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I'm typing this on my 15" rMBP configured to 1920x1200.

Obviously but that is not what I wrote. The 'best for retina' resolution is 1440x900 (same as MBA), the other resolutions are scaled and not as sharp. I wrote that the 'best for retina' resolution should be at least 1680x1050 or 1900x1200...
 
Obviously but that is not what I wrote. The 'best for retina' resolution is 1440x900 (same as MBA), the other resolutions are scaled and not as sharp. I wrote that the 'best for retina' resolution should be at least 1680x1050 or 1900x1200...

Have you tried using it? If set a scale of one to ten, with one the quality of the MacBook Air's non-Retina display and ten the quality of the rMBP at the "best for Retina" setting, then any of the other four HiDPI settings available in System Preferences have a quality of nine.

As a customer, I would be happy if Apple were to increase the resolution on the 15" MBP to 3840x2400 raw (1920x1200 HiDPI) because it would mean I could have an iota sharper screen. However, as an Apple shareholder, I would be unhappy about it because it would increase Apple's costs for a benefit that I think most customers would not notice.
 
Have you tried using it? If set a scale of one to ten, with one the quality of the MacBook Air's non-Retina display and ten the quality of the rMBP at the "best for Retina" setting, then any of the other four HiDPI settings available in System Preferences have a quality of nine.

As a customer, I would be happy if Apple were to increase the resolution on the 15" MBP to 3840x2400 raw (1920x1200 HiDPI) because it would mean I could have an iota sharper screen. However, as an Apple shareholder, I would be unhappy about it because it would increase Apple's costs for a benefit that I think most customers would not notice.

I largely agree. I wouldn't mind an increase, however the scaled resolutions are in no way blurry.
 
I need one for uni, and thinking of getting it now ready, but not sure if to wait or not....

I know nobody knows for sure, but when do we think the next spec update is likely to happen?
 
In the market for a new laptop...purchase MBP now or wait for this new one? Any suggestions?
 
I need one for uni, and thinking of getting it now ready, but not sure if to wait or not....

I know nobody knows for sure, but when do we think the next spec update is likely to happen?

In the market for a new laptop...purchase MBP now or wait for this new one? Any suggestions?

It seems safe to predict that there will not be a MacBook Pro update before summer. If you need one now, it is an excellent time to buy. The current MacBook Pro is excellent and there are some great deals now. The improvements coming in summer or autumn are likely to be minor.

If I didn't already have a Retina MacBook Pro, I would buy one today.
 
If you're a casual user like me (no gaming, web/YouTube/Netflix, excel, word) then I don't see a reason to wait. I picked up a refurb retina mid-'14 yesterday for $200 off in the Apple store. I didn't feel like waiting for the Air retina. This Pro should last me at least four years, which is how long I typically keep a laptop.
 
It seems safe to predict that there will not be a MacBook Pro update before summer. If you need one now, it is an excellent time to buy. The current MacBook Pro is excellent and there are some great deals now. The improvements coming in summer or autumn are likely to be minor.

If I didn't already have a Retina MacBook Pro, I would buy one today.


Ouch:(, I was hoping Spring at the latest. I guess I'll just wait a little longer
 
CES is starting I think tommorow, Any announcement that we can look forward to tommorow from Intel regarding Broadwell for the one that are going to be used in high end notebooks like MacBook Pro !
 
Thinking about waiting to see what the next update will bring. Not been that happy with design changes to the MacBook Pros. But everyone here is so complimentary about the retina MacBook pros. And I do like OSX. They still call out to me to buy them. :D:D:eek:
 
Broadwell MacBook

who else is waiting for the next macbook to utilise intel really low power broadwell CPUs? (probably macbook air)

Expected features:

*Buttonless trackpad to resemble touchscreen-like experience.
*Passively cooled / fanless CPU like the iPad
*Type C reversible USB ports
*Ability to drive a 4k display at 60Hz over HDMI or thunderbolt.
*Resembles 13.3" macbook pro retina design but comes in one 12" size
*Retina display - same amount of pixels as 13.3" but higher DPI because of smaller size.
*Slightly thinner and lighter than 13.3" macbook pro retina and probably lacks SD card reader but everything else the same - including two thunderbolt ports.
* MagSafe replaced by lightning port (on this model only) and box comes with long lightning cable and small power supply.
* 1TB SSD option?
* TouchID built into touchpad
 
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Its not gonna be that good as we think, pretty sure about that.

talk about pessimism ! :p you might be right but nevertheless the macbook air has been using the same design for quite a while now and is the only new apple device, except for the 21.5" iMac, to not have a retina display.
 
who else is waiting for the next macbook to utilise intel really low power broadwell CPUs?

