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Waiting for Haswell MBP Mega Thread
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Lol!
Be right back - running to the kitchen to grab a flame suit and a giant bag of popcorn
Like in the 21st century, so many people still believe in bronze-age fairy tales.
Maybe they bring a 16" Macbook Pro with 4k Resolution, Small Bezel, Touchscreen, Fingerprint-Sensor, 10 hour battery-time. And every customer gets a stylish sena leather case for free.
Ok, i hope to get the 10 hours of battery-time and forget about the rest...
Ok, i hope to get the 10 hours of battery-time and forget about the rest...
Its not that strange at all.
Say that apple ordered 1000x Retina screens each month these past months to meet demand. (a TOTAL made up number that has no bases in reality.)
Since the demand will be higher again for the Retina screens when the new model comes out. They will need say 5000x retina screens instead.
And if they moved production to some other producer, there could be hickups in the production.
And since there where image retention problems in the last line of rMBP.
It seems likely that they would do some changes to get rid of that.
But more likely it has nothing to do with the screen really.
And more to do with some other tech or something else they are waiting for.
The full Haswell line where not out when WWDC was. So they couldn't release it then either.
sorry a little off topic but after reading last week some articles about IGZO i read on wikipedia something linke "A 11.6" IGZO-Display for notebooks is planned and should go in production this summer"
then I asked myself what the market demand for a 11" rMBP with 28W TDP would be? I personally would go for it or what do you think?
then I asked myself what the market demand for a 11" rMBP with 28W TDP would be? I personally would go for it or what do you think?
We really don't know what Apple will do display wise. Looking at the market of IGZO displays today doesn't really tell us a single thing.
Keep in mind before the Retina MacBook Pro there were no laptop 15" displays with the resolution Apple shipped. They had it specially made just for them and it took months after that shipped before other manufacturers introduced similar high density displays.
It is entirely possible Apple could just get a manufacturer to make them an IGZO display if they really wanted it, however unlikely it seems now they have enough clout and money to order specialised items like that which other manufacturers aren't using / don't have yet.
Keep in mind before the Retina MacBook Pro there were no laptop 15" displays with the resolution Apple shipped. They had it specially made just for them and it took months after that shipped before other manufacturers introduced similar high density displays.
It is entirely possible Apple could just get a manufacturer to make them an IGZO display if they really wanted it, however unlikely it seems now they have enough clout and money to order specialised items like that which other manufacturers aren't using / don't have yet.
I was just talking about this yesterday. How can so many people be so "blind"?
I doubt this. It seems like Apple's thinking is that retina displays are the future and they are not going to combine CD/DVD, which they consider a dying technology, with retina displays. I also believe that sticking a retina display on a cMBP chassis would result in a laptop with less battery life than the current rMBP's. Apple seems to be stressing battery life in a big way these days.
This would be a huge step backwards and I just don't think Apple is going to even consider doing this.
The best thing would be if apple introduces the new mbps without dGPU and because they won't sell to put a dGPU in the next revision. This would make a lot of people angry (including me since I am planning to update my current 2006 c2d mbp this year)
Why? I'm 80% certain they're just going to discontinue the cMBP. They have absolutely no reason to keep it around
But the battery will add weight. And Apple hates weight.
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I think they'll give it the white MacBook treatment and make it an education-only option.
Your premise seems to be faulty. The 13" rMBP without a discrete GPU has been selling very well. I can find no rational basis for believing it will be any different for the 15" Haswell rMBP.
Beside all these technical debates about the battery life, iGPU vs dGPU, IGZO or not, we don't know Apples business plan for this years Macbook lineup. And most of these hardware decisions depend on how they will set the price points for this lineup.
If they really choose to kill the cMBP, I expect some surprises. Maybe they keep last years 13" cMBP around for education, but they did not update the 15 cMBP in february. Furthermore the 512mb VRAM in the base model and the to high upgrade prices etc. are hints, that Apple tries to push people to the retina models.
