What makes you think this is a rush to market? It's not like the idea for under screen fp tech came from Apple. It's also not like Vivo/Oppo (they're the same company) don't have a reputation for introducing new features before other companies.
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Vivo Could Announce First Smartphone With Fingerprint Sensor Embedded in Display at MWC2017 Shanghai
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
Native innovation means everything! Not copying someone else's technology and calling it your own. Not impressed at all. So what if they beat Apple.
[doublepost=1498136311][/doublepost]
[doublepost=1498136311][/doublepost]
Perhaps they are.
I don't give a damn about this tech (let alone who's first on the market) but they're concentrating on the wrong things.
Fold-out designs, unbreakable phones, batteries with a week charge, camera's that fit in cases, self-healing materials, unbreakable screens, why is this industry being held hostage by a couple of lamenting mammoth companies that patent everything (only to block others) and hardly develop it ?
Fold-out designs, unbreakable phones, batteries with a week charge, camera's that fit in cases, self-healing materials, unbreakable screens, why is this industry being held hostage by a couple of lamenting mammoth companies that patent everything (only to block others) and hardly develop it ?
Last edited:
What many people tend to forget with all the technology available, Apple is not only waiting to get things right but much more their own success is in their way.
There is no other manufacturer in the world that needs to deliver one phone model in the 10s of millions in a short period of time.
That is the same for OLED - yes you could get screens with this unfinished technology years ago and that was ok if you had to sell only a million units or so - but when you are talking about 90 100millions it becomes a very different story.
There is no other manufacturer in the world that needs to deliver one phone model in the 10s of millions in a short period of time.
That is the same for OLED - yes you could get screens with this unfinished technology years ago and that was ok if you had to sell only a million units or so - but when you are talking about 90 100millions it becomes a very different story.
We haven't seen anything yet, but apparently, based on the amount of negativity in this forum, it will suck. Intrigued to know what drives these people.
I hope you are not into sports, or exploration, or research and development, or ....
You are responsible for your own privacy.Records your print, then sends it to the Parties Central Database.
That doesn't make sense, but you will figure that out on your own.
How do you define best in this context?
I hope you are not into sports, or exploration, or research and development, or ....
What native innovation are you talking about? Who's tech do you think they're copying?
They world and the west are so dummed down that they don't no what china and communism is. Apple and Google will provide detail to governments also.
Remember fingerprint scanners before the iPhone 5S? Yeah I don't either.
I know there were fingerprint scanners before but they were so bad they are barely remembered by anyone.
How did they copy something Apple doesn't have?
You are right. Not to miss that they desperately want to sell in the USA. I see many Youtubers that could care less and they only see the stolen money that they are being offered and not the true intent.Records your print, then sends it to the Parties Central Database.
Yes and Samsung was copying them in advance, bigger screens than 3.5" never worked reliably before Apple had them, and customizing the lockscreen/control center became only necessary weeks ago.
Last edited:
That is absolutely untrue. As a point in fact, I can quote what you just said and blog about it without requesting any permission from you and make money from utilizing your quote and name. Another example is if you ever walk off a piece of private property. Once you are anywhere public anything you say or do can be recorded, transcribed, photographed, or video recorded and sold without concern for your privacy. So in the most obtuse sense, yes if you never leave your home and never say anything you are in absolute control of your privacy.
I would suggest the very same to you. Money is transient.
Love the fantasy thinking but most of that doesn't follow the rules of physics. What are they going to make this "unbreakable" screen from? Pixie dust?
Without a first there cannot be a best, unless that first is the only. I would rather have the choice of a half baked attempt while I wait, thanks.
When Tim was on stage talking about the first 64bit phone OS I didn’t see you spout that tripe back then.
Unless your playing a sport or Olympic event etc.
Or a million and one other things.......
Hey, I came third, but did you see how amazing my t-shirt was, awesome colors....
Oh god he shot me, but my gun was so much better
It's more like:
They shot first but my gun was better.
Consult the many patents on the subject that never were materialised. Multi-layer screens with sapphire. Self repairing plexiglass/perspex/polyester derivates etc.
User-replacable toplayers. Or whatever some people with imagination with multi billion budgets can do to solve REAL problems instead of whacking around a home button.
I am not in that business, so ask Apple (if they ever learn to communicate - which is something different than offering platitudes to appaising newssites)
Last edited:
I'm just saying this is how Apple has always done it, the technology is coming out in other phones, but Apple always takes their time with it and does it better. Making it seem like Apple is behind and trying to play catch-up, but it couldn't be more wrong, they've most likely been working on this tech for awhile, but they will only implement when they make it perfect.
I agree, but why do people tend to believe apple is better at protecting their privacy?
You assumed I cared about mine, but I am not. If I were, I wouldn't be on social media or forums.
Why do most companies go after your information? Because money. Hence money is important.
For many, money is important, information not so much.
Chinese mobile maker Vivo could be set to beat both Apple and Samsung to the punch by announcing the first smartphone with a fingerprint sensor embedded in the screen, if an official company Mobile World Congress teaser is anything to go by.
Last week a video began making the rounds online that purported to show a Vivo smartphone being unlocked using a fingerprint sensor integrated into the display. Doubts were soon cast on the video's authenticity, however yesterday the company shared an official teaser image on Twitter appearing to hint at an imminent fingerprint sensor reveal at MWC2017 Shanghai, which starts on June 28.
The teaser image shows the outline of what appears to be a human digit complete with fingerprint passing through a smartphone-like profile, accompanied by the phrase "Unlock the Future", apparently implying a fingerprint-based unlocking mechanism embedded in the display of an upcoming Vivo phone.
As regular MacRumors readers will know, Apple is expected to include a fingerprint-sensing display in this year's "iPhone 8", which is due in September, but the company was said to have faced significant technological hurdles before it reportedly finalized a practical solution last month.
Samsung, for its own part, chose to forego the opportunity to announce the first phone with a screen-embedded fingerprint sensor when it launched the Galaxy S8 in March, with the sensor instead relocated to the back of the handset, alongside the camera lens. The controversial decision to move the sensor to the rear to make way for a larger display was made because the company could not meet the challenges involved in embedding the sensor tech in an OLED screen in time for the S8 launch.
The idea that Vivo could be the first to bring fingerprint sensing screens to consumer phones might seem like a stretch, but the company has been willing to take risks in the past and actually has a decent track record for market firsts. In 2013, for example, it released the world's first "2K" resolution phone - the Xplay3s - featuring a 2560 × 1440 resolution and 490ppi pixel density screen. With the release of the Xplay5, the company also became the first mobile maker to release a smartphone with 6GB of RAM.
Regardless, announcing the first fingerprint-aware display is a different prospect altogether and would be some feat for Vivo, which holds a 6.8 percent market share in worldwide smartphone sales, behind Chinese rivals Huawei and Oppo. By contrast, Apple and Samsung command a 13.7 percent and 20.7 percent market share, respectively, according to first quarter 2017 figures from Gartner.
Stay tuned to MacRumors for updates and other related news from the Mobile World Congress 2017 in Shanghai, which begins on Wednesday, June 28.
Article Link: Vivo Could Announce First Smartphone With Fingerprint Sensor Embedded in Display at MWC2017 Shanghai
----
I remember some company introduced force touch just before Apple launch..and the result is - I dont even know the company name now...
