutely hate iPhone and iOS in general. It is so much limited compare wit Windows or Android. Therefore, I absolutely do not wan iPhone again. I am using iPad Pro and iPad because there are no better tablet than iPad. If there is any, I will jump ship without doubt.
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Comparing iPhone X with a Samsung S9 is really boring.

I can predict the future...soon Android will get rid of the home button

The search bar on the home screen is a drone's connection to mother ship Google.

Oh... Wait... I already have several Android phones with home button... I like my Android virtual key, works every time and without worrying about home button fail.
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I can't wait to get rid of the headphones jack. They will have to at some point. Apple always sets the standards, and Samsung will follow. Eventualy.

You can keep waiting. Headphone jack is still universially used, not only for smartphone, but also for tablets, computers, cars, TVs and anything related with audio.

You will end up waiting forever for the headphone jack to be disappear. Old things doesn’t mean it is not good. Lots of people will not buy a devices without headphone jack. I won’t either.
 
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You can keep waiting. Headphone jack is still universially used, not only for smartphone, but also for tablets, computers, cars, TVs and anything related with audio.

You will end up waiting forever for the headphone jack to be disappear. Old things doesn’t mean it is not good. Lots of people will not buy a devices without headphone jack. I won’t either.

Soon buddy soon. It will happen.
 
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