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Yes, but it's not ApplePay specific, it's merchant specific. If a merchant requires signature for a physical card payment then it's not going to change because you pay with a virtual card.

They could waive signature if they wanted, but a lot of places only did the minimum required so they could say that they "support Apple Pay". Hell, I'm not sure many places are really all that excited about the whole thing in the first place considering how much some seemingly hate accepting cards in general.
 
Thank God. It's so embarrassing being anywhere outside of the US, when everyone else just pays and walks away, but all the Americans have to sign a slip, and the clerks have to dig out a pen. Some countries are better sports about it than others. But it definitely emphasizes who's an American and who isn't at a time when the US international reputation isn't exactly at it's best.

It's all about liability. You are liable for chip + PIN outside the USA but US law protects the consumer by making the card holder and business liable.
 
Thank God. It's so embarrassing being anywhere outside of the US, when everyone else just pays and walks away, but all the Americans have to sign a slip, and the clerks have to dig out a pen. Some countries are better sports about it than others. But it definitely emphasizes who's an American and who isn't at a time when the US international reputation isn't exactly at it's best.

Yes, I've sometimes found myself apologizing for my lame American credit card when traveling outside the U.S. It can be a little embarrassing when people standing behind you in line are waiting for you sign that ridiculous scrap of paper (which the merchant probably throws away). I'm still don't know why U.S. banks were so slow to roll out chip and PIN. For the most part they issue the same MasterCard and Visa cards used in Europe and elsewhere.
 
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It'll probably be a while. We tried them before but they ended up becoming such a scandal that most people would demand cards without that feature if banks just started issuing them again en masse. Even now people buy the RFID shields for their non-RFID chip cards because of the bad reputation.



Not really. Only a few banks issue them now, and they tend not to by default (or well, at least AmEx doesn't anyway) because of what I mentioned above.



Most countries are actually going away from chip entirely, at least for smaller purchases. I went to the UK a few months ago and everyone assumed I was paying with contactless/Apple Pay. Which was nice because nearly everyone supported it.

Considering that and the upcoming EU mandate for contactless support at terminals, I'm not so sure PIN's necessary anymore, at least in Europe anyway.

I was surprised that everyone in Stockholm preferred plastic to cash. I only went to an atm once at the start of my trip and didn’t need to. I don’t think I tried ApplePay because it’s been so hit and miss travelling in the US. Works great in Chicago, practically every cab accepted it. In Vegas, even the McDonalds in the Luxor wouldn’t. In the Twin Cities it’s mixed but I keep emailing my usual stores about it. Hy-Vee is totally dragging their feet. I think they are still hoping for their own pay system to be able to track people’s purchases like that Current C or whatever it’s called. I think a cashier told me the android version works there. So annoying! Let people pay however they want to pay!
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I *have* a credit card from PenFed that supports Chip & PIN. When I used it up in Canada to do things like pay for gasoline it accepted my PIN without any problems. But any time I used it in a restaurant, etc. they'd still print out a receipt for me to sign for some strange reason...
Hmm. Annoying.
 
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You definitely do not have to sign for VISA (or any other) contactless payments in Canada. Never once when using my card or when using Apple Pay have I been asked for a signature. If the contactless is not available you fall back on chip and PIN.

If you have an old card without a chip, then you sign.
 
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Wait, you have to sign a receipt in the States even with Apple Pay?!

Sometimes. It depends on the merchant and the size of the purchase. Most of the signatures are done with a stylus on a screen. I always put a doodle on them and nobody cares. The entire process is a joke and everybody knows it.
 
Thank God. It's so embarrassing being anywhere outside of the US, when everyone else just pays and walks away, but all the Americans have to sign a slip, and the clerks have to dig out a pen. Some countries are better sports about it than others. But it definitely emphasizes who's an American and who isn't at a time when the US international reputation isn't exactly at it's best.

Guess the waiters and waitresses will not be happy. Here in Europe if you tip you put cash on the cable...
 
It’s very rare when I have to sign for a purchase. And for Apple Pay I’ve never had to sign before.
 
Guess the waiters and waitresses will not be happy. Here in Europe if you tip you put cash on the cable...

Not consistently it seems. Traveling in Germany last year we found most of the restaurant receipts included a line to add trinkgeld. I suppose this might be more common in the tourist-oriented areas where they've wised up to the fact that Americans tip a lot better than Europeans, and that tourists are typically traveling with little cash.
 
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It seems that there is LESS security with EMV. So someone steals my card, no ID, no signature, no nothing. Just buy, buy, buy and no one cares until I get the bill and with no signature, there's no proof it wasn't me.

How is EMV so much more secure when the person who has the card doesn't have to prove anything?
 
I thought the signature was a way of taking legal responsibility for the transaction in some way. Never even occurred to me that the cashier was supposed to be verifying the signature, because in my entire lifetime (several decades of CC use) nobody has ever looked at the signature, and I have never signed the back of a card, either.
 
When do we get wireless chips in the CC, similar to Apple pay? Just touch the card reader with the card and payment done. It's already available in Europe all over the place.
Some banks have them. The citi Costco Visa card has it. The TCf bank debit cards has it.
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Wait, you have to sign a receipt in the States even with Apple Pay?!
Not a receipt, most stores have digital signature things attached to the Chip & PIN readers.
 
When do we get wireless chips in the CC, similar to Apple pay? Just touch the card reader with the card and payment done. It's already available in Europe all over the place.
The crazy part is I had this on both of my debit cards, Chase and Capital One for several years. The removed them to go the other way. Crazy!!!
 
Thank God. It's so embarrassing being anywhere outside of the US, when everyone else just pays and walks away, but all the Americans have to sign a slip, and the clerks have to dig out a pen. Some countries are better sports about it than others. But it definitely emphasizes who's an American and who isn't at a time when the US international reputation isn't exactly at it's best.

Completely getting rid of the signature doesn't work as well in a country where paying tips is ubiquitous. A lot of other countries either don't have this in their culture or they include standard service charge with the bill.
 
It seems that there is LESS security with EMV. So someone steals my card, no ID, no signature, no nothing. Just buy, buy, buy and no one cares until I get the bill and with no signature, there's no proof it wasn't me.

How is EMV so much more secure when the person who has the card doesn't have to prove anything?
Because stolen cards are very little compared to hacks and breaches. Which is what emv plus e2e prevents
 
FINALLY. now if only Americans got chip and PIN cards instead of chip and signature so I could use them in other countries without worrying it won’t work, especially while trying to buy a train ticket at a machine that requires a PIN. Often my card will get rejected for needing a signature and I have to try to find a manned ticket counter. Not all subway stations HAVE manned ticket counters and then I’m SOL

There are cards that come with that. For example you can set up a PIN for a BoA Travel Reward credit card so that it could be used online or abroad at POS requiring a PIN.
 
Completely getting rid of the signature doesn't work as well in a country where paying tips is ubiquitous. A lot of other countries either don't have this in their culture or they include standard service charge with the bill.
UK takes tips yet no signatures. Just tap or PIN#
 
You had to sign for Apple Pay?? Baffling.

I think that depends on the issuing bank. My Citibank & Capital One cards already have that feature on them, but not on my BOA debit & credit cards. As far as I know, that feature has been long available here too albeit selectively though.
 
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