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Amazon runs out three out of four retina models

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_p...ersion&ie=UTF8&qid=1374301194&rnid=2528832011

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sorry, um .. without the "Prime"

Ohhh, I see.. Not using Amazon that much :D

So "Prime" is when you're buying directly from Amazon?

Could be something.. But I would expect the Apple Store shipping times to change before Amazon would run out of stock?
 
Even if Haswell is released in October, don't rush to buy. Play with it at the apple store meanwhile the early adopters do the review first...
 
The whole thread is for early adopters only. :p
Reasonable people would not waste their time with this nonsense.
 
The whole thread is for early adopters only. :p
Reasonable people would not waste their time with this nonsense.

People who rushed to buy the first rMBP generation had the same reasoning. Less than a couple month later they started complaining and moaning in this forum... :D
 
Even if Haswell is released in October, don't rush to buy. Play with it at the apple store meanwhile the early adopters do the review first...

I don't think there will be much problems with the Haswell rMBP. It's the second version, and Apple should have had time to fix all problems.

But if you receive one and have problems, just use your 14 day return, and buy a refurb early 2013. :rolleyes:
 
I hope they won't have burn in issues, a friend of mine exchange his MBP 6 times to get a Samsung display. He gave up and he's also looking forward Haswell
 
I don't think there will be much problems with the Haswell rMBP. It's the second version, and Apple should have had time to fix all problems.

But if you receive one and have problems, just use your 14 day return, and buy a refurb early 2013. :rolleyes:

As you said, there will be some problems and only time can reveal whether they are severe or not...

It seems people who have already decided to buy the haswell trust blindly apple and do not care or have time to wait for reviews and benchmarks results...
 
OK. I've been following this thread for a while now, and was hoping to get some advice from some of you more in tune with all this than I.

I am doing my masters of Architecture, and currently slaving away on the work and uni PC's. I've got an early 09 24" iMac at home, but it does little more than browsing now. I have been holding out to get the new rMBP whenever it drops, but all this talk of losing the dGPU has me worried. I was hoping someone could clarify for me how much it would impact what I'm doing.

I mostly work in Rhino, Revit, Autocad, and the Adobe Creative Suite. I'm not a huge 'renderer' (V-Ray etc...) but I still need to do it from time to time. I would be running windows for atleast half the time, but no I will not buy a PC. I am sold on the rMBP for various reasons.

I am wanting to know if losing the dGPU is a deal breaker, in that case it would mean I would get the current rMBP (higher spec'd), perhaps even refurb..?

Thanks in advance for any advice...
 
OK. I've been following this thread for a while now, and was hoping to get some advice from some of you more in tune with all this than I.

I am doing my masters of Architecture, and currently slaving away on the work and uni PC's. I've got an early 09 24" iMac at home, but it does little more than browsing now. I have been holding out to get the new rMBP whenever it drops, but all this talk of losing the dGPU has me worried. I was hoping someone could clarify for me how much it would impact what I'm doing.

I mostly work in Rhino, Revit, Autocad, and the Adobe Creative Suite. I'm not a huge 'renderer' (V-Ray etc...) but I still need to do it from time to time. I would be running windows for atleast half the time, but no I will not buy a PC. I am sold on the rMBP for various reasons.

I am wanting to know if losing the dGPU is a deal breaker, in that case it would mean I would get the current rMBP (higher spec'd), perhaps even refurb..?

Thanks in advance for any advice...

Cant really answer about the performance in the applications your running.
But if you are going to use windows, i would wait.
Especially since the current rMBP models loose A LOT of battery when running windows.
Since they cant use the graphics switching when running windows.
So the dGPU is on all the time when in windows.
Since the new rMBP is running only a iGPU you wont have that issue.
And you wont have a hot, loud and power hungry computer when running in windows.
 
OK. I've been following this thread for a while now, and was hoping to get some advice from some of you more in tune with all this than I.

I am doing my masters of Architecture, and currently slaving away on the work and uni PC's. I've got an early 09 24" iMac at home, but it does little more than browsing now. I have been holding out to get the new rMBP whenever it drops, but all this talk of losing the dGPU has me worried. I was hoping someone could clarify for me how much it would impact what I'm doing.

I mostly work in Rhino, Revit, Autocad, and the Adobe Creative Suite. I'm not a huge 'renderer' (V-Ray etc...) but I still need to do it from time to time. I would be running windows for atleast half the time, but no I will not buy a PC. I am sold on the rMBP for various reasons.

I am wanting to know if losing the dGPU is a deal breaker, in that case it would mean I would get the current rMBP (higher spec'd), perhaps even refurb..?

Thanks in advance for any advice...

