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Waiting for Haswell MBP Mega Thread

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Huh...
The 2.8ghz would point to a dGPU.
However, in the search criteria, while haswell was listed, neither intel hd5200/hd4600 or any nvidia 7x gpu was listed


The 7-14 day shipping also seems interesting. Seems to point to an imminent release..
 
APPLE-FANATIC said:
The Model # on this website links to the current rMBP model #'s

ME664*/A or ME665*/A or ME698*/A, ME662*/A or ME663*/A or ME697*/A

Mfr# Z0PY-ME6645-Not sure about the additional digit "5"

I wonder if the model #'s change with a refresh or if they will remain with the ME vs. MF sku's
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You're exactly right- I seem to have missed that for some reason. Breaking apart this model number, Z0PY appears to be associated with with the current base (2.4 GHz) 15" rMBP, as does ME664. I am also confused by the presence of the additional "5" in the listing, though it does seem to me at this point that we are looking at a placeholder and the model number simply implies ME664/ME665.
 
Mr Slippy IV said:
You're exactly right- I seem to have missed that for some reason. Breaking apart this model number, Z0PY appears to be associated with with the current base (2.4 GHz) 15" rMBP, as does ME664. I am also confused by the presence of the additional "5" in the listing, though it does seem to me at this point that we are looking at a placeholder and the model number simply implies ME664/ME665.
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Great find! You may be on to something with this one. 7-14 days before availability, it may very well be a placeholder. I foresee SKUs popping up in retailers systems as we get close to the release of HASWELL.
 
It seems odd that it seems to be a high end mode with a 2.8ghz cpu and 16gb ram and a high price, but only has a 256gb ssd..
 
applepie555 said:
It seems odd that it seems to be a high end mode with a 2.8ghz cpu and 16gb ram and a high price, but only has a 256gb ssd..
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You can order the 15" rMBP with those specs right now from the Apple site. Just select the base model, then the 2.8Ghz CPU option and the 16GB RAM option. Price is the same too, $2749.

Either the specs and price are just placeholders or the fact that it's listed under Haswell is a mistake.
 
Stetrain said:
You can order the 15" rMBP with those specs right now from the Apple site. Just select the base model, then the 2.8Ghz CPU option and the 16GB RAM option. Price is the same too, $2749.

Either the specs and price are just placeholders or the fact that it's listed under Haswell is a mistake.
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Then this is probably a BTO version of the base mode. A quick look at B&H's site indeed shows that upgraded/BTO versions of the base model have an extra number at the end, which could explain the '5' after the ME664

For example, a 2.4ghz rMBP with upgraded ram is an ME6642. I also noted that B&H does not currently sell a rMBP with 2.8/16/256. Maybe they are planning on selling that version of the model and the placeholder is really a placeholder for that.

Also, Apple appears to always change the model id after a refresh, as the original 2012 rMBPs were model I'd MC975/MC976. It seems odd for them to keep it..
 
applepie555 said:
Then this is probably a BTO version of the base mode. A quick look at B&H's site indeed shows that upgraded/BTO versions of the base model have an extra number at the end, which could explain the '5' after the ME664

For example, a 2.4ghz rMBP with upgraded ram is an ME6642. I also noted that B&H does not currently sell a rMBP with 2.8/16/256. Maybe they are planning on selling that version of the model and the placeholder is really a placeholder for that.

Also, Apple appears to always change the model id after a refresh, as the original 2012 rMBPs were model I'd MC975/MC976. It seems odd for them to keep it..
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Agreed. Listing it as a Haswell processor must be a mistake.
 
Blue Sun said:
Agreed. Listing it as a Haswell processor must be a mistake.
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or maybe its not? :)

I think the item is listed just recently.
its unlikely for them to insert haswell as a category unless there are haswell laptops inputted recently (MBA 2013)

they could have been notified by apple about new models coming in, but no spec number.
 
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devilcm3 said:
or maybe its not? :)

I think the item is listed just recently.
its unlikely for them to insert haswell as a category unless there are haswell laptops inputted recently (MBA 2013)

they could have been notified by apple about new models coming in, but no spec number.
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I emailed b and h, sometimes they have more details than they put on the site?
I think this timing does make the earnings call release a bit more likely - it's in 1 or 2 weeks
 
spybenj said:
I emailed b and h, sometimes they have more details than they put on the site?
I think this timing does make the earnings call release a bit more likely - it's in 1 or 2 weeks
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For the record, I don't think that this is anything to take too seriously at this point. I wouldn't bother asking anything that they would not be at liberty to provide an answer to.
 
