Videos: death grip on EVO, Droid Incredible, Nexus One, Galaxy 1, G1, etc.

[dogie678]

Videos: death grip on EVO, Droid X, Droid Incredible, Nexus One, Galaxy 1, G1, etc.

Droid X: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFc9vnocIzQ

* Samsung I9000 Galaxy S: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LROTHrTR92k

* HTC Evo Signal Attenuation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pj2YBYTbag

* Samsung Galaxy 1:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

* Samsung Galaxy 2:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPCQdYtPihg

* Droid Incredible: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaDE941PzQk

* Droid Incredible (With Network Extender in Room): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpEQH9_A5jw&feature=related

* Nexus One: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEIA_lMwqJA

* Nexus One vs. iPhone (start at 1:29): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvMoV4_C4aA

* Nexus One: http://posterous.com/getfile/files.p...n_-_iPhone.m4v

* Nexus One (after Google's update to correct): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2g5J4qPp54

* Nexus One: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deCkjeHYT-g

* Android G1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CDaxhjUs9M

* "Major signal degradation when Nexus One is picked up" (N1 Thread on On this Problem): http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=34ae2c179184c33e&hl=en

 

[topmounter]

Without seeing this post I would have never realized my Nexus One had this
issue. Will HTC have a press conference next week to address this MOST
serious OMG issue? Is HTC going to buy me a case? Will Google refund my money?

WHY CAN'T HTC JUST MAKE A PHONE THAT WORKS!!11!!111!!

I think I'm going to cry, this is the worst day of my life.



LL

 

[SiskoKid]

Uh oh! That Samsung Galaxy video was removed by the user!!! lol

Seems like Samsung's getting nervous

 

[.Andy]

Steve Jobs, June
The iphone 4 antenna is "brilliant engineering".

Steve Jobs, July
Don't be so harsh the iphone 4 antenna has the same problems as other smart phones. And it drops slightly more calls than the 3GS.

 

[SiskoKid]

Steve Jobs, June
The iphone 4 antenna is "brilliant engineering".

Steve Jobs, July
Don't be so harsh the iphone 4 antenna has the same problems as other smart phones. And it drops slightly more calls than the 3GS.

You're changing the subject. And, yes, it is brilliant engineering. It looks beautiful and works just as well as other phones. And it far exceeds previous iPhone reception.

 

[dogie678]

hey siskoKid, i'm putting this thing in my sig. you should do the same!

 

[heavy2healthy]

You're changing the subject. And, yes, it is brilliant engineering. It looks beautiful and works just as well as other phones. And it far exceeds previous iPhone reception.

Actually he isnt. When you grandstand and say we are so far ahead of everyone else. Then you cant use the excuse all of them do that.

 

[Loiterer]

I tested the Evo out for a month before I got my iPhone, and I can confirm that I could drop the signal by wrapping my hand across the top, though it never dropped a call. But I don't think anyone's even arguing that other phones don't do it, only that the iPhone has a larger attenuation, as Anandtech stated.

 

[SiskoKid]

Actually he isnt. When you grandstand and say we are so far ahead of everyone else. Then you cant use the excuse all of them do that.

Then that's a matter of opinion, and it's also changing the subject.

The TRUTH is that Steve today was being honest and this issue affects all phones.

Sorry to break it to you You can keep tying to change the subject, but this is the last comment I'll make on this. You can make a new thread if you wanna talk about it.

 

[SiskoKid]

hey siskoKid, i'm putting this thing in my sig. you should do the same!

Done

 

[ChocolateApple]

Been posting this everywhere for the last half hour! I can't believe I didn't make a thread about it lol!

This should be stickied and on the front page so we can move on from this ridiculous BS.

Exactly. I just started a thread because CBS Nightly News didn't bother to thoroughly cover that part of Apple's address today. They put more into the negative reporting (dropped stock, Consumer Reports, Letterman) and negative user feedback (of 2 people), glossing over these other death grip videos.

 

[Jordan921]

Haters gonna hate.

 

[dojoman]

Steve Jobs, June
The iphone 4 antenna is "brilliant engineering".

Steve Jobs, July
Don't be so harsh the iphone 4 antenna has the same problems as other smart phones. And it drops slightly more calls than the 3GS.

iPhone 4 antenna is actually better than 3GS because you're actually getting better signal except with death grip of course.

 

[dogie678]

Remember. 90% of people bitching about the iPhone 4 are ANDROID TROLLS.

 

[asleep]

Without having to watch them all, does each phone lose signal when gripped in left hand?

 

[dogie678]

Without having to watch them all, does each phone lose signal when gripped in left hand?

we posted the youtube links so we wont have to answer your question. watch it.

 

[xtend]

Haters gonna hate.

not bad.. but with picture would have been more epic

 

[RipplingHurst]

I don't think it matters if somebody else screw up really.

I didn't have ANY issue with my 3G. I still have my wife's and I can test them side by side. There is no way to "death grip" and choke the 3G. Try it. Apple at it's best.