I don't use those programs, so I will withhold comments for the various people on here that do. But I would assume, that theoretically, if they take out the dGPU the work you would do would be a bit slower, but not necessarily hindered in any true to form way. If those are heavy GPU intensive programs, and the benchmarks come out to say this new (speculated) iGPU has worse performance (as many have speculated as well), then I'd buy the old model.

I also, might end up getting the refurbed, but my reasons are for gaming, and it would be a bit cheaper at that point.
 
OK. I've been following this thread for a while now, and was hoping to get some advice from some of you more in tune with all this than I.

I am doing my masters of Architecture, and currently slaving away on the work and uni PC's. I've got an early 09 24" iMac at home, but it does little more than browsing now. I have been holding out to get the new rMBP whenever it drops, but all this talk of losing the dGPU has me worried. I was hoping someone could clarify for me how much it would impact what I'm doing.

I mostly work in Rhino, Revit, Autocad, and the Adobe Creative Suite. I'm not a huge 'renderer' (V-Ray etc...) but I still need to do it from time to time. I would be running windows for atleast half the time, but no I will not buy a PC. I am sold on the rMBP for various reasons.

I am wanting to know if losing the dGPU is a deal breaker, in that case it would mean I would get the current rMBP (higher spec'd), perhaps even refurb..?

Thanks in advance for any advice...

This might help settle your thoughts

To those who say that the Iris Pro is close to the 1 year old 650m, take a look again. The increase in battery life better be substantial since the GPU performance is a step backwards.

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With performance like that, I doubt they would take out the dGPU, to replace it with an iGPU that loses already to the current one by 20%, when they could be replacing the card with one that is even faster than the one it currently loses to. Hopefully I'm right, but apple worries me these days
 
I don't think there will be much problems with the Haswell rMBP. It's the second version, and Apple should have had time to fix all problems.

But if you receive one and have problems, just use your 14 day return, and buy a refurb early 2013. :rolleyes:

You meant early 2014, right ?

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Why does apple tempt me so by emailing me marketing material
lol that is true! Marketing 101.....
 
With performance like that, I doubt they would take out the dGPU, to replace it with an iGPU that loses already to the current one by 20%, when they could be replacing the card with one that is even faster than the one it currently loses to. Hopefully I'm right, but apple worries me these days

You're still not thinking like a marketer! The "truth" doesn't matter. And the gaming segment of the market really doesn't matter. Instead, you'll see a cherry-picked benchmark more like this on Apple's web site:

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And you'll see even more benchmarks that focus on compute tasks, where the Iris Pro 5200 can beat the 650M, sometimes by a big margin. And so they'll market it as "Up to XX% faster", plus the battery life.

At this point, based on the available data, I'd give it an 80% chance that it's going to be the Iris Pro 5200 across the 15" line, without any other choices. You should resign yourself to that fact now, or else you're going to be very upset and disappointed.

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I mostly work in Rhino, Revit, Autocad, and the Adobe Creative Suite. I'm not a huge 'renderer' (V-Ray etc...) but I still need to do it from time to time. I would be running windows for atleast half the time, but no I will not buy a PC. I am sold on the rMBP for various reasons.

I am wanting to know if losing the dGPU is a deal breaker, in that case it would mean I would get the current rMBP (higher spec'd), perhaps even refurb..?

For that stuff, no, it's definitely not a deal breaker by any means. You'll likely be fine.
 
Even if Haswell is released in October, don't rush to buy. Play with it at the apple store meanwhile the early adopters do the review first...

There's no way most of us can do that. I'm definitely buying it the second it comes out, I can't wait any longer than that.
 
I am in a very similar position
(except not masters and industrial design instead of arch)

Rhino (to the best of my knowledge)

Only uses OpenGL for graphic acceleration, so hopefully (considering benchmarks that are out so far) the igpu will only be about 10% slower, and when running in windows, I will probably end up with way more battery life, which in the end makes it worth it to me, as long as its not more then 15% worse in term of OpenGL, I hope we get the igpu option.

OK. I've been following this thread for a while now, and was hoping to get some advice from some of you more in tune with all this than I.

I am doing my masters of Architecture, and currently slaving away on the work and uni PC's. I've got an early 09 24" iMac at home, but it does little more than browsing now. I have been holding out to get the new rMBP whenever it drops, but all this talk of losing the dGPU has me worried. I was hoping someone could clarify for me how much it would impact what I'm doing.

I mostly work in Rhino, Revit, Autocad, and the Adobe Creative Suite. I'm not a huge 'renderer' (V-Ray etc...) but I still need to do it from time to time. I would be running windows for atleast half the time, but no I will not buy a PC. I am sold on the rMBP for various reasons.

I am wanting to know if losing the dGPU is a deal breaker, in that case it would mean I would get the current rMBP (higher spec'd), perhaps even refurb..?

Thanks in advance for any advice...
 
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