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Don't have time to watch it yet. But did they ever explain why they decided to go for a bigger 4 inch screen, suddenly? Because they did say 3.5 inch was perfect size before. And now when the market is flooded with bigger phones... ;)
 

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Sorry....but no, I won't be using Siri. Not because I wouldn't love to be able to do so, but because unlike a lot of people I am not easily understood when I speak to other humans, much less a machine. There are a few of us out here......

Sure, Siri is great for those who can use her -- enjoy!

My experience is the reverse. I used Siri a lot at the start, tried using it for everything I possibly could. But gradually over time I became tired with how unreliable Siri is, how often Apple's servers are unavailable to process the information. The times it does work I found it embarrassingly calling the wrong people in my address book, storing notes and reminders inaccurately, and the rest of the time complaining it can't understand or help me.

So I used Siri for a few weeks after the launch of iPhone 4S. I haven't used it much since. In fact, I can't remember the last time I used Siri for anything. I doubt iOS 6 will change much for me in terms of Siri usage. I just don't have the time or energy to correct all the mistakes Siri makes. :D

Well, I guess, learn to speak?

Anyway, supposedly Siri gets better over time. If you don't use it, Siri will never learn.
 
I can't comment much on the technical side of things (the hardware, software, and everything in between), but I gotta ask what people think of the "stretched" design of the iPhone 5? As a visual person it doesn't look good in the photos and videos. I'm reserving final judgement until I can see it in my hands. It looks like it would be difficult to use. With one hand alone and the shorter iPhone I can get to the top and bottom without having to slide the iPhone in my palm. Mind you, I'm a 5'5" person with average sized hands. Looks all nice and dandy in big hands, but mine aren't so fortunate.

I can't get use to the five (technically 6) rows of icons. It's like a 5 lane highway packed with cars making it crowded and busy. Changing lanes is next to impossible.

Correct me if I'm wrong (I'm no Mac obsessee), but wasn't the longer iPhone rejected up until now? What changed? Aside from the obvious.
 
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Why I wont buy iPod Nano? Because it does not look like this!!! :(
So, disappointed. This is what it should have been, the next logical step to the previous iPad Nano.

Apple, you definitely screwed up here!!! If you are reading this, please provide firmware update to correct this huge screw-up!

Even though I kinda agree, take a look at the home button. What shape is that? A circle. What shape are the icons? Yup. Now take a look at the iPhone home button. Whoa, it's in the shape of an app. Yeah apple ail keep the round icons for this iteration. I really thought they had something with the nano watch but I guess they though otherwise. :rolleyes:
 
it seems to be available on the Apple Keynotes Podcast in itunes now (see OP for links)

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I was referring to the icon menus and not really the shell. But yes, you are right, this shell does look better.

that's what i thought, then i edited that part out in case i misunderstood you.
 
I can't comment much on the technical side of things (the hardware, software, and everything in between), but I gotta ask what people think of the "stretched" design of the iPhone 5? As a visual person it doesn't look good in the photos and videos. I'm reserving final judgement until I can see it in my hands. It looks like it would be difficult to use. With one hand alone and the shorter iPhone I can get to the top and bottom without having to slide the iPhone in my palm. Mind you, I'm a 5'5" person with average sized hands. Looks all nice and dandy in big hands, but mine aren't so fortunate.

I can't get use to the five (technically 6) rows of icons. It's like a 5 lane highway packed with cars making it crowded and busy. Changing lanes is next to impossible.

Correct me if I'm wrong (I'm no Mac obsessee), but wasn't the longer iPhone rejected up until now? What changed? Aside from the obvious.

Lol. I am 5'6" and I can use galaxy s3 easily with one hand. The new iPhone just looks stupid.

Steve Jobs would be crying in his grave right now.
 
Some features on the new iPhone such as Siri, I'll never use, and that's fine, no biggie.

Siri is great. I use it a lot. Sure it isn't perfect, but it is quite convenient in various situations.

You may find you'll change your view of Siri when you actually have it.
 
Lol. I am 5'6" and I can use galaxy s3 easily with one hand. The new iPhone just looks stupid.

Steve Jobs would be crying in his grave right now.

I candidly agree.

Siri is great. I use it a lot. Sure it isn't perfect, but it is quite convenient in various situations.

You may find you'll change your view of Siri when you actually have it.

Siri is one of those 50-50 things, I think. I never use her even though I have her on my phone whereas my sibling uses her all the time.
 
Sorry....but no, I won't be using Siri. Not because I wouldn't love to be able to do so, but because unlike a lot of people I am not easily understood when I speak to other humans, much less a machine. There are a few of us out here......

Sure, Siri is great for those who can use her -- enjoy!

I've got an English West-country accent and it's hopeless for me too, I do presentations in front of crowds at shows no problem but to get automated systems to understand me I have to put on my best super-nasal Tiger Woods style voice :( (I'm not even joking, first time was to get through X-Box live's helpline and after trying a dozen times with perfect diction I just tried that "I'm Tiger Woods" voice from the EA sports intro and it worked perfectly :( )
 
Lol. I am 5'6" and I can use galaxy s3 easily with one hand. The new iPhone just looks stupid.

Steve Jobs would be crying in his grave right now.

Yeah, this "one-hand" thing was a very weak argument, in-fact your thumb seems to be able to reach over far more easily than it does up. It was purely down to retina + apps and having to redo everything. There is no way Jony Ive is proud of that elongated shape. He loves his Golden Ratios and the iPhone 5 is well off visually.
 
Not the iPhone 4? Gee, 5MP must be too low-res for panorama, but 8MP is just fine. :rolleyes:
I'm not upset about this, but any excuses other than "Apple wants you to buy the new phone." will be funny to see. They're giving me a free OS update.

