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Video Shows Size of 12.2-Inch 'iPad Air Plus' Mockup Next to iPhones, iPads, and MacBook

thiagos said:
I truly hope Apple will use Yosemite as the OS for this tablet. I presume the 12" iPad would be a competitor to Microsoft Surface line. Nobody needs a 12" regular iPad without making it as useful as a laptop.
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This has been time and time again discredited. If App developers can utilize the extra space, the iPad plus will not need OS X.
 
Michael Goff said:
I think he's saying that, at this point, the iPad could be as powerful as it wants but it won't have much use. If that changed, then that'd be great for competition. It hasn't yet, though.
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In the future...

The future that seems to be getting faster and faster and closer and closer, everyday! :)
 
flavr said:
Im reading these comments and I am astonished how shortsighted they all are! This is the first step in the convergence of the laptop and the tablet, nothing could be more exciting. This will run a version of OSx/iOS and be quite powerful. Laptops as we know them today won't exist in a few years and this is the first step. You people need to open up your minds a bit more, sheesh!! You are embarrassing yourselves.
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"You can converge a toaster and a refrigerator, but those things are not going to be pleasing to the user." -- Tim Cook

http://www.macworld.com/article/209...he-mac-at-30-the-mac-keeps-going-forever.html

“The reason OS X has a different interface than iOS isn’t because one came after the other or because this one’s old and this one’s new,” Federighi said. Instead, it’s because using a mouse and keyboard just isn’t the same as tapping with your finger. “This device,” Federighi said, pointing at a MacBook Air screen, “has been honed over 30 years to be optimal” for keyboards and mice. Schiller and Federighi both made clear that Apple believes that competitors who try to attach a touchscreen to a PC or a clamshell keyboard onto a tablet are barking up the wrong tree.

“It’s obvious and easy enough to slap a touchscreen on a piece of hardware, but is that a good experience?” Federighi said. “We believe, no.”

“We don’t waste time thinking, ‘But it should be one [interface]!’ How do you make these [operating systems] merge together?’ What a waste of energy that would be,” Schiller said. But he added that the company definitely tries to smooth out bumps in the road that make it difficult for its customers to switch between a Mac and an iOS device—for example, making sure its messaging and calendaring apps have the same name on both OS X and iOS.

“To say [OS X and iOS] should be the same, independent of their purpose? Let’s just converge, for the sake of convergence? [It’s] absolutely a nongoal,” Federighi said. “You don’t want to say the Mac became less good at being a Mac because someone tried to turn it into iOS. At the same time, you don’t want to feel like iOS was designed by [one] company and Mac was designed by [a different] company, and they’re different for reasons of lack of common vision. We have a common sense of aesthetics, a common set of principles that drive us, and we’re building the best products we can for their unique purposes. So you’ll see them be the same where that makes sense, and you’ll see them be different in those things that are critical to their essence.”
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If they want it to succeed and remain geared towards professionals, they've got to make it more competitive with the new Surface line. A pen tool is a necessity. One that actually works right. A keyboard made by Apple wouldn't be a bad idea since typing on an iPad is really not all that great if you are trying to do it for work. I know how to type very fast, but on a real, physical keyboard that I can feel. Typing on an iPad is like playing. i dunno. I think it's way past time for a a pro iPad but they have to do it right.
 
IPAD 12 INCH main advantages

1 - Magazines all around the world use this format . so when you read a magazine you don't need to zoom anymore to read every time .

2- when travelling how many people are watching movies on their ipad ? what is better to watch it on 9.7 or 12 inch?

3- when browsing the internet . No need to zoom anymore

4- many editing applications need more space to have more buttons without cropping the image

5- WHY EVERYONE IS BUYING THE IPHONE 6 ?

WHY EVERYONE IS BUYING BIG TV SETS ? ten years ago everyone who would buy a tv more than 50 inch would be ridiculous . now 65 inch are standards

So yes Bigger IS BETTER
:)

PS:this is my first post on macrumors .
 
Chad-VI said:
I don't get the point of it. Some are saying that it's a pro tablet for those who need an OS X tablet with a stylus. But Apple clearly said that they won't merge OS X and iOS , and we all know what apple thinks of the stylus since the intro of the original iPhone back in 2007.
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Steve was trash talking the stylus as the primary mode of interaction. That's completely different to using a stylus for artistic work or note taking. Apple has lots of patent applications for a stylus.
 
macduke said:
I've mentioned this in another thread about a month ago, but here is a mockup that I made. I think that the Pro might have a 16:10 ratio. It makes 12.2" not as huge. Furthermore, 16:10 is what MacBooks generally use and it's better for productivity because it gives you space for toolbars on the sides without making it unwieldy. I think back when I first made this mockup I calculated that the 16:10 ratio reduces the surface area of the devices by around 7% compared to 4:3 at the same 12.2" diagonal. If developers are going to have to redo their apps for the Pro anyway, then changing the ratio doesn't hurt as much. Existing iPad apps can still run letterboxed, like Apple did on the iPhone 5 when there weren't any optimized apps yet. And as I've mentioned in other threads, I still think it's weird that the rumored retina MBA is supposed to also be 12", leading me to wonder if this is some type of convergence devices that snaps into a keyboard frame and morphs from a touch based to mouse based UI when connected.
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If you use the iPad in landscape mode yeah but sheet music, drawing and painting, reading magazines and so on all of that requires portrait mode. So widescreen would feel bad in the hands.
 
macduke said:
I've mentioned this in another thread about a month ago, but here is a mockup that I made. I think that the Pro might have a 16:10 ratio. It makes 12.2" not as huge. Furthermore, 16:10 is what MacBooks generally use and it's better for productivity because it gives you space for toolbars on the sides without making it unwieldy. I think back when I first made this mockup I calculated that the 16:10 ratio reduces the surface area of the devices by around 7% compared to 4:3 at the same 12.2" diagonal. If developers are going to have to redo their apps for the Pro anyway, then changing the ratio doesn't hurt as much. Existing iPad apps can still run letterboxed, like Apple did on the iPhone 5 when there weren't any optimized apps yet. And as I've mentioned in other threads, I still think it's weird that the rumored retina MBA is supposed to also be 12", leading me to wonder if this is some type of convergence devices that snaps into a keyboard frame and morphs from a touch based to mouse based UI when connected.
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16:10 would also make media consumption such as watching movies, a complete joy! I love this idea...
 
mattoligy said:
In the future...

