Yeah that's probably the strongest indication - historically, have there been any leaked geekbench data that end up being totally different than the production version?
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Yeah that's probably the strongest indication - historically, have there been any leaked geekbench data that end up being totally different than the production version?
Interesting. I like your thoughts. Mavericks looks like it could be ready in time along side ios 7. Thanks!
I can't see Apple dropping the prices on the 13-inch rMBP any further. If anything, it'd be by like $100 or so. They already dropped the prices in February. I'd be more interested if 256GB becomes standard or not. But the 13-inch is already a great deal, I just don't see how Apple could offer it for even less.
I'm sure the 15-inch will see a price drop.
The news media has a herd mentality. They just repeat the ideas already out there.
Why? None of the anticipated changes to the 13" rMBP (Haswell, 802.11ac) will substantially raise Apple's costs. However, the price Apple must pay for RAM, SSDs, and especially Retina displays has dropped since February. I think Apple will try to get nearer to the $1199 price of the entry-level cMBP. That leads me to believe that increasing the base SSD capacity from 128GB to 256GB is possible but unlikely in 2013.
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Haha yep, check this out - pre-WWDC articles suffered from the same mentality.
Agreed, similar to the Macbook Air constant price drops since its release, I suspect the Retina Macbook Pros will have small drops throughout its tenure. This is mainly due to cheaper parts and competition e.g. the Air had to be more price competitive once 'Ultrabooks' came out, similar, Retina MBP has much more High-res laptops to compete with in the market now.
My assumption is, retina price drop slightly over time. Either that, or the other option would be they slowly increase the SSD base and keep the price the same. But I'm assuming the price would drop, because that looks much better on the product as it does "seem" a bit overpriced right now. People looking to buy a computer don't realize that it has an SSD which is much faster than the previous generation's HDD. They just see that this one is $400 more.
This. D:
I really wanna get the 15" rMBP, but the price is holding me back for now. I know they won't lower it, but hey, we can hope, eh.
I think a price drop on the 13" rmbp would kill macbook air sales. I can only see a price drop on the 15" model. Also the cmbp should be discontinued.
First, wise companies prefer to cannibalize their own products to letting other companies do so. We've seen that Apple have not been afraid of the iPad cannibalizing MBA sales. Second, I believe MBA buyers choose the 13" MBA over the 13" rMBA more for low weight than for price. Third, a Haswell 13" rMBP will necessarily cost more than a Haswell 13" MBA due to more expensive displays and CPUs.
Sure it is, since I'm comparing it to my 2008 Macbook Pro which was released about six months earlier than the Thinkpad. It was also more expensive than my Macbook Pro (a whopping $2200). The MBP still blows it out of the water. Much better display, keyboard, trackpad and also much better OS.
Anyway, are you guys planning to buy a case for your rMBPs? When I bought my 2008 MBP, I didn't really protect it too much other than buying a better backpack. I'm looking around and I think I might buy the Speck satin hard shell case this time to protect it from scratches more. My 2008 MBP has quite a few corrosions on the palmrest so I was thinking of buying the Moshi palmguard but I'm not too sure about that one yet.
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Sure it is, since I'm comparing it to my 2008 Macbook Pro which was released about six months earlier than the Thinkpad. It was also more expensive than my Macbook Pro (a whopping $2200). The MBP still blows it out of the water. Much better display, keyboard, trackpad and also much better OS.
Ah, I misunderstood. I thought you were comparing it to a more recent MBP. In that case, carry on.
Never used a case for my previous MacBooks. I just buy a sleeve so I can slide it into any of my bags and not have to worry about the contents of the bag damaging my Mac (this only applies if I happen to be using a bag without a dedicated laptop slot). So I plan on buying a new sleeve since my current one is pretty worn.
Apart from my dedicated computer backpack, I've never used anything to protect my current laptop and it still looks brand after 4 years.
Luckily I don't get sweat corrosion on my computer so I've never had to do anything to protect it from that. Is that a ph level problem?
If I remember correctly, yes it is. Unfortunately, I happen to be one of those burdened with a sweat ph level that can corrode the anodized aluminium over time. So I definitely have to buy a moshi palm guard this time around. I'm not sure if it's related but I also get a little electric zap once in a while from my MBP.
I'm looking at getting the moshi iglaze for my future rMBP. Is it any good?
