All these things written thus far about this device... screams that it is a solution looking for a problem.
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None of the other reviewers mentioned this so I consider it a subjective estimation by The Verge for now.
Not true. You can see in Marques’ review that there are holes on the battery unit near where the cable connects. Likely meant for use by Apple employees and a proprietary tool to remove the “fixed” cable should it be damaged (so that they can replace the cable instead of the entire battery). I imagine this is similar to the original HomePod in that “the cable is removable, but not meant to be removed by consumers”.
Sadly no, you can use the power brick for tethered power, but that power brick has to connect to the battery via USB-C cable. It’s not possible to go direct to a power brick without the battery in-between (yet).
So no matter what, even if you’re stationary and at home, you’ll still need to worry about the heavy battery flopping around near you even when connected to wall power.
This. All of these AR/VR solutions are a solution looking for a problem. Apple thought it out better than the others and actually has one interesting use case (monitor replacement) but even that is not compelling enough to make this turd shine.
All Apple had to do is look at the piles of Meta Quest 3 in stores around the holidays in 2022. Facebook was desperate to sell those and people just were not buying. It is a fatally flawed device but if there was a compelling use case it would have been enough to help sell them. It does not and they do not sell well.
*Edit* Maybe the monitor replacement will be better once it can be plugged into a Mac. Right now the limitations of wireless make it insufficient.
Mods are gonna mark my comment as banal but those images give me the creeps! Tengo miedo!
My goodness what a nonsensical product. Make it 349$ and I'll give it a try.
Do you think it AVP will require an M3 chip to reorder the VisionOS home screen apps?
Watching Marques’ “what’s it like” video, the “eyes on the screen” is so absolutely poor compared to how it’s advertised, it should be false advertising.
Was “persona” called out as beta before the pre-orders started?
Was “persona” called out as beta before the pre-orders started?
The Eye Sight issue was obvious from the start and Apple should have known. This was predictable. It is an important feature of course, to be able to communicate that you are in aware mode, but a better way was to have it be abstract or playful such as cartoon eyes that people could customize. It should be a fun feature, not a traumatizing one.
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Quest 3 is inferior in every way. Just one example:
I’ve used the original PlayStation 5 VR headset, HTC Vive Pro, and own a Meta Quest 3. Vision Pro’s display quality makes both of those headsets seem like they’re from a different era. Vision Pro is in a different ballpark, playing a different game. In terms of resolution, Vision Pro is astonishing. I do not see pixels, ever. I see text as crisply as I do in real life.
Read the rest at: https://daringfireball.net/2024/01/the_vision_pro
Haven't seen any discussions about privacy concerns with the vision pro. Washington Post makes some interesting points:
"The new problem is what else the device is gathering: a map of the spaces around you. The device needs to know the contours of the world around you so it can know where to insert digital things into your line of sight."
"Understanding what’s in the room around you can be even more invasive than having a photograph of it ..."
"Information about how you’re moving and what you’re looking at can give significant insights not only to the person’s unique identification, but also their emotions, their characteristics, their behaviors and their desires in a way that we have not been able to before,”
Researchers last year
"discovered they could uniquely and consistently identify about 55,000 different VR users based solely on data about the movement of their head and hands. It’s as useful as a fingerprint, maybe more."
"used head and hand motion from a game to guess some 40 different personal attributes of people, ranging from age and gender to substance use and disability status."
www.washingtonpost.com
"The new problem is what else the device is gathering: a map of the spaces around you. The device needs to know the contours of the world around you so it can know where to insert digital things into your line of sight."
"Understanding what’s in the room around you can be even more invasive than having a photograph of it ..."
"Information about how you’re moving and what you’re looking at can give significant insights not only to the person’s unique identification, but also their emotions, their characteristics, their behaviors and their desires in a way that we have not been able to before,”
Researchers last year
"discovered they could uniquely and consistently identify about 55,000 different VR users based solely on data about the movement of their head and hands. It’s as useful as a fingerprint, maybe more."