The discontinuation would open a 500$ price gap between the 13'' rMBP with 2.6ghz (1,699$) and the 15'' rMBP entry model (2,199$). I can only speculate what they will do, but something unexpected like a 13'' quad or a lower spec 15'' rMBP don't seem so unlikely anymore.
If they really choose to kill the cMBP, I expect some surprises. Maybe they keep last years 13" cMBP around for education, but they did not update the 15 cMBP in february. Furthermore the 512mb VRAM in the base model and the to high upgrade prices etc. are hints, that Apple tries to push people to the retina models.
The discontinuation would open a 500$ price gap between the 13'' rMBP with 2.6ghz (1,699$) and the 15'' rMBP entry model (2,199$). I can only speculate what they will do, but something unexpected like a 13'' quad or a lower spec 15'' rMBP don't seem so unlikely anymore.
I've thought of this too, but in the reality of all logical possibilities, they don't really have anything they could do that would change the prospect of those price gaps. It's as it is now, just take out the lower tier cMBP line.
Been following this thread for a few months now, and (like most of you) feeling very impatient about the rMBP release. My mid 2007 BlacBook is starting to sound like a single-engine Cessna, and I'm hoping to start some work in the next few weeks that will require a computer that really works (will need to install parallels and run ArcGIS). Some questions for you all to bat around while we all wait:
1) What is the probability that the rMBP comes out before October? I know October is the most likely date, but is there ANY chance it'll come out sooner? Any chance the Sept 10th event will be a massive iPhone/iOS7/Mavericks/Mac Pro/rMBP extravaganza?
2) Seeing as I might need a decent computer before then, I've also been doing with just getting the 13" Air (i7/512/8). Though it's not as sexy as the 13" rMBP, I think it would handle parallels just fine, and the extra portability is a plus (I travel a lot). BUT, I want my next computer to last me a good 6-ish years. How would you stack the Haswell rMBP against the Haswell Air in terms of future obsolescence? Will the Air go the distance, or will the rMBP last way longer?
Cheers
1) What is the probability that the rMBP comes out before October? I know October is the most likely date, but is there ANY chance it'll come out sooner? Any chance the Sept 10th event will be a massive iPhone/iOS7/Mavericks/Mac Pro/rMBP extravaganza?
2) Seeing as I might need a decent computer before then, I've also been doing with just getting the 13" Air (i7/512/8). Though it's not as sexy as the 13" rMBP, I think it would handle parallels just fine, and the extra portability is a plus (I travel a lot). BUT, I want my next computer to last me a good 6-ish years. How would you stack the Haswell rMBP against the Haswell Air in terms of future obsolescence? Will the Air go the distance, or will the rMBP last way longer?
Cheers
I would think if it comes out in September, it will have less features than most hope...if October - I think that ties nicely with the Mac Pro release, and you'll see some commonality...just my gut. As such, I'm fine with October...now if it doesn't come until October and it's a ho-hum update...then
The Register had this blurb today about Parallels/Apple:
"Parallels is currently in version 8 and is fairly cheap, coming in at just below $60. The latest version, Parallels 9, is due to ship at the beginning of September, for the slightly higher price of $75.
The latest version will most likely be configured to run with Mavericks, the new version of OSX, which is expected to be rolled out in September along with new Macbook Pro and iMac lines."
I was just surprised they were so matter-of-factly about it.
I still think we'll seem them in October but I would gladly take them in September.
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"Parallels is currently in version 8 and is fairly cheap, coming in at just below $60. The latest version, Parallels 9, is due to ship at the beginning of September, for the slightly higher price of $75.
The latest version will most likely be configured to run with Mavericks, the new version of OSX, which is expected to be rolled out in September along with new Macbook Pro and iMac lines."
I was just surprised they were so matter-of-factly about it.
I still think we'll seem them in October but I would gladly take them in September.
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That's sad, because I believe the Bible. And there's plenty of archaeologists, historians, theologians, and apologists who have spent lifetimes more than I studying why it's a bit more than a book of fairy tales.
If I'm not cramming it down your throat, I'm sure you'd be open minded enough to not ridicule me about it - not saying you did, though.
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