(also hello everyone. It's my first post on this forum)
I agree with this too. PC sales, including Macs, are shrinking. Apple has to do what they can to keep prices low but not drop their margins. If the PC market was growing I could see them adding more premium parts and keeping the price the same. Not now though.
If leaked benchmark of 13rMBP is true and those babies will get 28w-ult pars, the CPU prices across the rMBPs and MBAs will be the same. rMBPs are more expensive because of the display and basic 8gb RAM. Haswell MBAs became cheaper, and if base 13 rMBP will cost the same $1500, I totally can see it getting 256gb ssd instead of the price drop.
P.s. What Apple should really do is drop the price on RAM BTO options across al their Mac line-up. Offering RAM at four times market prices is ridiculous even for Apple.
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As for the rMBP pricing, don't feel like the gap is actually $400 between the cMBP and rMBP.
Spec out a classic one to be the same SSD and processor as a 13" rMBP as best you can. You'll find that you're really only paying $100 extra for the retina screen/body if we're talking 13".
The 15" laptops cost MORE for the non-retina. Go spec out a 2.7ghz/8gb/256gb SSD cMBP - it costs $2749 on Apple.com!! A rMBP with the same specs is $2299!!!
That said, they need to drop cMBP pricing, or cMBPs entirely, in order to "make room" for the rMBP prices to come down more.
Spec out a classic one to be the same SSD and processor as a 13" rMBP as best you can. You'll find that you're really only paying $100 extra for the retina screen/body if we're talking 13".
The 15" laptops cost MORE for the non-retina. Go spec out a 2.7ghz/8gb/256gb SSD cMBP - it costs $2749 on Apple.com!! A rMBP with the same specs is $2299!!!
That said, they need to drop cMBP pricing, or cMBPs entirely, in order to "make room" for the rMBP prices to come down more.
This waiting game has really annoyed me. In the time I've waited for this new MB, I've set aside my mac + ipad money. I was thinking of purchasing a current MBP until the new one came out, but I've decided that I'll probably end up with 2 MBPs - maybe a current(older model) rMBP I'll leave at home and the other(haswell) I'll travel with for work.
I'm so over this crap.
I'm so over this crap.
My understanding is that Apple reduced a bit its rMBPs' profit margins in order to retire the cMBP, but I guess their strategy would be a failure if the cMBP is updated with haswell...
That may very well be the case, especially since we all know the cost must mostly come from R&D ROI and the screens themselves. I'm sure they're doing what they can to get the retina screen costs down, which should trickle down to us even if not entirely.
Apple wants their sales up. As exclusive as they try to make themselves, we still know they'd love a rMBP in everyone's hands.
The waiting game is getting very hard, I agree guys, but I'm holding off still. Sure, you can save on the existing gen now, but they'll cost even less when the new ones come out, and there will probably be even more available! I don't want to intentionally buy a soon to be upgraded rMBP when the new ones will at least be BETTER and maybe also CHEAPER, you know?
Not going to bother with a case, although I am planning on other hardware accessories and software.
Hardware-wise I am looking at getting a 2nd charger; to leave one permanently at my hard-to-unplug desk set up, as well as a TB-Ethernet adapter.
Software-wise I have my eyes on a number of apps - mainly the usually suspects, and an Aero-Snap clone.
Any Software/Accessories recommendations for a first-time Mac OS X user?
There seems to be a decent chance that we're talking about just over two weeks away, right? Not too bad a wait now!
Here we go again..
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Just more hopeful speculation.. but a guy I know who's cousin is an Apple Store Manager, said that Apple recently gave large discounts to the current line of rMBP to employees (or maybe only managers) in addition to their employee % off. So, it is clear Apple is trying to clear inventory. We may really be seeing the rMBP in September... fingers crossed!
I inherited my current macbook from my grandfather, and it was pretty beat up when I got it. I don't want the same thing to happen if I'm going to get a 2,000 dollar computer, so I already have a "iPearl" shell in my cart on amazon: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008NSDBN4/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2YKDKC0R8H76Z
I'm also going to get a grid-it, but that's not really entirely for the macbook, but also for the wires and peripherals:
http://www.amazon.com/Cocoon-CPG10G...e=UTF8&qid=1377533248&sr=8-4&keywords=grid+it
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