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How insane is it that this thread has to be in a special section dedicated to political news.

We are one dumb Trump tweet away from having to put all Macrumors stories in the same forum.
 
It is against the law to walk nude in a mall (in most places). Is it against the law to not wear a mask?
In some places. All the stores and building in my area have "State Order required to wear a mask" sign, not technically a law, but can go to jail for it, and people have. And my point is, that its not a violation of a freedom.
 
Yeah, not where I live. There is no government order.

Here, we have the freedom of choice. And nobody gets mocked on either side for their choice.

What an embarrassing analogy
I'm not saying everywhere, I'm saying that in some-places it is an order, and its not a violation of any freedom. And it's not an analogy.
 
So you don’t deny it was embarrassing?
No, why would that be embarrassing, it was just a fact? Being required to wear a mask is a dress code. It's clothing you're required to wear. Your attempt at what ever it is you're trying to do is embarrassing.
 
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How insane is it that this thread has to be in a special section dedicated to political news.

We are one dumb Trump tweet away from having to put all Macrumors stories in the same forum.


But for some reason, people just can't seem to leave it alone.

One of the reasons for the insanity is posts like yours. You can't seem to point out the insanity without participating in it yourself by mentioning politics.
 
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These things are going to be super expensive 100 years from now. Like a piece of history.
 
It’s freedom of choice. I choose not to wear it, and if you’re wearing one - I frankly don’t care. You’re free to wear one, just as I am free to not.

With freedom comes responsibility, which is something never acknowledged by the free of die crowd.

So until you can promise me you will never exhale and spread your viral burden (be it a coronavirus, an adenovirus, an influenza virus, et.)you are infringing on my life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.
 
It’s freedom of choice. I choose not to wear it, and if you’re wearing one - I frankly don’t care. You’re free to wear one, just as I am free to not.
Except that it’s not a freedom of choice. You do wear pants in the streets, don’t you? Not by choice but because no one wants to see your... You see, in a society, you have to play by the rules. And when the rules change to save lives, you adapt. And if you don’t want adapt, you stay home where you can leave your mask and pants off.
 
With freedom comes responsibility, which is something never acknowledged by the free of die crowd.

So until you can promise me you will never exhale and spread your viral burden (be it a coronavirus, an adenovirus, an influenza virus, et.)you are infringing on my life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.

With freedom comes responsibility, which is something never acknowledged by the “you must do as I do” crowd.

So until you can promise me you will wash your hands before putting on your mask, never touching your mask, never touching anything else (because that will encourage spread), and ensuring all your clothing you wear while out in public has been 100% UV sanitized prior...you are infringing on my life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.
 
Except that it’s not a freedom of choice. You do wear pants in the streets, don’t you? Not by choice but because no one wants to see your... You see, in a society, you have to play by the rules. And when the rules change to save lives, you adapt. And if you don’t want adapt, you stay home where you can leave your mask and pants off.

Not everyone lives in a liberal lockdown state as you.

Here, there is no requirement to wear masks. And nobody else is mocking the other side for their choice....as you are doing now.
 
Think of all the employees that will be sacked when they get caught selling them to fanboys on eBay.
 
So you're saying its ok for me to walk nude through a mall even if the government says it's not ok? A mask is just a piece of clothing and being required to wear one is just dress code, which is not a freedom mentioned in any constitution.
So I guess we should have the freedom to choose whether we get infected by virus or not. I’m not sure how that works out.
 
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It’s freedom of choice. I choose not to wear it, and if you’re wearing one - I frankly don’t care. You’re free to wear one, just as I am free to not.
Except that that's not how it works when it comes to dealing with something like a pandemic.
Sad that we live in a time where something as innocuous as wearing a mask is politicized.
Who did that? None of the comments here have politicized mask wearing so far. Some are funny, some complimentary..

Personally, I'm not interested in one that's not a "Woz" signature edition. And I can't wear it at work. We're mandated to wear the KN95 issued anyway....
You're the first one to mention politics in this thread.
How insane is it that this thread has to be in a special section dedicated to political news.

We are one dumb Trump tweet away from having to put all Macrumors stories in the same forum.
It's the sad reality that is also demonstrated by where some of the posts end up going in threads of this nature.
 
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It's a sad commentary on the idiocy of a large percentage of the American people that this article had to be labeled "political." Would this also happen for an article about a new app that helps the user keep track of his/lher vaccination record? New Zealand is beginning to look like a more attractive place to live.
 
Except that that's not how it works when it comes to dealing with something like a pandemic.



It's the sad reality that is also demonstrated by where some of the posts end up going in threads of this nature.
Except that’s how it works where I live. It’s as if there is no pandemic here.

but I get it, some people just love drama and make believe fear.
 
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The fogging issue is something that someone needs to invent something to avoid, that's my biggest complaint. I typically just end up wearing a N95 mask everywhere I go because they don't fog up.
That isn't a function of it being N95, it's a function of the mask having a proper nose piece (usually wire or a thin strip of metal). You bend it to conform closely around your nose, and it keeps the air from escaping up around your nose, and thus prevents fogging. There's a lot of other masks that accomplish this (Vogmasks are quite nice). The masks my sister-in-law makes (based on the ragmask pattern) accomplish this perfectly well, with a slot on the top edge for a piece of copper wire.

Most commercial N95 masks have a vent, which is great if you're, say, sanding something and trying to avoid breathing the dust, but kind of defeats the purpose for pandemic use, since your breath flows out freely through the vent. Unless you tape over the vent from the inside.
 
Except that’s how it works where I live. It’s as if there is no pandemic here.

but I get it, some people just love drama and make believe fear.
If reality is ignored pretty much anything can go. Reality remains what it is nevertheless and speaks for itself.
 
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Corona isn't gone, so I think that we are all stuck with masks in public for like a year, I suppose.

They would most likely make it mandatory forever to reduce deaths from other viruses like the flu. That's why Apple got into this new normal and very lucrative business.
 
That isn't a function of it being N95, it's a function of the mask having a proper nose piece (usually wire or a thin strip of metal). You bend it to conform closely around your nose, and it keeps the air from escaping up around your nose, and thus prevents fogging. There's a lot of other masks that accomplish this (Vogmasks are quite nice). The masks my sister-in-law makes (based on the ragmask pattern) accomplish this perfectly well, with a slot on the top edge for a piece of copper wire.

Most commercial N95 masks have a vent, which is great if you're, say, sanding something and trying to avoid breathing the dust, but kind of defeats the purpose for pandemic use, since your breath flows out freely through the vent. Unless you tape over the vent from the inside.

Oh I understand it's not a function of the N95 mask, well it is but it doesn't necessarily do it better than a non N95 mask. I've just not found any that perform any better than my N95 masks, I've tried at least a dozen different ones, all of them with metal strips. I will look into those Vogmasks though, hopefully they fit the bill. FYI be careful of the vented N95 masks, they are not designed for healthcare use and can be a risk factor for a few different reasons.
 
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