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Waiting for Anand's Haswell rMBP Review Megathread

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mg428 said:
Why not? Mr Hammer had mentioned in his words "before Holidays" and later confirmed it as "before X-mas". Another forumite has recently mentioned a problem with the 750M might be holding his review back. That or something else (including Mr Anand's travels) might delay Anand's intended publication date. Last, is it that "unrealistic" to say "Anand has completed 80% of the review" or at the very least he is working on the final editing or etc.?

Above all, check the posts in this thread and you will see Mr Hammer is the only person from anandtech.com who responds to the questions of forumites about regarding the expected review as he even knows Anand's travel schedule.
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I've seen his response. It's also not really fair of you to ask questions with such specificity, and I'd be surprised if he'll indulge them. (There's no way I'd permit my employees to do so.) There's a difference between information that's been deemed quasi-public and information that's still entirely internal. The fact that Hellhammer's the only person who has responded, in fact, is why I suggested you should be realistic. He's not a magic genie to be rubbed and coaxed into giving you, me, or anyone else private information. He clearly has some leeway given his seniority, but I just don't see that as a reason for people to be given an inch and try to take a mile. It seems disrespectful.

Also the 750M garbage was just someone's idle speculation.

It'll come when it comes—probably some time this month. Please, lay off the guy. He's already given more nuggets than anyone here deserves.
 
"Before the Holidays" was my only my guess, not an official word from Anand. The reason why I said it was that it generally makes no sense to publish anything major during the holidays and CES is coming right after the New Year, which would likely push the review to mid-January. I've not asked Anand about the schedule of the review and I'm not going to because it doesn't help anything. When it's ready, it gets published. That's what I can say.

As for there being a delay due to 750M issues or waiting for 10.9.1, that is very unlikely. If 10.9.1 changes something, we'll of course try it and see if it changes things and report back.
 
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"Before the Holidays" was my only my guess, not an official word from Anand. The reason why I said it was that it generally makes no sense to publish anything major during the holidays and CES is coming right after the New Year, which would likely push the review to mid-January. I've not asked Anand about the schedule of the review and I'm not going to because it doesn't help anything. When it's ready, it gets published. That's what I can say.

As for there being a delay due to 750M issues or waiting for 10.9.1, that is very unlikely. If 10.9.1 changes something, we'll of course try it and see if it changes things and report back.
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I hope it is out before Xmas. If it gets pushed to mid January that's an awful long time since it's October 22 release. Does he know the level of interest in this review? Have you read the posts on here?

I find his reviews the best on the internet. I am just curious as to completion.
 
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I('d like to) assume, Mr Anand waited for the release of Mavericks 10.9.1 update to see if it resolves certain issues, especially the UI and scrolling lag, which he had assumed in his rMBP 2012 reviews that they would not be issues in the second generation rMBP with better OS/CPU/GPU. However from many comments out there I understand the problem is still available, and to some people even worse with Mavericks compared to Mountain Lion. Hence he must have waited for the OS update to see whether it has resolved the lag issue, which, according to another thread, has not. Therefore, as the update has been recently released, I hope we will be seeing his review very soon. I really wonder whether he would comment in his review on what kind of GPU/CPU/OS thresholds are necessary to overcome these issues. Perhaps there is not such threshold becuase I read somewhere else that an Asus PC running on Windows with even higher resolution than rMBP but with Intel 4400 card has no lag at all, so I really wonder what causes such lag in the rMBP. In this regard Anand's comments and insights would be quite valuable.
 
I'm seeing no lag. Sounds like ******** to me. As does any 750m issue. I think he's just too busy. I haven't seen a lot of articles from Anandtech lately.



mg428 said:
I('d like to) assume, Mr Anand waited for the release of Mavericks 10.9.1 update to see if it resolves certain issues, especially the UI and scrolling lag, which he had assumed in his rMBP 2012 reviews that they would not be issues in the second generation rMBP with better OS/CPU/GPU. However from many comments out there I understand the problem is still available, and to some people even worse with Mavericks compared to Mountain Lion. Hence he must have waited for the OS update to see whether it has resolved the lag issue, which, according to another thread, has not. Therefore, as the update has been recently released, I hope we will be seeing his review very soon. I really wonder whether he would comment in his review on what kind of GPU/CPU/OS thresholds are necessary to overcome these issues. Perhaps there is not such threshold becuase I read somewhere else that an Asus PC running on Windows with even higher resolution than rMBP but with Intel 4400 card has no lag at all, so I really wonder what causes such lag in the rMBP. In this regard Anand's comments and insights would be quite valuable.
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commac said:
Seeing as how the 750M is in some places performing worse than the iris pro it makes sense apple would ask him to delay until they address some issues.
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Apple does not care about his review. At all. The Iris Pro is optimized for Open CL which is where you see a lot of benchmark improvements. Fine with me if it's faster in some things because of that.
 
