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Videos: death grip on EVO, Droid Incredible, Nexus One, Galaxy 1, G1, etc.

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dmelgar said:
Consumer reports went so far as to call the comparison practically a lie. Steve Jobs continued this campaign of confusion. Most consumers can not sort out the difference. Steve Job's and Apple's credibility will continue to suffer. Steve is harming the brand image by this grandiose attitude. Never admitting a mistake, instead throwing it in consumers face. Look how many we've sold and how few returns we've had. I dare you to return your phone. There are people waiting behind you.

Consumers should not react well to this. But this is the same guy who has the nerve to decide what applications you are permitted to run on your phone and iPad. Will he decide what you can run on your Mac next?
This is the same guy who has the nerve to tell developers how to "originally" write their programs regardless of what it does or how well it functions.
This is the same guy who has the nerve to at a whim rewrite terms and conditions to disallow Admod ads while allowing Apple iAds.

Steve Jobs has unfortunately become too full of himself. Unfortunately I've never seen anyone willingly step down from such hubris.
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None of which, of course, matters at all when I pick up my phone to place a call.

There appear to be two intractable camps on MR. The (i) there is no problem camp and the (ii) Apple must fix the flaw camp. Both are generalizing their experiences (or what they think would happen if they had an iPhone) to everyone, which is sort of funny.

It's pretty simple. If you want the phone, buy one and keep it. If you don't, return it and go buy something else that will make you happy. If Apple is being all evil and ego driven about this, only the return of a material number of phones will impact their behavior.
 
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this grip doesn't look unusual,and i didn't pick an android phone, its a blackberry bold 9700 as stated in the press conf

take a look
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtGq2RoYm4Y

btw, yes i love my iphone4, BUT i don't hate droid phones, berry's etc... could really care less what someone has or likes. i have a lot of other things to worry about than to get into a pissin match about all that.
i just hate people coming up to me saying can you make a call with that thing. its just like the media to jump on the winners to bring them down. just like they did to microsoft years ago.

i just can't wait for all this to go away and the forums can get back to normal
 
Fabienne said:
Hey, I tried out my Blackberry 8320 today, did it do the same thing? The answer is yes, my bars dropped and so, Steve was right. Why the other places don't have to put up with the same wild eyed BS? Shills.
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Sorry, not the same thing, just same result. Your result was due to your hand blocking the signal. You dont even need to be holding the iphone4 to cause signal detuning, you can do it with a house key across the black band. I repeat. You dont even have to be holding the iphone. THis issue is iphone4's alone.
 
Yeah missing the point here!!!!! Try finding a spot on any of those phones that loses 2-3 bars when touched with ONE finger. Watch the Consumer Reports video, they touch the iPhone 4 with inky 1 finger. So even if you carefully hold your iPhone 4 if your finger wandering over the black line your at risk of losing your call. That's a major defect!!!!
 
Fabienne said:
Hey, I tried out my Blackberry 8320 today, did it do the same thing? The answer is yes, my bars dropped and so, Steve was right. Why the other places don't have to put up with the same wild eyed BS? Shills.
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Then again, they don't go promoting themselves as "This Changes Everything. Again"
 
dmelgar said:
Watch the presentation. Steve Jobs said the iPhone 4 drops MORE calls than the 3GS.
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Im willing to bet thats mostly to do with the proximity sensor, which bites me and everyone I know that owns one.

With 4.0.1 4 bars here is my speed test:
DL: 2.2mbps UL: 1.2mbps

Touching the "death spot" as well as being in a massive death grip, I can squeeze the phone down to one or two bars. Running speed test at a death-gripped two bars gives:
DL: 3.6mbps UL: 0.1mbps

Running it again gives:
DL: 3.5mbps UL: 0.2mbps

So I conclude that a death-gripped iphone is superior :)

(I kid of course, but bars do not reflect data rates, so enjoy your iphone).
 
dogie678 said:
Only a small number of people are affected OR care a about this issue.

99% of the people complaining about this are Android trolls. :cool:
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Can this post, especially the bolded part, be a banner at the top of the MacRumors site? I've been saying this forever, but dogie678 has worded it perfectly. My advice to the trolls, go back to /g/ and gizmodo (and troll engadget for having writers who wrongfully can't replicate the problem either). You'll be happier there.
 
I've seen the videos of dropping 3 or 4 bars by just touching the spot with one finger, but I've never been able to replicate it on mine. With one finger I can sometimes make it drop 1 bar...whether I'm starting with 5 bars or 2. And I've never been able to completely cut the signal. So the big bad signal issue...not an issue for me at all.

Now the proximity sensor? Fix it! Seriously...fix that issue and this phone will be perfect.
 
LOL...I just tested out covering my EVO from the top and I can make it go down to 0 bars and 1 bar. Only problem is I don't drop phone calls like I was with the Iphone 4. You have to hold the EVO weird to drop the signal compared to the Iphone 4. You can hold the Iphone 4 normal and the bars drop. Apple just needs to go back to a basic design.
 
sciwizam said:
Hahahaha...you are calling other people insecure.

Insecurity on your part is the whole reason this thread exists.
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Do android phones/google not have cool forums like MacRumors so you have to come here?

MacRumors is a cool place, and it sucks that you don't have a cool place to go and be away from us.

I mean it really really really sucks.
 
kre62 said:
Unfortunately, as much as you want it to be, this is not the same issue as the iPhone4. Sorry. iPhone4 has a unique issue dealing with signal attenuation by shorting the antennae, not simple attenuation by blocking with the hand.
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Lol, clue meet less....
 
wovel said:
Fixed it for you
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No you didn't fix it for me. The Iphone 4 has a much bigger issue. Like others said all it takes is a finger to drop the signal. With the other phones you have to cup them with 2 hands or something else that isn't natural. I wish ppl would stop being blinded fanboys.
 
I even wonder if some of you even watched the videos. None of the videos show the bars drooping instantly like the Iphone 4 and with just a finger. It seems ppl are really trying to hard to defend their Iphone 4 purchase. Who cares what ppl think of your phone. I returned mind because I want a working phone and I know Apple will release a working one next year with out the flaws. I'm not stupid to get myself stuck in a two agreement with a phone I can't use as a phone.
 
Apollo 13 said:
I even wonder if some of you even watched the videos. None of the videos show the bars drooping instantly like the Iphone 4 and with just a finger. It seems ppl are really trying to hard to defend their Iphone 4 purchase. Who cares what ppl think of your phone. I returned mind because I want a working phone and I know Apple will release a working one next year with out the flaws. I'm not stupid to get myself stuck in a two agreement with a phone I can't use as a phone.
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what are you blind??? it's all there in the Video! :mad:
 
Apollo 13 said:
I even wonder if some of you even watched the videos. None of the videos show the bars drooping instantly like the Iphone 4 and with just a finger. It seems ppl are really trying to hard to defend their Iphone 4 purchase. Who cares what ppl think of your phone. I returned mind because I want a working phone and I know Apple will release a working one next year with out the flaws. I'm not stupid to get myself stuck in a two agreement with a phone I can't use as a phone.
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The iPhone bars don't drop right away either. Stop lying.

And just to add insult to injury the brand new Droid X has this same issue lmao!!!
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/969847/
 
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