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You know, if you don't like the term "shorting the antennae" fine, lets not use it. What ever happens to the antennae causes a measured 24db decrease in signal. The instant that line is bridged by anything conductive, it results in a 24db decrease. This does not happen on any other phone.

Well, I can't do it just by touching it with my finger and why should I care if it happens when I do it with a metal object?
 
Not going to watch all the videos as I am on my phone but does any of them drop signal with just one finger like the iohone4 does?

Obviously OP and other will not answer that question. ;)

Has anyone watched the conference video? Apple removed the entire Q&A session because some of the questions are simply embarrassing, and Steve & Co. tried to spin their way out.
 
It will drop them. Steve Jobs confirmed it today. You just have not tried it yet in the areas with weak signal.

Do you people read the posts you reply to? I said it doesn't drop the signal when I just bridge the two antennas, it does it when I hold it with the "death grip".


Ya, rly:

For me the iPhone 4 doesn't drop 3 bars just by touching it with one finger either, only with the "death grip".
 
Do you people read the posts you reply to? I said it doesn't drop the signal when I just bridge the two antennas, it does it when I hold it with the "death grip".



Ya, rly:

You're probably doing it wrong. Or maybe in a high signal area, and the 24db attenuation doesn't cause you to drop too much. Or hell, maybe you do have a fluke phone. But its still a big issue.
 
.55% iPhone 4 owners complained

1.77% returned



Only a small number of people are affected OR care a about this issue.

99% of the people complaining about this are Android trolls. :cool:
 
You're probably doing it wrong. Or maybe in a high signal area, and the 24db attenuation doesn't cause you to drop too much. Or hell, maybe you do have a fluke phone. But its still a big issue.

Like I said in the other thread, I tried both at the same location: bridging the antennas did nothing, holding it with the "death grip" made it drop two bars.

and the articles you just posted say nothing about the signal dropping just by touching that particular spot, they say the signal drops when "cupping" the bottom of the phone (which is what happens with other phones). after that they say that even so the reception on the iPhone 4 is still better than in previous models.
 
this thread is full of win! i mean fail! i mean...i'm not sure which i mean, but thanks for posting these all in one place!
 
iPhone 4 antenna is actually better than 3GS because you're actually getting better signal except with death grip of course.

Watch the presentation. Steve Jobs said the iPhone 4 drops MORE calls than the 3GS.
 
Android trolls are jealous and insecure the iPhone 4 is still better than their crappy android phones despite have a "death grip". :)
 
Like I said in the other thread, I tried both at the same location: bridging the antennas did nothing, holding it with the "death grip" made it drop two bars.

and the articles you just posted say nothing about the signal dropping just by touching that particular spot, they say the signal drops when "cupping" the bottom of the phone (which is what happens with other phones). after that they say that even so the reception on the iPhone 4 is still better than in previous models.

Here you go. Please review this this time. Watch the video. This is from consumer reports. All signal degradation was performed by simply placing their finger over the line. Hopefully this will prove to you that this is indeed the case.

They performed this with a random sample of three iphone4's. Of course, there are multitudes of youtube clips demonstrating the same thing. So you can continue to say yours doesn't do it, and to that I say...congrats. The rest of the world is having a different experience.

http://blogs.consumerreports.org/el...m-issues-signal-strength-att-network-gsm.html
 
Videos: death grip on EVO, Droid Incredible, Nexus One, Galaxy 1, G1, etc.


* Samsung I9000 Galaxy S: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LROTHrTR92k

* HTC Evo Signal Attenuation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pj2YBYTbag

* Samsung Galaxy 1:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

* Samsung Galaxy 2:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPCQdYtPihg

* Droid Incredible: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaDE941PzQk

* Droid Incredible (With Network Extender in Room): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpEQH9_A5jw&feature=related

* Nexus One: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEIA_lMwqJA

* Nexus One vs. iPhone (start at 1:29): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvMoV4_C4aA

* Nexus One: http://posterous.com/getfile/files.p...n_-_iPhone.m4v

* Nexus One (after Google's update to correct): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2g5J4qPp54

* Nexus One: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deCkjeHYT-g

* Android G1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CDaxhjUs9M

* "Major signal degradation when Nexus One is picked up" (N1 Thread on On this Problem): http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=34ae2c179184c33e&hl=en
Sorry, not true. No other phone has an external antenna that you can directly touch with bare skin. All phones suffer attenuation but not detuning. It is no where as much an effect as detuning as seen on the iPhone 4. Consumer Reports, Anandtech have corroborated. I haven't seen all these videos, but many require unusual ways of holding, essentially trying to block the signal from the antenna. This is very different from a normal touch which happens to bridge the two antennas on the iPhone 4.

Consumer reports went so far as to call the comparison practically a lie. Steve Jobs continued this campaign of confusion. Most consumers can not sort out the difference. Steve Job's and Apple's credibility will continue to suffer. Steve is harming the brand image by this grandiose attitude. Never admitting a mistake, instead throwing it in consumers face. Look how many we've sold and how few returns we've had. I dare you to return your phone. There are people waiting behind you.

Consumers should not react well to this. But this is the same guy who has the nerve to decide what applications you are permitted to run on your phone and iPad. Will he decide what you can run on your Mac next?
This is the same guy who has the nerve to tell developers how to "originally" write their programs regardless of what it does or how well it functions.
This is the same guy who has the nerve to at a whim rewrite terms and conditions to disallow Admod ads while allowing Apple iAds.

Steve Jobs has unfortunately become too full of himself. Unfortunately I've never seen anyone willingly step down from such hubris.
 
Android trolls are jealous and insecure the iPhone 4 is still better than their crappy android phones despite have a "death grip". :)

Hahahaha...you are calling other people insecure.

Insecurity on your part is the whole reason this thread exists.
 
Obviously OP and other will not answer that question. ;)

Has anyone watched the conference video? Apple removed the entire Q&A session because some of the questions are simply embarrassing, and Steve & Co. tried to spin their way out.

Take that as a no then lmao :D

I'm guesing OP is about 12 as I'm hoping anyone older has grown out of this silly fanboi-ism.
 
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