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Waiting for Haswell MBP Mega Thread

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polymersayb said:
I'm on the fence about whether they're waiting for Mavericks or not. However, I'm pretty sure TB2 is not part of the equation. It's not going to be ramped up until 2014 and it will require updated Haswell processors. I would be surprised if Intel updates its processors so soon after the last generation (esp since Broadwell is apparently pushed back to 2015 now).
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Not sure where you took 2014 from. MP is to be released in autumn, and it will have TB2.
 
surroundfan said:
They were released at WWDC if memory serves, and had their own custom build of Lion 10.7.4, before moving to the general build of Mountain Lion (there was a subsequent custom build of 10.8.2 to fix a glitch for MacBook and mini users, but this was not related).

The fact that the new MBPs have been popping up with a custom build of Mavericks suggests that they are unlikely to be bothering with doing two custom builds (ML and Mavericks). Hence, there will be no updated MBPs until Mavericks arrives.
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https://www.macrumors.com/2012/05/1...pro-and-imac-models-showing-up-in-benchmarks/

nope, 10.8 in May 2012. and July 2012 release.
 
surroundfan said:
I think that's the reason for the delay right there: they're holding back the new models until Mavericks is ready (just like the mid-2011 Mac minis and MBA were held back for Lion).

The benchmarks we've seen for the new rMBPs have all had a custom build of Mavericks. Further, it does not make sense to develop a whole new build of Mountain Lion in tandem with a custom build of Mavericks.

As such, you won't see Haswell MBPs until Mavericks is available for sale.
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This line of reasoning makes absolutely no sense.
• You said, "the benchmarks we've seen...have all," but there's been one benchmark that popped up. One. I do not understand how people are contorting that single anecdotal data point into thinking that there can't be a ML build.
• Moreover, we are not talking about official or even sanctioned tests. This is an "oops" event by a person at Apple who should have known better but screwed up by running Geekbench. Why would you think that just because one guy is running a dev build on his laptop that there aren't other configurations/builds/etc. in use?
• 10.8.5 is in beta testing right now. It wouldn't be entirely trivial to be sure it's adapted for new models, but it's also not a massive undertaking. And, keep in mind--that's exactly what Apple did last year with the release of the rMBP. And that was even during a time when supply was seriously constrained.
• Holding back the models for an OS release is just, well, insane from a business perspective. This is a company that is struggling mightily to avoid year-over-year declines in revenue. While supply chain issues are involuntary and cannot be helped, there simply aren't many good reasons to voluntarily delay your flagship, sales-leading product.
 
Even if we don't see a release today/tomorrow, mid-September is an easy wait. Not that I want to wait that long, but we're almost through with July. We're not in June anymore. I'm certainly not going to purchase the current model with a month and a half to go.

That said, I'm still praying for a release tomorrow.
 
PDFierro said:
Even if we don't see a release today/tomorrow, mid-September is an easy wait. Not that I want to wait that long, but we're almost through with July. We're not in June anymore. I'm certainly not going to purchase the current model with a month and a half to go.

That said, I'm still praying for a release tomorrow.
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I am still praying for a dGPU in the new version 😀
 
surroundfan said:
They were released at WWDC if memory serves, and had their own custom build of Lion 10.7.4, before moving to the general build of Mountain Lion (there was a subsequent custom build of 10.8.2 to fix a glitch for MacBook and mini users, but this was not related).

The fact that the new MBPs have been popping up with a custom build of Mavericks suggests that they are unlikely to be bothering with doing two custom builds (ML and Mavericks). Hence, there will be no updated MBPs until Mavericks arrives.
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You're probably right, but I would note that the first rMBPs required a new OS version due to retina. The Haswell refresh would run ML just as well as Mavericks. The lack of ML benchmarks doesn't necessarily mean it won't happen.
 
Nbapapa said:
This thread sounds like pre-WWDC day all over again... We all know how that ended 🙁
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APPLE-FANATIC said:
LOL!!! I know right!! If nothing happens today...I assume this forum may be a little quiet the month of August......
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So true. Of course, I hope it's released soon, but I'm almost certain it won't. All this silliness over a laptop is really pathetic on our part. Harsh, but true.

