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Why PC Free? Not Mac free? Or computer-free?

Apple is calling these Post-PC (as in any personal computer) devices.

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You people! You people! What do you mean by "you people"?
 
Given the trends in PC sales, being PC free will be especially appreciated by Windows users.

Not to mention Lion will be $30 and Windows is well over $100.

I think due to how crappy Itunes runs on windows many windows users will like this. But they still need iTunes. iTunes is the major reason I don't want an iPhone. It does not play well with a gaming rig. A ********* gaming rig.

Most windows 7 users won't upgrade. So it doesn't matter. I only upgrade when I buy a new Motherboard.
 
Having used this for a few hours now, I've got to say the last time I saw an update to iOS that felt this important and significant was the introduction of the App Store.

You can hold your iPhones up high. Android has *nothing* on this. Better maps I guess, but that's it.
 
So does this mean the 30 pin connector is on it's way out? Perhaps to be replaced with a mag safe type connector?

Not any time soon. The 30 pin connector is supported by the accessory API and ditching it would break a lot of third party accessories.
 
Having used this for a few hours now, I've got to say the last time I saw an update to iOS that felt this important and significant was the introduction of the App Store.

You can hold your iPhones up high. Android has *nothing* on this. Better maps I guess, but that's it.

Uhh android has had this feature since day one. Remember Android doesn't need syncing software. And if someone wanted to they could use double twist which also had a wireless sync for some time. I have to say apple has added nothing new this time.
 
The only potential issue I see with this is a situation my parents might have. They'd love an iPad, but understand that they can't use it with their current computer (an old G4 iBook). iOS5 will solve that, and I can see an iPad2 (or 3) becoming a replacement for the iBook, which is starting to slow.

Problem is: If they get rid of the iBook, what do they do if their local (home) wifi goes down, or they have to set up a new modem or router? Without being able to set up a hard connection (Ethernet) for troubleshooting, this would seem to limit their accessibility. Am I missing something?
 
Well how will this work..

I currently share an itunes account with my brother, it saves us having to buy and download two apps that are the same. With this iOS 5 update, im not quite sure how this will work.. Might it be possible to use multiple accounts, say for example, one for syncing documents, pictures, etc. and one for apps??
 
Uhh android has had this feature since day one. Remember Android doesn't need syncing software. And if someone wanted to they could use double twist which also had a wireless sync for some time. I have to say apple has added nothing new this time.

I don't disagree with you, except for the not adding something new part. One of Android's greatest strengths was Google's cloud computing. The single sign on giving you access to email and contacts and all that. Apple has surpassed them, however, with the iCloud APIs baked into all their OSes.

This is going to be huge.
 
Most all home internet is capped now but it's usually between 200 and 300 gigs. Why in the world is yours 30?

I don't know where gigemzach lives, but here in Québec, if your ISP is Télébec and you're on the 2Mbps or 5Mbps cable modem (I think the 8Mbps too), your monthly cap is 35GB. That's 35GB total, upload+download combined.

And if your ISP is Télébec, it means you're more than likely in a region where there is only Télébec, no other choice for your ISP.
 
Wow! Amazing! Revolutionary! Original! Apple now has a NEW feature that allows you to setup your phone WITHOUT a computer!

This is why I LOVE Apple!
 
Does anyone know if you will be able to use multiple account from one iDevice?

Let's say you take your new iPhone out of the box and it's on iOS 5. You sign in with your ID and set up without a PC. Can you "log out" from your ID at some point and hand the device off to a friend who also has an Apple ID?

Just curious how this would work with data providers. I can see it being no problem at all with a wifi only device, but with an iPhone on 3G someone is getting the bill. Since our Apple ID's are independent from our service providers I was just wondering if/how this might go down.
 
Wow! Amazing! Revolutionary! Original! Apple now has a NEW feature that allows you to setup your phone WITHOUT a computer!

This is why I LOVE Apple!

You're looking at it backwards. That improvement to the end user is a consequence of the incredible infrastructure Apple has built. No, it isn't necessary to build something like that just to free a phone from requiring a PC to tether to. But in this case it's just a very simple thing you get "for free" because of it.

It's hard for many to see what iCloud really is right now, even in the context of WWDC. It's sort of like someone just unveiled a massive nationwide network of railroad tracks to a country that hasn't heard of trains.

The small little use cases we've seen so far are just sort of the morning dew collecting on top of a colossal rocket that is just getting ready to be fired up.
 
It's hard for many to see what iCloud really is right now, even in the context of WWDC. It's sort of like someone just unveiled a massive nationwide network of railroad tracks to a country that hasn't heard of trains.

best analogy for a lot of people on here. that is exactly what we're looking at right now.
 
I like it. The people spoke and Apple listened. Or they just used common sense. :) :apple:
 
best analogy for a lot of people on here. that is exactly what we're looking at right now.

As an aside, I also find it interesting how Apple has decided to describe iCloud in the developer APIs - they don't use the word "cloud" in the method and library names, they use "Ubiquitous" and "Ubiquity".

Your data is now ubiquitous. It is yours, and it is everywhere. It's not on any one device or in any one location. But it is yours and it is accessible all the time.
 
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