One would expect that the iP4 would be at least as good, if not better. It's not.

 

[kre62]

Unfortunately, as much as you want it to be, this is not the same issue as the iPhone4. Sorry. iPhone4 has a unique issue dealing with signal attenuation by shorting the antennae, not simple attenuation by blocking with the hand.

Videos: death grip on EVO, Droid Incredible, Nexus One, Galaxy 1, G1, etc.


* Samsung I9000 Galaxy S: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LROTHrTR92k

* HTC Evo Signal Attenuation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pj2YBYTbag

* Samsung Galaxy 1:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

* Samsung Galaxy 2:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPCQdYtPihg

* Droid Incredible: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaDE941PzQk

* Droid Incredible (With Network Extender in Room): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpEQH9_A5jw&feature=related

* Nexus One: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEIA_lMwqJA

* Nexus One vs. iPhone (start at 1:29): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvMoV4_C4aA

* Nexus One: http://posterous.com/getfile/files.p...n_-_iPhone.m4v

* Nexus One (after Google's update to correct): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2g5J4qPp54

* Nexus One: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deCkjeHYT-g

* Android G1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CDaxhjUs9M

* "Major signal degradation when Nexus One is picked up" (N1 Thread on On this Problem): http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=34ae2c179184c33e&hl=en

 

[foot56]

The problem is I can cause my iphone to drop bars and data simply my touching the left side no “death grip” needed. Matter of fact this was brought up during the Q and A today and the answer provided did not answer the question. lol

"Ryan from gdgt: You showed people almost covering the entire phone in their hand, but on the iPhone 4 it can happen with just a touch. Can you explain that difference?
Bob: When you touch the phone, you put yourself between the signal and your phone, so when you touch that spot you can attenuate the signal, and if you grip it with your whole hand, you can attenuate it even more. We don't build phones with an antenna on top..."

 

[RipplingHurst]

The problem is I can cause my iphone to drop bars and data simply my touching the left side no “death grip” needed. Matter of fact this was brought up during the Q and A today and the answer provided did not answer the question. lol

"Ryan from gdgt: You showed people almost covering the entire phone in their hand, but on the iPhone 4 it can happen with just a touch. Can you explain that difference?
Bob: When you touch the phone, you put yourself between the signal and your phone, so when you touch that spot you can attenuate the signal, and if you grip it with your whole hand, you can attenuate it even more. We don't build phones with an antenna on top..."

True, I don't need to cover the iP4 much. Just grabbing it with my left hand, or in landscape mode, holding it like I would any similar device, like the PSP. Sometimes with your right hand, sometimes with your left. It's really disappointing.

I really thought Apple would come up with some form of coating, like those rubbery liquid insulation, only transparent, to be applied at the store, something like that. Just a dab at the right spot. That would be GENIUS.

Alas, not this time. Instead they showed that pretty annoying antenna video. I'm so pissed at that video, worse, at the choice to put and endorse that message...

Really disappointed.

 

[SiskoKid]

Unfortunately, as much as you want it to be, this is not the same issue as the iPhone4. Sorry. iPhone4 has a unique issue dealing with signal attenuation by shorting the antennae, not simple attenuation by blocking with the hand.

If the antenna was shorted then that would mean the phone wouldn't work at all for anyone. Period. That's obviously not the case.

Also, the gap doesn't matter because the metal bands surrounding the phone are parts of the antenna. Meaning, even if you don't touch the gap, you're STILL bridging the antennae which would mean the antennae would short constantly. Meaning, again, the phone wouldn't work.

So, no, it's not shorting. You just have bad signal in your area and, like all phones, if you grip it it drops signal. You just have to have enough signal that it doesn't drop your call.

 

[lilo777]

Apple fanboys are out encouraged by their leader

You genius, please show me one video where any phone (but iPhone 4) drops 3 bars when touched by one finger. Bumper for you, real phone for me.

 

[anjinha]

You genius, please show me one video where any phone (but iPhone 4) drops 3 bars when touched by one finger. Bumper for you, real phone for me.

For me the iPhone 4 doesn't drop 3 bars just by touching it with one finger either, only with the "death grip".

 

[kre62]

You know, if you don't like the term "shorting the antennae" fine, lets not use it. What ever happens to the antennae causes a measured 24db decrease in signal. The instant that line is bridged by anything conductive, it results in a 24db decrease. This does not happen on any other phone.

If the antenna was shorted then that would mean the phone wouldn't work at all for anyone. Period. That's obviously not the case.

Also, the gap doesn't matter because the metal bands surrounding the phone are parts of the antenna. Meaning, even if you don't touch the gap, you're STILL bridging the antennae which would mean the antennae would short constantly. Meaning, again, the phone wouldn't work.

So, no, it's not shorting. You just have bad signal in your area and, like all phones, if you grip it it drops signal. You just have to have enough signal that it doesn't drop your call.