Well, maybe it was a good thing it is this late. The Hangar Module for Star Citizen comes out this weekend. I will be able to know how much GPU power I will need to run that game on a laptop.
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Waiting for Haswell MBP Mega Thread
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Hi all - I've read this thread with a lot of interest over the last couple of months and watched my dreams of a quad-core Iris Pro 13" Retina MBP go out the window.
With my expectations of a dual core 13" retina and a discrete-only 15" retina, I started hunting around for deals on the current-gen. I was pleasantly surprised to score a 2.7 GHz / 16GB / 512GB open box for only $2199 at my local best buy. It was priced for $2339 but I was successful talking it down. I'm pretty pleased with the price and was happier to find a Samsung display and only 1 battery cycle on it.
I'm just finishing an erase / internet restore of ML on it right now. This is a gorgeous machine (coming from a 2011 13" MBA) and I'm excited to get some hours on it.
And... if Apple surprises me with something amazing this fall, I'm pretty confident I can sell a machine like this one without taking a bath.
Good luck to all of you continuing to wait - I was eager for a big performance boost and just ran out of patience!
Hi all - I've read this thread with a lot of interest over the last couple of months and watched my dreams of a quad-core Iris Pro 13" Retina MBP go out the window.
With my expectations of a dual core 13" retina and a discrete-only 15" retina, I started hunting around for deals on the current-gen. I was pleasantly surprised to score a 2.7 GHz / 16GB / 512GB open box for only $2199 at my local best buy. It was priced for $2339 but I was successful talking it down. I'm pretty pleased with the price and was happier to find a Samsung display and only 1 battery cycle on it.
I'm just finishing an erase / internet restore of ML on it right now. This is a gorgeous machine (coming from a 2011 13" MBA) and I'm excited to get some hours on it.
And... if Apple surprises me with something amazing this fall, I'm pretty confident I can sell a machine like this one without taking a bath.
Good luck to all of you continuing to wait - I was eager for a big performance boost and just ran out of patience!
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I would think not. Slightly different purposes, totally different demand in the ID & login concepts, etc.
Did you ever really expect a quad-core 13-inch rMBP? Never was going to happen this year.
While I honestly enjoy arguments such as this, I believe this is the wrong MR thread for it...
Yup, I was just responding, not starting, and I certainly don't plan on continuing. Futile for both sides (to vastly oversimplifiy it down two only 2 "sides).
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The 13 rMBP was selling so well, that Apple dropped the price by 200$ only 4 months after release. Apple does not show any numbers, which is the best selling 13'' Macbook, but it could be possible that the cMBP and the Air are better selling. I'm with Liveinriot's argument: Maybe this is the minority, but for some people 2200$ is to much cash for an iGPU device. Buyers of the 15'' form factor are not used to performance compromises. (I know that even for 3000$, there are people who bought the machine just for fun and dont anything about their hardware and believe the all the marketing charts).
That will come next year with Broadwell.
Prices were initially very high because costs were high due to low early yields on the Retina displays. As yields improved and the costs came down, Apple were able to bring prices down toward market expectations.
I did - but it sounds like i was just plain wrong.
With Haswell's power improvements, I had the impression that a 4C core would fit in the ~~30w power envelope the box was designed for. I based this on the fact that the latest Haswell MBA dual cores, for example are 15w... so.... it felt like we were finally within shooting distance. I suspect the hole in my logic was with how the GPU would also need to scale up as well...
While I've been one of those expecting an October release, I'm starting to think September may be more likely.
Why? Because the rumors about what we'll see in the iPhone 5S/5C and iOS7 don't seem to contain enough "new" stuff to fill an entire Apple event.
iPhone: there's not much "significant" hardware news -- a slight performance increase, camera upgrade, fingerprint sensor, lower cost/colored version, and a couple other trivial bits.
iOS7: there's not much in the rumors (including from beta "sneak peaks") to suggest that there's that much to talk about in iOS7 -- new "flatter" Ive-led UI, some additional features -- usual stuff.
Doesn't strike me as enough to fill a typical Apple show.
Coupled with the rumors that the iPad update will be later (and that iOS7 for iPad may be behind), I'm thinking that the Haswell MBP's make a nice complement to the iPhone/iOS7 to "fill out" the event -- and in fact may be the only other hardware that is "ready" for presentation at the September 10 event.
Why? Because the rumors about what we'll see in the iPhone 5S/5C and iOS7 don't seem to contain enough "new" stuff to fill an entire Apple event.
iPhone: there's not much "significant" hardware news -- a slight performance increase, camera upgrade, fingerprint sensor, lower cost/colored version, and a couple other trivial bits.
iOS7: there's not much in the rumors (including from beta "sneak peaks") to suggest that there's that much to talk about in iOS7 -- new "flatter" Ive-led UI, some additional features -- usual stuff.
Doesn't strike me as enough to fill a typical Apple show.
Coupled with the rumors that the iPad update will be later (and that iOS7 for iPad may be behind), I'm thinking that the Haswell MBP's make a nice complement to the iPhone/iOS7 to "fill out" the event -- and in fact may be the only other hardware that is "ready" for presentation at the September 10 event.
Intel could have built a quad-core 28W Haswell chip, but it would have been comprised in some way, such an anemic GPU or small cache sizes or low clock rate. I once expected it too, before I realized how much emphasis Intel would put into improving the GPU.
I thought there were some "solid" rumors mentioning two events for iOS and other hardware?
If I can wait for Sept 10, I can wait for October. Heck I can wait for Feb 2014.. don't want to, but I'm just not going to buy until the new rMBP is out.
Separate event for iPad, separate event for MacPro, yes. The only question in my mind is whether the MBP will be held to the MacPro event, or with the iPhone 5. I'm thinking iPhone 5 event also because that means the MBP's performance numbers won't look poor next to the MacPro's numbers.
Maybe this:
September event: iPhone, iOS, rMBP's
October event: iPad, iPad mini with retina, Mac Pro, Mavericks
I would have put all the iOS devices in one keynote, then MBP, MP, and Mavericks in another.
I was thinking the same, but the rumors of the iPad update being delayed drive me toward my current guess.
Because the audience for iPhone is the same as iPod/iPad. If they announced them all at the same time, people would have to choose only one to buy. By spreading them out, people can afford buying them all
Not necessarily -- but they are so different, there's not likely to be "cross-program" comparisons.
Because the audience for iPhone is the same as iPod/iPad. If they announced them all at the same time, people would have to choose only one to buy. By spreading them out, people can afford buying them all
I understand that logic, but has that been done before?
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I see. That makes sense, because of the ecosystem.
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True, but they could demo the MBP compared to previous MBPs, and separate it a bit.
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