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Nothing groundbreaking here. With the Samsung you get a whole lot of phone for the price. I think as mentioned, it’s all about ecosystem and it’s difficult to compare the two. What has always been tough for me with Samsung is the fact that they make refrigerators, washing machines, ultrasounds, and heck they even make toilet seats. I dunno it’s probably just a personal issue but I always find more interest in companies that specialize as opposed to companies that generalize.
There hasn't been any groundbreaking smart phone releases in several years.
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The millions of iOS users who actually use the many powerful Apps available for their iPhones and iPads?
So who are they?
 
Let's just get this out there... Despite Samsung's protestations, the S9 has a notch too. It's just the entire width of the screen.
It’s a bezel and it’s ugly.
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Why is having the thinnest bezel so important? Is there something it enables that you can't do with a phone that has 1mm more bezels around the phone?
Because bezels are pointless. Bigger screens without bezels.
 
The elephant in the room is OLED PWM screen flicker on the X at a frequency that induces eye strain, whereas the Samsung phones don't have this problem. I can't even look at an X screen for more than a couple minutes. Thank goodness they're using LCD screens on the 8 (no flicker).
 
Genuine iPhone enthusiast here. I have to say, the S9 is a nice looking device. Ultimately its Android that doesn’t interest me. Hardware between smart phone manufacturers has high standards, but iOS and its security has me loyal.
 
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The elephant in the room is OLED PWM screen flicker on the X at a frequency that induces eye strain, whereas the Samsung phones don't have this problem. I can't even look at an X screen for more than a couple minutes.
A couple of strong shots of Johnny Walker Red, and the eye strain isn't really a problem anymore. ;)

I have seen the strain thread. Glad I don't have that problem. I have never noticed the flicker.
 
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It is a nice color.

Also glad the fingerprint sensor is below the camera this year. Should be slightly lower, but it's a step in the right direction.
Still makes absolutely no sense to put a sensor where it can’t be seen. It’s a compromised version of Touch ID for the sake of avoiding more Apple lawsuits.
 
The millions of iOS users who actually use the many powerful Apps available for their iPhones and iPads?

As of March 2017, Android users were able to choose between 2.8 million apps. Apple's App Store remained the second-largest app store with 2.2 million available apps.

Source
 
I can ask you the same question about your iPhone and your computer. Can you 3 an apps that you daily use that need more than 2 cores?

“that you daily use”? Trying to move the goalposts by qualifying only Apps I use every day? Fine, here’s one I actually use daily.

Pixelmator. Can you find me the Android equivalent? I’ll try it on my S8 to see how it compares.


One problem with Android is it's an orphan. Microsoft has Windows and Apple has macOS. They both have mature desktop OSes with a large selection of powerful software they can draw on. As mobile devices have become more powerful we're seeing more and more features & abilities that were formerly on desktop move to mobile (just like software we run on the desktop today used to run on very expensive workstations or super computers). Android lacks this "big brother".

Another problem is scaling. Android has pretty much abandoned the tablet market to the iPad. Look at Samsungs most powerful tablets sold today. They don't even use last years 8895 processor let alone their latest the 9810. Further, companies like Samsung or Qualcomm don't make higher-powered versions of their mobile processor more suitable for a tablet (or even the new ARM Windows devices). Unlike Apple who makes the A9X or A10X which are significantly more powerful than the regular A9/A10. It's like they can't even be bothered to try and make a powerful tablet, which is the type of device where you'd actually want to do work on (compared to a smartphone).

Because of this lack of high-end tablet hardware there's no incentive at all for developers to try and make feature-rich and powerful software that can do things people used to only do on desktops. If they can't be bothered to try and make this type of software for a tablet, then what incentive do they have to bring it further and put those features into your phone? None. Which is why you don't see any high-end Apps on Android. There's nothing trickling down from the desktop to tablets to phones.

Now you have Google trying to figure out if the future is Android, ChromeOS or Fuschia. It's like they don't really have a plan for their OS strategy.
 
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I still really dig the edge display -- the way that the display seems just roll off the edge of the phone. Knockout design, IMO.

After looking at the S8 last year, and now the S9, it really does make you go "Holy side bezels!" with after phone you pick up thereafter.
I don’t see the point of having a distorted display edge beyond trying to differentiate it from other phones, but I guess it comes down to personal taste.
 
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“that you daily use”? Trying to move the goalposts by qualifying only Apps I use every day? Fine, here’s one I actually use daily.

Pixelmator. Can you find me the Android equivalent? I’ll try it on my S8 to see how it compares.


One problem with Android is it's an orphan. Microsoft has Windows and Apple has macOS. They both have mature desktop OSes with a large selection of powerful software they can draw on. As mobile devices have become more powerful we're seeing more and more features & abilities that were formerly on desktop move to mobile (just like software we run on the desktop today used to run on very expensive workstations or super computers). Android lacks this "big brother".

Another problem is scaling. Android has pretty much abandoned the tablet market to the iPad. Look at Samsungs most powerful tablets sold today. They don't even use last years 8895 processor let alone their latest the 9810. Further, companies like Samsung or Qualcomm don't make higher-powered versions of their mobile processor more suitable for a tablet (or even the new ARM Windows devices). Unlike Apple who makes the A9X or A10X which are significantly more powerful than the regular A9/A10. It's like they can't even be bothered to try and make a powerful tablet, which is the type of device where you'd actually want to do work on (compared to a smartphone).

Because of this lack of high-end tablet hardware there's no incentive at all for developers to try and make feature-rich and powerful software that can do things people used to only do on desktops. If they can't be bothered to try and make this type of software for a tablet, then what incentive do they have to bring it further and put those features into your phone? None. Which is why you don't see any high-end Apps on Android. There's nothing trickling down from the desktop to tablets to phones.

Now you have Google trying to figure out if the future is Android, ChromeOS or Fuschia. It's like they don't really have a plan for their OS strategy.
You wrote a huge block of text with useless things that I didn't ask only to make your first point stronger which is still not answered because Pixelmator doesn't use more than 2 cores.
 
Who is the judge of which apps are powerful and which are not? Nothing prevents developers to create "powerful" apps for both platforms. If anything, App Store (and Apple hardware) has more restrictions.

Who's the judge? How about any normal user?

You're right nothing "prevents" developers from powerful creating Apps for both platforms. That doesn't change the fact that most don't bother for Android while they do for iOS.
 
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