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Waiting for Broadwell MBP Thread

Well part of it is that IGZO is "only" allowing the iPad to retain a similar battery life to it's predecessor. Like I've mentioned before, tech improvements don't happen in a vacuum. Apple could have improved battery life and foregone slimming the iPad Air or increasing processing power; instead, they slimmed the Air, and maintained battery life via transparent tech (metaphorically) implementation, namely IGZO and a smaller battery.
 
Steelseries said:
What about a 13" with a GPU? To kinda separate the Macbook Pro from the Air once the Air got that Retina Display. Also a quad core i7 upgrade would be nice.(13")
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You are fighting the apple business side on that one. No way they allow a quad or dGPU in the 13". You have to pay the much higher base price of the 15" to get those - consumer desires be damned.
 
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Count Blah said:
You are fighting the apple business side on that one. No way they allow a quad or dGPU in the 13". You have to pay the much higher base price of the 15" to get those - consumer desired be damned.
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I think quad-core will come to the 13" within the next two years, but dGPUs are on their way out in all models. No way would the 13" ever see one again.
 
PDFierro said:
I think quad-core will come to the 13" within the next two years, but dGPUs are on their way out in all models. No way would the 13" ever see one again.
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I don't see it happening. dGPU's are here to stay.
 
This better be worth the wait. I am hoping for a new design, liquid metal or Carbon Fibre body, 10-12 hours battery life, magsafe 3 and dGPU.

I don't know how long my 2009 Vaio Z has left:(
 
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.:Aleph:. said:
What sort of a design?
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I feel the keyboard could be improved, the trackpad updated and the area around the trackpad is quite big, they could make more use of that area and make it more comfortable.

The hinge could be improved somehow, its been the same for a while? The power button could look better (design wise). The gap to lift the screen up, that could be more innovative.

It's a great design already, but it can always be better. I feel my Vaio looks nicer (design wise) than the Macbook pro Retina.
 
StarFleet said:
I feel the keyboard could be improved, the trackpad updated and the area around the trackpad is quite big, they could make more use of that area and make it more comfortable.

The hinge could be improved somehow, its been the same for a while? The power button could look better (design wise). The gap to lift the screen up, that could be more innovative.

It's a great design already, but it can always be better. I feel my Vaio looks nicer (design wise) than the Macbook pro Retina.
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I haven't read a review stating that the trackpad and the keyboard need updating. That being said, I never understood why Apple made the power button a keyboard button. I guess they wanted to fill the space left by the button that used to be there (it's been a while, I forget which button it was).

Aren't Vaios all plastic?
 
Steelseries said:
What about a 13" with a GPU?
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Count Blah said:
You are fighting the apple business side on that one. No way they allow a quad or dGPU in the 13".
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What he's fighting is the main vector of progress in integrated circuits. Transistors are made smaller, which means more of them can be put on one die, which means more and more functions can be integrated onto fewer and fewer dies (and fewer and fewer chips). That integration is the main source of increased performance, increased reliability, and lower cost.

This is exactly the same argument as we had about twenty years ago with integrated versus discrete FPUs. The luddites just don't learn.

On the other hand, Broadwell probably will bring quad-core CPUs to the 13" MBP (but not to the MBA).
 
StarFleet said:
This better be worth the wait. I am hoping for a new design, liquid metal or Carbon Fibre body, 10-12 hours battery life, magsafe 3 and dGPU.
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If liquid metal will be used more widely in Apple products, we should expect to see it first in iPhones, then iPads, and only after that in Macs.

Magsafe 3 ??? What is wrong with Magsafe 2 ???

Discrete GPUs are going the way of dinosaurs, buggy whips, vacuum tubes, and all discrete circuits. Integrated circuits are the future of computing and have been since 1958.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't going from aluminum to carbon fiber a step back? I mean, I remember the polycarbonate macbook white, it ran hot, VERY HOT. The whole reason the current macbooks don't overheat (much) is because the whole chassis is one giant heatsink. Wouldn't moving to carbon fiber kind of negate that whole cooling advantage?

Also, here's to hoping Apple actually pays more attention to us professionals and produces some more professionally friendly (upgradable HD and RAM) laptops with retina or IGZO. I'm not saying that it will happen, in fact I'm expecting the opposite, but here's to hoping anyway.
 
phsphoenix said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't going from aluminum to carbon fiber a step back? I mean, I remember the polycarbonate macbook white, it ran hot, VERY HOT. The whole reason the current macbooks don't overheat (much) is because the whole chassis is one giant heatsink. Wouldn't moving to carbon fiber kind of negate that whole cooling advantage?

Also, here's to hoping Apple actually pays more attention to us professionals and produces some more professionally friendly (upgradable HD and RAM) laptops with retina or IGZO. I'm not saying that it will happen, in fact I'm expecting the opposite, but here's to hoping anyway.
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We are not talking about a Carbon Fiber Macbook pro, that would be an awful idea. I was talking about the possibility of liquid metal, although many believe this will come to the iPhone and iPad first.
 
As I said, all I'm hoping for is some more professionally friendly machines. The ultimate workstation would be the cmbp 15" with a retina display. I don't think Apple will introduce one, but here's to hoping they'll do it :)
 
The Leafs Fan said:
That being said, I never understood why Apple made the power button a keyboard button. I guess they wanted to fill the space left by the button that used to be there (it's been a while, I forget which button it was).
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It was the CD/DVD eject button.

And about this waiting for Broadwell...nah, I am going to skip her and wait for Petraeus...:p
 
phsphoenix said:
Also, here's to hoping Apple actually pays more attention to us professionals and produces some more professionally friendly (upgradable HD and RAM) laptops with retina or IGZO. I'm not saying that it will happen, in fact I'm expecting the opposite, but here's to hoping anyway.
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The needs of the many (unwashed masses who desire thinness at all costs) outweigh the needs of the few (lonely pros who wants to upgrade parts). Or the one (you!).

It sounds better when said in a Spock accent :D
 
phsphoenix said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't going from aluminum to carbon fiber a step back? I mean, I remember the polycarbonate macbook white, it ran hot, VERY HOT. The whole reason the current macbooks don't overheat (much) is because the whole chassis is one giant heatsink. Wouldn't moving to carbon fiber kind of negate that whole cooling advantage?

Also, here's to hoping Apple actually pays more attention to us professionals and produces some more professionally friendly (upgradable HD and RAM) laptops with retina or IGZO. I'm not saying that it will happen, in fact I'm expecting the opposite, but here's to hoping anyway.
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Actually, the whole Macbook being aluminum has virtually no effect on cooling.
 
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