Guys it's just a review calm down and breath some fresh air. :)
 
simon48 said:
But MR is #683 in the US. Not even close to all people on MR post on the forums or even read them, but that's a lot of people who are interested in Apple products.
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I would agree with all of those claims. My only point (and we've gotten way off track here, sadly) was that it's unlikely there's some large, pent-up, hidden demand about which Anand and his staff are unaware. If their web analytics are even half as good as their writing, I'm sure they know exactly where their bread is buttered. That in and of itself likely explains where the rMBP refresh falls in the review pecking order.

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Quu said:
fresh air. :)
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What's that? Where can I buy some?
 
Still waiting for the review. Neat conspiracy theories being proposed but frankly the simpler explanation is probably the truth - the man is really busy and something like a Haswell rMBP review is probably very low on his list of priorities.

A Broadwell rMBP should be quite exciting with all the possible changes, but the Haswell rMBP isn't that much different from the previous model.
 
Well I think I might just order my MBP today. I guess I will know if I am screwing the pooch once I get it.


Maybe what we need is to hack Anand, inception style. plant an idea in his head so he will hurry up with his review.
 
luffytubby said:
Well I think I might just order my MBP today. I guess I will know if I am screwing the pooch once I get it.
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On a separate note altogether from the junk happening in this thread, congrats on your purchase. I don't think there's any risk whatsoever that you're screwing the pooch. This is an incremental upgrade on a product that already got excellent reviews. Whatever quibbles Anand and his staff will point out are likely to be quite minor.
 
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thanks for re-opening the thread. i am looking froward to the review i.e. the high end model and I wonder how it will compare to the mac pro, which will be released wednesday. its a good time to be an apple fan, a lot of good products thats why we need good detailed reviews to make buying decisions. the product lines have blurred over the years iPad--macbook air--macbook pro.
 
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tim100 said:
thanks for re-opening the thread. i am looking froward to the review i.e. the high end model and I wonder how it will compare to the mac pro, which will be released wednesday.
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I have a conspiracy theory to propose.

What if the reason the Haswell rMBP review is being delayed is that Anandtech has secretly had his hands full previewing the new Mac Pro all this time. Watch the embargo get lifted and Anandtech has the nMP review out on the same day, just like the iPad Air review.
 
tim100 said:
its a good time to be an apple fan, a lot of good products thats why we need good detailed reviews to make buying decisions.
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Fan? We? Some of us pro users made educated choices weeks ago and have been motoring along ever since earning a fine living with our tools....not toys. And nothing any internet gear review star has to say will change the minds of some of us "We's"...
 
tubbymac said:
I have a conspiracy theory to propose.

What if the reason the Haswell rMBP review is being delayed is that Anandtech has secretly had his hands full previewing the new Mac Pro all this time. Watch the embargo get lifted and Anandtech has the nMP review out on the same day, just like the iPad Air review.
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"Pros before bros."
 
Mr Hammer,

Is Anand going to turn off the 750M graphics card in the 15-inch rMBP so that he can compare and contrast Iris vs Iris Pro vs 750M performance?
 
tubbymac said:
Still waiting for the review. Neat conspiracy theories being proposed but frankly the simpler explanation is probably the truth - the man is really busy and something like a Haswell rMBP review is probably very low on his list of priorities.

A Broadwell rMBP should be quite exciting with all the possible changes, but the Haswell rMBP isn't that much different from the previous model.
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That is what I was also thinking. Essentially there is a large amount of benchmarking and battery life testing suites to run, and nothing really new and exciting can be expected.

CPU performance? Not so much different from 2012
SSD performance? Same as in the MBA probably
Screen? 2012
750M? Similar to the 650M

So I guess there is only TB 2 and some Iris Pro testing that could be at least somewhat interesting.
 
According to his twitter he has a Mac Pro to review, I wonder which review we will get first the rmbp or Mac Pro?
 
Blue Sun said:
Surely the rMBP, he has had it for quite a while now.
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Wouldn't bet on that though. In terms of pageviews and traffic I'm sure much more people would be interested in reading a nMP review (since no reviews exists for it yet) than a haswell rMBP review.

Also for a true tech guy like Anand, I can imagine he'd feel like a kiddy at a candy store playing with the new nMP compared to playing with a haswell rMBP (he's already been using the ivy bridge rMBP, I believe, as his personal machine so there's really not much excitement to be gathered there).
 
I've just bought one, I told myself I'd wait for Anand's review first but I'm delighted with my MacBook (I nearly bit the bullet on the previous generation in summer 2012.)

It's been a little frustrating waiting for his review, certainly, but he doesn't owe us anything, he's noted that he's been travelling and I'm sure once he's ready then it will be as thorough and in-depth as all the others on the site (including those of our own Mr Hellhammer.) :)
 
there is another post on here about waiting to buy a rmbp due to concern of a refresh. what if they update the machine and his review is not out, will he have to start over?
 
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