The future that seems to be getting faster and faster and closer and closer, everyday! :)
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You're missing my point. Aside from a poorly coded Safari, nothing is anywhere near using the A8X in terms of computing needs. And unless that changes, it's pointless power. Apple could just release there next iPad as slightly more powerful and immensely better with battery, and people wouldn't be wanting for power.
 
hm... just fix touch-enabled versions of Abelton Live, Logic Pro, Max/Msp and Reaktor and we're might be able to actually use something like this...

iOS got a lot of apps, but the real fun stuff IMHO is still mac OS X only...
 
Codyak said:
I don't know about tons but at the very least, pressing from behind can cause distortion. Not a dealbreaker for me but still a sign in my opinion that the thing is pointlessly thin.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1808921/
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The iPad Air had the same issue because of how thin they are. I tested it on both devices and it's replicable. But in a real usage situation you're really never going to apply point pressure on the back of your device to see the distortion, especially if you have a case... To me it's almost less of a concern than bend-gate.
 
Rogifan said:
"You can converge a toaster and a refrigerator, but those things are not going to be pleasing to the user." -- Tim Cook

http://www.macworld.com/article/209...he-mac-at-30-the-mac-keeps-going-forever.html
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i have yet to hear anyone saying that merging the two OSes would be a benefit to anyone. i really wonder where this speculation even came from, and why apple execs even felt the need to address the notion. anyone know? i don't feel like there was this big wave of general opinions to this effect.

if you thought about it for more than two seconds i think nearly anyone would know that switching between iOS and OSX would be far more logical and productive than some weird hybrid. if they can reduce boot times to 3-5 seconds i think it could be a dream - and i don't think this type of functionality would qualify as part of the 'convergence' argument - wherever that came from.
 
mattoligy said:
Maybe the larger iPad will be what changes that...
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And I hope it does. Apple, and ARM in general, had been improving faster than the needs for it have on the consumer side. Compare that to desktop CPU and GPU that will almost always have a game they can't max out, unless you're really throwing down the cash.
 
Zelmung said:
The iPad Air had the same issue because of how thin they are. I tested it on both devices and it's replicable. But in a real usage situation you're really never going to apply point pressure on the back of your device to see the distortion, especially if you have a case... To me it's almost less of a concern than bend-gate.
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I just put my finger to my HP laptop screen and without applying much pressure I got distortion. Same thing with my flat screen TV. I've been using my iPad Air 2 for almost a month and until it was pointed out today I never noticed this distortion.
 
Wiesenlooser said:
That bezel is too large. It should have the same size bezels as the ipad air, not bigger.
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Yes, it looks like they just scaled up the Air to mock up the larger model, when the bezels will probably be the same size.
 
Unless it's a surface-type device that combines OS X and iOS, that size kind of defeats the purpose of a tablet. I love the size of the Air. Maybe I could go within 0.5" bigger, but I know that many people have wanted this.

Heck, I may even want this after Apple casts its marketing spell on me.
 
teslo said:
i have yet to hear anyone saying that merging the two OSes would be a benefit to anyone. i really wonder where this speculation even came from, and why apple execs even felt the need to address the notion. anyone know? i don't feel like there was this big wave of general opinions to this effect.

if you thought about it for more than two seconds i think nearly anyone would know that switching between iOS and OSX would be far more logical and productive than some weird hybrid. if they can reduce boot times to 3-5 seconds i think it could be a dream - and i don't think this type of functionality would qualify as part of the 'convergence' argument - wherever that came from.
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Apple was responding to Windows 2-in-1 devices and the notion that they need to do something similar. Seems to me what Apple announced at WWDC gives a good indication of where they're heading and I don't think it results in an OS X tablet.
 
*IF* its going to be that large, make it like 4 millimeters thick so it can fit into a notebook. Otherwise, it seems massive to me.
 
flavr said:
Im reading these comments and I am astonished how shortsighted they all are! This is the first step in the convergence of the laptop and the tablet, nothing could be more exciting. This will run a version of OSx/iOS and be quite powerful. Laptops as we know them today won't exist in a few years and this is the first step. You people need to open up your minds a bit more, sheesh!! You are embarrassing yourselves.
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This!

Apple is thinking beyond what we have in stores now to find the next big thing. You honestly think the tablet as it currently exists can continue to sell like hotcakes in the next 5 years unless something innovative comes out? Why would you want/need an iPad 10 if it's just a slightly faster/lighter/thinner iPad Air 2?? Seriously.

Take a look around the market outside of the Apple store. Hybrids are where it's going now and if Apple's history is anything to look upon, they will do their best at taking that model and perfecting it and then everyone will forget about the devices that their competition tried to sell before it.

If Apple can pull this off, I'm in. I've been looking for a device that I can replace my aging iMac with. This just might be it - a tablet and all-in-one Mac combined.

http://www.dell.com/us/p/xps-18-1810/pd?ref=PD_OC
 
Great, a 12 inch app launcher.

I don't know why this is referred to as the ipad "pro" by some. There is nothing "pro" about an OS designed so that grandma doesn't get confused.
 
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