I am waiting but I don't expect it to be a real low power CPU. The broadwell core M has been around for some time now and the performance is disappointing (lenovo yoga). It looks like Apple is waiting for the broadwell CPU's that might be released this month.
I hope it will be a broadwell i5 (10-15watt tdp) with about same performance as the Haswell mba. It doesn't need be to be fannless for me, or paper thin.
A bit lighter ok, a bit smaller ok. Or the current 11.6" with smaller bezels.
Retina, ofcourse. Lightning or usb C charging nice but no must.
 
I really can not wait to see the new macbook pro ! I just hope that it is not going to be just one of those silent updates via speed bumb .
I do not personally get why is apple taking their time for so long. They could at least do something with design, camera or try to implement some new features like old Ir blaster, or old battery idicator ... just do something !

they definitely do have the resources so I do not get where is the problem... it would attract so much more customers... like when my mom came to the store to buy new macbook air and she saw those computers on the self, she thought they their are still selling the exact computer she has right now (13" Air 2010) so she did not even bother to ask and she left...

But I do not think that we are going to see touch Id on Macs anz time soome for couple of reasons

1. we open our phones and tablets a lot more frequently then computers

2. iOS is very closed system where you can not get to the data and so get the fingerprint, but macs on the other hand are open that means that it would be very hard to protect the data about our fingerprints

3. for ergonomic reasons the touch Id would have to be implemented in trackpad and I am not sure if the technology is yet available
 
If you're a casual user like me (no gaming, web/YouTube/Netflix, excel, word) then I don't see a reason to wait. I picked up a refurb retina mid-'14 yesterday for $200 off in the Apple store. I didn't feel like waiting for the Air retina. This Pro should last me at least four years, which is how long I typically keep a laptop.

if that's what you do then why not save $$ and weight and get a air? for what do you need a mbp?
 
if that's what you do then why not save $$ and weight and get a air? for what do you need a mbp?

The refurb retina pro was the same price as a new in box air. Weight isn't an issue. I'm also very spoiled by the retina iphone 6.
 
So the most likely scenario for the 13" will be:

i5 2,7/3,1 GHz with 300/1050 MHz GPU (128GB and 256GB models)

i5 2,9/3,3 GHz with 300/1100 MHz GPU (512GB model)

i7 3,1/3,4 GHz with 300/1100 MHz GPU (BTO)

I wonder how those chips will stack up against Haswell. I'm especially looking forward to the updated Quick Sync, that should make transcoding a heck of a lot faster.

Hopefully Apple will release these ahead of the 15", instead of holding out until the 15" parts are available. And April release would be fantastic for the 13" rMBP.
 
The Broadwell CPUs announced today are suitable for the MacBook Air and for the 13" MacBook Pro. Broadwell CPUs suitable for the 15" MacBook Pro have not yet been announced.

Interestingly, the Broadwell CPUs suitable for the 13" MacBook Pro have the same 28W TDP of the corresponding Haswell chips. That means Intel have packed a lot more transistors onto each chip (mostly into the GPU I expect) and raised the clock speeds.
 
Here's my ultimate 15" rMBP wishlist:

1. 3360 x 2100 screen. It's a HiDPI version of the previous hi-res 1680x1050 option. Probably won't happen because Apple thinks that "scaled" modes are okay (I disagree)

I am hanging onto my Early 2011 MBP until I get a screen resolution of at least that much. I also don't like Apple's abandonment of matte glare-reducing screens. I hope those will come back at the same time.
 
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