Vivo Could Announce First Smartphone With Fingerprint Sensor Embedded in Display at MWC2017 Shanghai

[x-evil-x]

What nonsense, company X does a feature so in your mind that means Apple is doing it?

I agree with him. If another smaller company has this first then I don't see any reason why Apple won't release it this year. The rumors have been from the reader being on the back of the phone like the s8 or on the front in the display. I think if vevo does come out with it then we can not ever think Apple would put the reader on the back of the phone. Considering how big the display is with no bezels (no way there is a home button with that).

 

[Vasilioskn]

I wonder how that works and how it affects battery life? Is the screen constantly searching for fingerprints or only when you press really hard?

 

[mi7chy]

First means nothing. Best means everything.

So true.

http://www.zdnet.com/article/back-to-samsung-from-the-apple-iphone-for-one-reason-signal-strength/

 

[wigby]

What nonsense, company X does a feature so in your mind that means Apple is doing it?

Much larger companies than Vivo shave been known to copy Apple's marketing, design, technology and even rumors...

***COUGH*** samsung ***COUGH***

 

[Thunderhawks]

Good things come to those who wait!

After many years with a 4S skipping 5s and going to a 6S Plus, I'll be ready to buy an 8S Plus or 9, which seems about right for them to get this figured out. Until iOS upgrades leave my 6S Plus in the dust, I'll be fine.

Apple will not RUSH to beat anybody to the market. Hope they keep following that mantra.

 

[mctrials23]

I wonder how that works and how it affects battery life? Is the screen constantly searching for fingerprints or only when you press really hard?

Sure it will work the same way as any other touch event. I assume there will be an area of the screen than is "touchID enabled" and when an app requests authentication that touchID can fulfil it will display on the screen ready for you. On the lock screen it will just check what part of the screen you have touched and if its the right area it will try to authenticate your fingerprint.

 

[rudychidiac]

Oh no They're going to introduce it first #apple #doomed

 

[manhattanboy]

I wonder how that works and how it affects battery life? Is the screen constantly searching for fingerprints or only when you press really hard?

I doubt it is pressing really hard, as that would be difficult to distinguish from the 3D touch feature they have now. Probably they will use an ontouch trigger for the bottom portion of the screen, and then scan the contacts from the press for a pattern.

Alternatively, it could be that a fingerprint touch anywhere on the screen would act the same. That would be a really cool feature as you would no longer have to touch "home" to unlock. Anywhere would work, and this might also explain why the price is rumored to be sky high... you would need the display to have very fine multi-touch discrimination.
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First means nothing. Best means everything.

How about being the first to claim you are the best
WE THE BEST FINGERPRINT READER.
Another one...

 

[kemal]

Samsung S8 fingerprint reader does not work as well as iP5s, 6 nor 7.

 

[Jakexb]

This has happened many times before. Let's see how well it actually works.

That was the difference between TouchID and everything else. TouchID actually worked reliably and quickly

 

[Bacillus]

Baby steps my friend. In ten years things will be a lot different

Those are fine for infants, but for self-denounced industry frontrunners those are plainly unacceptable.
Time to kickass some greybeards that haven't developed anything worth mentioning in the last five years while billions pile up and patents got filed by the thousands. Where are their priorities - besides cluttering the planet with dongles and overseeing rasta's selling more music and overexpensive headphones ?

 

[Stella]

What like, Apple Maps?!!

I'm just saying this is how Apple has always done it, the technology is coming out in other phones, but Apple always takes their time with it and does it better.

 

[DrumApple]

Who? Is this VivoRumors.com?

 

[Aston441]

Records your print, then sends it to the Parties Central Database.

Like your state did when you got your driver's license? lol give up dude privacy is gone forever.

 

[Glideslope]

I was thinking the same thing. Money isn't important; its information that is true power.

....witholding of information is absolute control.

 

[citysnaps]

So adorable watching so many get frothed up over this.

 

[Glideslope]

We haven't seen anything yet, but apparently, based on the amount of negativity in this forum, it will suck. Intrigued to know what drives these people.

You are responsible for your own privacy.


That doesn't make sense, but you will figure that out on your own.


How do you define best in this context?
I hope you are not into sports, or exploration, or research and development, or ....

1) Most individuals in China have no clue as to what this means.

2) Withholding of information is the oldest form of power/control known to mankind. Do yourself a favor. Read 'The Art of War.'

3) One cannot define 'Best.' Too subjective.

 

[lkrupp]

This has happened many times before. Let's see how well it actually works.

That was the difference between TouchID and everything else. TouchID actually worked reliably and quickly

Andy Ihnatko says it all the time. When you introduce a new feature it had better actually work. Otherwise the customer tries it a few times, realizes it doesn’t work right, turns it off and abandons the feature, never using it again. And we’re not talking about the stragglers for whom tech is anathema and never works for them.

 

[Glideslope]

Like your state did when you got your driver's license? lol give up dude privacy is gone forever.

Like you did to your county of birth, at birth, with your feet no less, Dude.

 

[BigDO]

Uh-oh, Timmy is gonna have to do even more bleating how "we never want to be first anyway".

 

[Vasilioskn]

So adorable watching so many get frothed up over this.

Ohh I haven’t used frothed in years! I’m using it today thanks.

 

[WatchFromAfar]

I agree with him. If another smaller company has this first then I don't see any reason why Apple won't release it this year. .

I can think of one reason, perhaps this smaller company is better implementing this than Apple is.
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but it couldn't be more wrong, they've most likely been working on this tech for awhile, but they will only implement when they make it perfect.

And if it's not perfect they won't implement it regardless of the fact another Chinese company is doing it.

 

[Bacillus]

Your tech ignorance is showing. Batteries with a week’s charge? Not even in the labs yet.

The subject was about patents not being brought into the lab or developed into products, and now you're saying they are not in the labs ? Happy hiking anyway - and thx for sharing my concern.
My alleged ignorance hasn't prevented me - other than you - from determining real battery inventions from Apple's placeholders:
https://www.wired.com/2015/03/apples-new-battery-tech/
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/130...in-seconds-last-months-and-power-over-the-air
https://www.engadget.com/2016/11/22/super-capacitor-battery-30000-cycles/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...phone-battery-charge-phones-just-seconds.html
https://www.indy100.com/article/new...-seconds-and-electric-cars-in-minutes-7461116

 

[Vanilla35]

The technology is available, we had rumours in the past about low production yields of this kind of sensors. Apple sells millions of iPhones, other manufacturers don't have the same problem since they don't need to sell millions of products in a short period of time

Easy to be beaten by companies that don't have to worry about scale. I'm sure there's a lot of things Apple could do if they didn't have to make 70 million available in a holiday quarter.

Vivo is one of the top 4 chinese phone manufacturers (along with Oppo and Huawei), they sold more than 75 million devices last year. Not 70 million in one quarter, but I would still consider ~20 million to be a large scale production.

 

[RickInHouston]

Only if you're not first.

Kinda took me back to the ol' playground in elementary school. Made me laugh to myself!