Mr Slippy IV said:
For the record, I don't think that this is anything to take too seriously at this point. I wouldn't bother asking anything that they would not be at liberty to provide an answer to.
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Probably, but it worked with the new series 7 chronos(Canada computers gave me specs that hadn't been released by Samsung Canada yet)
 
devilcm3 said:
or maybe its not? :)

I think the item is listed just recently.
its unlikely for them to insert haswell as a category unless there are haswell laptops inputted recently (MBA 2013)

they could have been notified by apple about new models coming in, but no spec number.
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The pricing lines up exactly with the current base rMBP BTO with 2.8GHz and 16GB RAM, therefore I'm inclined to assume that these are not Haswell rMBP placeholders.
 
Thanks for answering.

fskywalker said:
Based on what you said, just go out and buy the current 13" rMBP.
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But then why retina? Because it's a later model and therefore has slightly better components even though I don't see that in the specs listed in the online store at apple.com?

If image clarity is not important, am I missing something else if i go with the non-retina i7 2,9GHz and choose an ssd-disk? It seems like then have almost the same specs. The retina i7 is 3,0GHz. But this little 0,1 bump is not all?

Ironsyde said:
The big improvements are going to be better battery life, faster SSDs, faster WiFi. If none of these seem particularly appealing, then you might as well get one today. If new rMBPs are announced at the investor conference, you'll still have time to return it. The alternative is to wait until October.
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Well, there you go. Faster SSDs will definately help me. Harddisks are crucial when recording music.
 
maja-k said:
Thanks for answering.



But then why retina? Because it's a later model and therefore has slightly better components even though I don't see that in the specs listed in the online store at apple.com?

If image clarity is not important, am I missing something else if i go with the non-retina i7 2,9GHz and choose an ssd-disk? It seems like then have almost the same specs. The retina i7 is 3,0GHz. But this little 0,1 bump is not all?



Well, there you go. Faster SSDs will definately help me. Harddisks are crucial when recording music.
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Well, if you go with a 13"cMBP and put a SSD in it, you're spending roughly the same amount of money as if you bought the rMBP, while yes, getting inferior internal components, such as a inferior cooling system and inferior audio (By a lot, volume wise). You are getting 4 gigs of Ram instead of 8. You are getting 1 thunderbolt port instead of 2. And you aren't getting a HDMI port. And it's a full pound heavier. All at the same price. Oh, and you will be getting a FAR inferior display. I know you said that the image clarity is not all that important, but lets be real. After one week using the retina display you will never consider going back
 
maja-k said:
Thanks for answering.



But then why retina? Because it's a later model and therefore has slightly better components even though I don't see that in the specs listed in the online store at apple.com?

If image clarity is not important, am I missing something else if i go with the non-retina i7 2,9GHz and choose an ssd-disk? It seems like then have almost the same specs. The retina i7 is 3,0GHz. But this little 0,1 bump is not all?



Well, there you go. Faster SSDs will definately help me. Harddisks are crucial when recording music.
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The new SSD's won't make such a big improvement music production-wise. We're talking 500MB/s vs 900MB/s, and 500MB/s is more than enough for even the heaviest projects.

You do, however, need to upgrade the RAM if you use a lot of samples in your projects etc. (they are buffered in RAM), and with very large projects with 30-50 audio tracks.

If you need it now, and can't wait, just buy. You'll get a great laptop for music production! But, remember to check that the DAW you use supports retina. Ableton Live for example looks awful.

Otherwise, you could buy a cMBP, and then install an SSD and more RAM yourself. It would be cheaper. Furthermore, you could remove the optical drive, and install a second SSD/HDD just for samples, large bounces etc.
 
Mr Slippy IV said:
For the record, I don't think that this is anything to take too seriously at this point. I wouldn't bother asking anything that they would not be at liberty to provide an answer to.
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It could be a clue because the time frame fits for a release after the earnings call. But I agree that there is no way B&H is going to tell anybody anything now.
 
devilcm3 said:
well it could be apple not changing the price for future macbooks?

based on records, they either lower the price or maintain the price point.
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They're most likely staying the same, or if the 15" rMBP gets only an iGPU they'd better lower the price.
 
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