From a quick scan of the Compare iPhones page on the Apple site, the rear camera of the iPhone 5 has the exact same specs as the one on the iPhone 4S, with the one in the iPhone 4 being (obviously) different. It could be as simple as "same hardware, same feature". Maybe with a touch of "enough processing power" tossed in.

Why no Siri on the iPhone 4 or 3GS? Siri requires the 2nd core for the background Wolfram Alpha processing. Only the A5 and above have multi-cores.

I went up and down the spec sheet and read the model disclaimers for the iOS 6 features. It mapped out pretty consistently. I found no place where a feature was not available where there was equivolent hardware.
 
They probably made the nano longer again because they are working on a seperate watch version.
 
I thought the entire event was slightly disappointing. IMHO Apple shouldn't be spending time to talk about earplugs and new connectors. These are trivial details. As for the iPhone 5 presentation, in itself it wasn't so bad. The problem, however, is that most of what was presented had already been leaked via MR and others. Apple should have included at least one big "surprise".

Despite the lack of "wow factor" during the event, I do however commend Apple for its integrity. What Nokia did with the Lumia 920 is simply unacceptable. The shape of the iPhone 5 may seem a bit odd to some, but at least it's not vaporware like the Lumia 920. In addition, the iPhone 5 seems to be extremely well built and engineered. With time, I think it's a piece of equipment that many doubters will adopt. Personally I'm excited about LTE and the performance enchancements of the newer processors (my iPhone 4 is sometimes a bit laggy). Along with the new IOS features, it's a welcome upgrade.
 
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Not the iPhone 4? Gee, 5MP must be too low-res for panorama, but 8MP is just fine. :rolleyes:
I'm not upset about this, but any excuses other than "Apple wants you to buy the new phone." will be funny to see. They're giving me a free OS update.

I had panorama mode on a Nokia about 7 years ago.

Well Done Apple.
 
What Tim Cook should have done before the conference:

Tim: Siri, what is the thinnest smartphone in the world?
Siri: The Oppo Finder

Tim: How many smartphones out there are thinner than 7.6 mm?
Siri: More than 5.

Tim: Shhhh------t


Note: I don't care if iPhone 5 is the thinnest smartphone or not, but I care when Apple claims things that are simply untrue
 
A friend on another forum -- non-Apple-related -- who knows that I am a keen Apple fan asked today if I were excited about the new iPhone 5. I responded quite honestly and as I was doing so realized just how much I still miss Steve Jobs. The keynote presentations, no matter how great (or not-so-great) the product, are just not the same without him.

FWIW, this is what I had written on the other forum:

Actually....to be honest, no, not as much as I would like to be. One reason is because so many of the new features and such were already guessed-at on the various forums, which then takes away the surprise element which is usually part of the fun. Nonetheless, I will be preordering and/or standing in line to get one, though, as my iPhone 4 is starting to show its age a bit in terms of battery life and such. Some features on the new iPhone such as Siri, I'll never use, and that's fine, no biggie. Other features and functionality will be welcomed, such as the faster speeds due to both a faster processor and the implementation of LTE, which I already have on my third-gen iPad. Definitely the 8 mp camera on this thing will be nice to have. No need to buy a P&S camera ever again (not that I was planning to do so anyway) -- the truism about "the camera you have with you gets the shots"....comes into play here, as I always have my iPhone with me, even when not carrying a camera in addition. The new iPhone looks and sounds great, has some features which I'll really appreciate, but I have to admit that, yeah, I'm not all that excited about it.

One huge reason I think I was just not excited at today's keynote is....well....for me, the magic is gone. Really. First of all, this is no longer a brand-new totally innovative product, it's simply an upgrade to something we've had for several years now. Heck, everyone and his uncle or aunt has an iPhone now. An upgrade to the product....great. Exciting? Uh...not so much so. That aside, though, more importantly: no one, and I mean NO ONE, can ever arouse the level of enthusiasm and excitement about an Apple product the way Steve Jobs could. His "reality distortion field" had the viewer/listener wrapped around his little finger in nothing flat. His charisma, his ability to charm everyone into seeing the magic of whatever new Apple product he was talking about is just not there any more. I really missed him today and I'll bet I am far from the only one who did. Sure, Tim, Eddy, Jony, Bob, whoever else, some whose names I don't recall now, all did their best today to demonstrate and really promote the latest products (iPhone 5, new versions of iPods, iOS 6) but, sad to say, it's just not the same, nor will it ever be again. I am so happy that I at least had some years of being able to enjoy the full "Apple experience," the full Steve Jobs experience......and that I got to see and hear him in person at MacWorld in 2006.


It's incredible not just how emotional people get about a phone, but how 'keen apple fans' feel the need to write an essay about the impact that such devices/products might or might not have on their lives. I'm not taking the pi55 here - knock yourself out - just try to remember; it's just a phone. If you don't need it don't buy it. If you don't want it, don't buy it. If it isn't everything you'd hoped for, get over it.
Announcements like this are doomed to failure simply because the insane level of entitlement/expectation from 'fans'. When that expected hit isn't delivered, people seem to crumble and get themselves down. And falling in love with the way an enormous company like Apple sell you things, and market at you as part of the experience is needy and a little bit weird.
I'll say it again: It's just a phone. Apple released it, showed it to us, and told us what it does. Your assessment of how that announcement has underwhelmed you, but you'll still buy it really just sounds like a cry for help.
And One More Thing...
I'm guessing Apple won't be too worried about the tragic loss of their magic, and their desperate struggle without Steve Jobs' presentation to snag customers, when after all you will be "preordering and/or standing in line to get one"!!
I think that's some voodoo.
 
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