"used head and hand motion from a game to guess some 40 different personal attributes of people, ranging from age and gender to substance use and disability status."
Analysis | Apple’s new Vision Pro is a privacy mess waiting to happen
The Vision Pro, arriving Friday, brings us a whole new dimension of privacy risks. Apple appears to have only partial solutions.
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Fourth gen. Apple always gets it right on the fourth gen.
iPhone 4, watch series 4, iPad 4… while previous gens of those products were good, gen 4 is when those products became great.
I will wait till gen 4 to truly decide.
Definitely no rush. Those 3d movies will still be there. Might actually be more immersive content available as well as its bare bones right now.
Take the time to read up on reviews on discussions around the first iPhone and the first MacBook Air. You will realize how deeply flawed these devices were. And they were changed and improved massively with future iterations.
The iPhone didn't even have 3G cellular. It only had 2G EDGE. And the list of missing or bad features is long. The next version, the iPhone 3G, did a lot of things better and came with an improved design. The first iPhone that was not only revolutionary, but also on par with the features of other phones was the iPhone 4. That design language with the antenna band on the sides still holds today. That's when the iPhone came out of "public beta" at least in my mind.
The first MacBook Air was breathtakingly thin (for the times), but also expensive and awfully slow. It had a little flimsy flap for the ports. It was an interesting concept, but not a great device for everyday use. The MacBook Air has found its final form and place when it went all SSD and down in price several iterations later.
The same can be said for many first and early generation devices from Apple. The first iPod had a mechanical clickwheel and was kind of chunky and definitely super expensive. Apple improved the hardware, added more models. It became a hit.
The first Apple Watch barely worked for a full day and was super slow. Next year, the Series 1/Series 2 were a major improvement. And it got better in big steps from generation to generation.
I owned the first iPad. It was thick and slow compared to the iPad 2, that probably was the device Apple actually wanted to built from the get go, but couldn't yet.
One of Apple's strengths can be to come out with a product that is just good enough to give you a taste of its potential. You see all its flaws, but also what it could be in a few generations.
I'm not saying that the Vision Pro will automatically become a success. I'm only saying that compared to other first generation devices from Apple, it absolutely fits in there very well.
It's very ambitious. It tackles a lot of the problems existing devices like this have. It shows some "magical" software and hardware engineering. It also is flawed in many ways that can be improved with future software and hardware updates.
The main question is: Is this a device people will want to use regularly enough when the price has come down and some of the obvious flaws are gone or improved? How many people are potential customers? This will determine the trajectory in the next few years.
This device is not finished. The OS is not finished. The apps are not finished. Like the first iPhone, the first iPad, the first MacBook Air, it is a publicly available preview.
I agree. Looks like 8-10 years until gen. 4. Let's revisit this after 2030.
I agree.
As we can see from iPhone releases, Apple are largely out of any good new ideas
Nobody does.
It’s a solution searching for a problem
They need to get heavy into the gaming side if they want to sell in this space.
Gruber has ZERO credibility in the “objective analysis of Apple vs others” space.
Zero.
I really like the idea of added windows around the Mac display, so I can ditch these extra monitors and have a large portable workspace around a laptop, or maybe just around a portable keyboard and trackpad. I’m not digging that virtual keyboard. This idea alone is exciting to me. But, not at $3500. Offer a future version at $2k, and I might get one. I think this is pretty amazing version 1 of this product, and imagining future versions that are smaller, maybe more like swim goggles. Sunglasses would be great but the light seal is an issue. We have active noise cancellation, need the same technology for light, LOL.
It always is!
Gen 4 iPod was the best. It's the last one before they made the screen color, had a click-wheel, was Windows compatible, great battery life, great price.
Gen 4 iPod Nano was the best. It was the super colorful and super slim one, before they added a video camera for some reason.
Gen 4 iPad was a great buy. It was the first with the lightning connector.
Gen 4 Macbook Air was the first of the redesigned tappered look. This design lasted for close to a decade!
Gen 4 iPhone was the 4. Need I say more?
You can go on and on. Gen 4 seems to always be the sweet spot.