Refurb store only has two 13" Pros left (neither are retina). Sounds like Best Buy is also clearing its stock. I'm sure this is all BTS-related, but always makes me wonder.
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Waiting for Haswell MBP Mega Thread
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From that link:
So it is possible for Intel to improve things.
If you actually read that link...
I wouldn't call that an improvement by any means.
They tested preliminary codes. The final codes that Intel later pushed to the public performed the same, but they applied the same performance "improvements" to the Windows side, and then Windows again pushed ahead.
And if not, the lack of features in the Linux drivers is still quite disturbing.
So I've been lurking on this thread for a few months now, and I've got a question.
I'm going off to college on August 15th, and I need to get a new computer; I originally wanted to wait for a new release, but seeing as how that may not happen until October, I think that I want to get the 15 inch rMBP higher end preconfigured model this weekend, so that A) I get the $100 in apps and B) I can load all of my stuff onto my computer before school (I'm going to a pretty difficult college and I don't want to be bothered with having to set up a computer halfway through the semester).
I'm currently using a 2008 unibody, and it's holding up ok, but it's definitely not capable of handling college, so I suppose that that's pushing me towards a new computer as well.
I'm slightly nervous about getting a new computer so close to the update, as I felt regret when I got my current computer and a few months later the 7 hour battery Macbook pros came out. However, I really want the dGPU for some games and from what I've read, Iris Pro can't perform as well as the 650M in real world applications. I also figure that 7 hours, plus whatever Mavericks may shovel on, is good enough for me in terms of battery life. I don't really care about an IGZO display, and I don't think that I'd fully utilize the increased SSD performance or TB 2. Am I missing anything? Thanks!
I'm going off to college on August 15th, and I need to get a new computer; I originally wanted to wait for a new release, but seeing as how that may not happen until October, I think that I want to get the 15 inch rMBP higher end preconfigured model this weekend, so that A) I get the $100 in apps and B) I can load all of my stuff onto my computer before school (I'm going to a pretty difficult college and I don't want to be bothered with having to set up a computer halfway through the semester).
I'm currently using a 2008 unibody, and it's holding up ok, but it's definitely not capable of handling college, so I suppose that that's pushing me towards a new computer as well.
I'm slightly nervous about getting a new computer so close to the update, as I felt regret when I got my current computer and a few months later the 7 hour battery Macbook pros came out. However, I really want the dGPU for some games and from what I've read, Iris Pro can't perform as well as the 650M in real world applications. I also figure that 7 hours, plus whatever Mavericks may shovel on, is good enough for me in terms of battery life. I don't really care about an IGZO display, and I don't think that I'd fully utilize the increased SSD performance or TB 2. Am I missing anything? Thanks!
I don't think you're missing anything, I used the exact same logic and got myself a rMBP that just arrived today. So far, I'm loving it! It'a really an amazing machine. I would recommend looking at the refurb store, thats the way I went. You don't get the BTS gift card, but you can save way more than $100 depending on which configuration you get. Just a thought.
I got a 15 retina base model it is 12% slower than what is being sold for 2k. This machine was like over 500 off when you factor the tax cost for my locale. I have to say this machine is great. I know haswell will be better battery life but i have no issues with that as is. I would have to wait over 9 more months for a haswell machine to pop up in the refurb store. I refuse to pay retail ever again for apple product this mac is has seemly had the screen replaced so no IR no yellow tint i could not be more pleased.
Even more to the point, they carried the exact same model number. It wasn't even really a refresh. It was probably the most ho-hum press release in recent history, with the only piece making it noteworthy being the price drops to the 13" model. Practically nothing at all happened to the 15".
Been lurking in here for a while, it seems nothing is going to happen for a few months and I need a laptop before I go overseas next month.
Managed to score a brand new 2012 rMBP 15 2.6/8/512 for $2100 AUD which I can claim the tax back on when I go overseas bringing it to around $1900 (around $1750 US I think). If there is significant improvements with Haswell then hopefully this will hold resale value well. Although anything is an upgrade from my 13" 2010 MBP
Edit: also scored a 2012 13 rMBP 2.5/8/256 for $1300 AUD for the parents (this seems to be the same model that you can configure for $1849 in the store)
Managed to score a brand new 2012 rMBP 15 2.6/8/512 for $2100 AUD which I can claim the tax back on when I go overseas bringing it to around $1900 (around $1750 US I think). If there is significant improvements with Haswell then hopefully this will hold resale value well. Although anything is an upgrade from my 13" 2010 MBP
Edit: also scored a 2012 13 rMBP 2.5/8/256 for $1300 AUD for the parents (this seems to be the same model that you can configure for $1849 in the store)
That's what I was thinking too
The current rMBP's are still great computers. And surely Apple is happy to clear inventory for the next month and a half.Guys do you really think they are going to use the iris pro 5200 instead of a gpu like de 750m?