If it gets released today...
...Look forward to an explosion of threads on which new laptop to buy
...People will spend thousands of dollars and a new machine when we all know our current ones still work(me included)
...New thread called "Just Ordered Haswell MBP Mega Thread"
...Posts include buyer's remorse because heaven forbid you ordered only 768 SSD when you absolutely need 1TB SSD for those mission-critical homework assignments or editing video clips of your cat for your Youtube channel.
...New Sticky for "Just Received Haswell MBP Mega Thread"
...Loads of posts with links to un-boxing clips on youtube. You really needed that Haswell to edit your video
...rMBP obsession threatens to ruin your life - no homework done because you're watching vids by testing out your new retina screen. Job threatens to fire you for similar reason.
...After a few weeks of relentless obsession, the lucky ones snap out of it and ignore the haswell like that bastard child of technology because Kuo says superRetina is on the horizon.
 
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i just checked delivery times on MBAs and RMBPs and both doesnt
offer a 1 day shipiing option and will be shipped by the 26th at best...
is theres a chance apple is trying to reduce sales till the quarterly call
in order to make the next quarter financial call look better?
or maybe apple is going to launch the new rmbps tomorrow so they dont want alot of exchanges which makes them loosing money...
 
"According to Intel benchmarks in 3DMark 11, the Iris Graphics 5100 will be up to 125 percent faster than the previous HD 4000 [...]" (Source)
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Is this monster really going to be put in the next generation of 13-inch rMBP? 😱
 
Tomerco said:
i just checked delivery times on MBAs and RMBPs and both doesnt
offer a 1 day shipiing option and will be shipped by the 26th at best...
is theres a chance apple is trying to reduce sales till the quarterly call
in order to make the next quarter financial call look better?
or maybe apple is going to launch the new rmbps tomorrow so they dont want alot of exchanges which makes them loosing money...
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Where are you seeing this? I checked the US online Apple Store and the rMBP's all are shipping within one business day.
 
iLive said:
How do you know it won't be the same Intel HD 5000 as in the MacBook Air?
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Because there was a leaked benchmark of a MacBook with Intel HD 5100 running on Mavericks.

And the thermal profile of CPUs with HD 5100 fit in nicely with the rMBP 13".
 
ValSalva said:
Where are you seeing this? I checked the US online Apple Store and the rMBP's all are shipping within one business day.
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that's weird, i just checked and its now an available option
and like 20 mins ago it wasn't.
anyways if you choose the pick up option it shows no early then 25th,
and apple stores should be filled with stocks regularly so it is also makes me
wonder what's up with that?
 
Tomerco said:
i just checked delivery times on MBAs and RMBPs and both doesnt
offer a 1 day shipiing option and will be shipped by the 26th at best...
is theres a chance apple is trying to reduce sales till the quarterly call
in order to make the next quarter financial call look better?
or maybe apple is going to launch the new rmbps tomorrow so they dont want alot of exchanges which makes them loosing money...
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The quarterly call reports revenue & profit for the period from April 1st until June 30. Whether or not any Macs are sold today doesn't affect these numbers at all.

Shipping times and ship to store options have been a bit weird for all Apple products in the last few days. One could be optimistic and hope that it indicates a refresh, but they are also doing some improvement with the App store, so it might not be related to any product launches at all.


PS: It seems that the MBA is seeing shipping delays in some regions, however the MBPs are available with next day shipping for me.
 
thundersteele said:
The quarterly call reports revenue & profit for the period from April 1st until June 30. Whether or not any Macs are sold today doesn't affect these numbers at all.

Shipping times and ship to store options have been a bit weird for all Apple products in the last few days. One could be optimistic and hope that it indicates a refresh, but they are also doing some improvement with the App store, so it might not be related to any product launches at all.


PS: It seems that the MBA is seeing shipping delays in some regions, however the MBPs are available with next day shipping for me.
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and you just killed my last hope 🙁
 
I'm paying mscrumors bills right now the amount of times I refresh. I actually have a stress headache from thinking about this much.
 
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