I've just thought about it and it makes no sense,the iris pro is almost as expensive as the 750m,selling refreshed high end laptops with less power than the previous gen its lame,that wouldnt be a pro,at least for me
I've just thought about it and it makes no sense,the iris pro is almost as expensive as the 750m,selling refreshed high end laptops with less power than the previous gen its lame,that wouldnt be a pro,at least for me
9to5mac expects a release in October http://9to5mac.com/2013/07/26/new-haswell-macbook-pros-in-october-says-report-citing-parts-suppliers/
Depends how you define 'close'. If the update is October, that's 3 months minimum. Then there could be another minor refresh early 2014. Who knows?
If we all live on the basis of waiting for a next update, you'll constantly be waiting. This thread is months old, yet we're still no closer to seeing a definitive Haswell MBP release date!
So if its true that they are ditching the dGPU but they aren't lowering the price .
Will wait it out and see what specs they bring out before I make which version to go for but looking more like a Ivy one and save myself a few hundred quid.
Will wait it out and see what specs they bring out before I make which version to go for but looking more like a Ivy one and save myself a few hundred quid.
Three months minimum? I sure hope that if it's October and not September then it's not the very end of October
Every day we get closer to the actual release date if you figure it's going to happen before November.Three months minimum? I sure hope that if it's October and not September then it's not the very end of October
I think it really depends on what Apple does with the next iPhone(s). If the iPhone comes out in September like last year, it could be late October before they decide to hold another event. Last year's October Mac event was on the 23rd a long wait
Until we get closer though, I'll try to continue living under the hope that Mavericks will come before iOS. At least if the rMBP releases with 10.9 we'll get some advance notice with the GM build, and most likely the up-to-date program - no last minute disappointments like WWDC/earnings call.
Guys do you really think they are going to use the iris pro 5200 instead of a gpu like de 750m?
I've just thought about it and it makes no sense,the iris pro is almost as expensive as the 750m,selling refreshed high end laptops with less power than the previous gen its lame,that wouldnt be a pro,at least for me
if that happens i will go for a hackintosh and will stop to use mbp
If I were in your situation, and I really wanted a rMBP, I would check out the refurbished store first. You'll probably get a better discount than education+$100 gift card.
That said, I think you might be overestimating college. No you don't want to slack off and yes it will be challenging, but you also probably don't need the latest and greatest computer and you will very likely have time to set up a new laptop (especially right after midterm season). So what I would do is buy a $300 SSD (check out Samsung 840 or the high-capacity Crucial M500) to put in your current laptop (if you don't have one already) to get you through October, and then update then. And worst case, if they ditch the dGPU and you need it, you could probably still get a nice deal on the old generation and you have a real choice when you buy it.
I'm in grad school using my laptop all day every day, and my 2009 MBP has a logic board/RAM slot issue which makes it randomly crash about once a week. That's why the sooner the refresh the better for me, but I'm willing to deal with the issue because I don't want the last generation.
Just my opinion though.
Edit. According to that 9to5 article Best Buy is also discounting the retina Macs, but I didn't look at the exact savings:
Almost exactly the same logic for me. I have a late '08 unibody 15" MBP 2.4GHz C2D. Even with 8GB RAM, it is starting to show its age. After considering all the current vs. Haswell info I could gather, I concluded I would not use/see the small performance enhancements it sounds like Haswell will bring to the table, and the Haswell isn't likely to come out for a while yet. So I went to one of the local Apple stores and picked up an early '13 15" rMBP 2.7GHz i7, 16GB, 512GB SSD.
Currently a happy camper, and likely will stick with the early '13 when Haswell arrives. If there is something AMAZING in the Haswell machines, I'll sell the early '13, so at worst I may take a few hundred buck hit -- I look at that as just the price for having several months of use of the early '13 instead of the late '08, so I don't worry about hindsight regrets.
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