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What Apple should really do is drop the price on RAM BTO options across al their Mac line-up. Offering RAM at four times market prices is ridiculous even for Apple.

I agree that Apple should reduce the price of RAM upgrades when they next introduce new Macs or, at the latest, quietly after the holiday shopping season. Apple's current price is $25/GB compared to Crucial's prices of $9/GB to $10/GB. That's not four times market price. It's not even three times market price, but it does allow for a reduction to $18.75/GB or $150 instead of $200 for the upgrade from 8GB to 16GB.
 
I agree that Apple should reduce the price of RAM upgrades when they next introduce new Macs or, at the latest, quietly after the holiday shopping season. Apple's current price is $25/GB compared to Crucial's prices of $9/GB to $10/GB. That's not four times market price. It's not even three times market price, but it does allow for a reduction to $18.75/GB or $150 instead of $200 for the upgrade from 8GB to 16GB.

If we'll look at the memory that's not "mac compatible" (which is, in most cases, the same memory with additional cost), the situation is not clearly that. Depending on the RAM quantity it can lower down to 6.5-7$ per 1gb, which is pretty much exactly four times less expensive comparing to Apple's pricing.
 
If we'll look at the memory that's not "mac compatible" (which is, in most cases, the same memory with additional cost), the situation is not clearly that. Depending on the RAM quantity it can lower down to 6.5-7$ per 1gb, which is pretty much exactly four times less expensive comparing to Apple's pricing.

That looks like an apples to oranges comparison to me. (pun intended) ;)
 
Hi,

First post - like many others I've been watching this thread for sometime but have not been contributing.

One thing I've noticed is that the new products seem to have an additional focus on customisation with colours. Could this be the next theme? I'd like to see the MacBook Pro offered with further choice too - eg the powder coatings that seem to be on the 5S. That would definitely make it well worth the wait!

Any thoughts? I know we haven't seen any leaked parts or pictures but neither have we seen the standard colours either...
 
Hi,

First post - like many others I've been watching this thread for sometime but have not been contributing.

One thing I've noticed is that the new products seem to have an additional focus on customisation with colours. Could this be the next theme? I'd like to see the MacBook Pro offered with further choice too - eg the powder coatings that seem to be on the 5S. That would definitely make it well worth the wait!

Any thoughts? I know we haven't seen any leaked parts or pictures but neither have we seen the standard colours either...

1. Macs are way less popular products comparing to iDevices.
2. Macs, you know, are more difficult to provide with different colors, since their cases are much bigger.

I hope you understand where I'm leaning to ;)
 
Beat the System?

So hypothetically speaking, let's say that the Haswell rMBP's are unveiled Sep 10th like some roumors are reporting.

Would it be possible to "unintentionally" purchase an Ivybridge rMBP Sept 5th or 6th and receive the 100 dollar iTunes gift card that comes with the Student Discount. Then be "surprised" when a week later the Haswell MBP's are revealed and then proceed to return your outdated Ivybridge machine under it's 14 day return policy in favor of purchasing the new Haswell machine all while keeping your 100 dollar gift card you received with your first purchase?
 
So hypothetically speaking, let's say that the Haswell rMBP's are unveiled Sep 10th like some roumors are reporting.

Would it be possible to "unintentionally" purchase an Ivybridge rMBP Sept 5th or 6th and receive the 100 dollar iTunes gift card that comes with the Student Discount. Then be "surprised" when a week later the Haswell MBP's are revealed and then proceed to return your outdated Ivybridge machine under it's 14 day return policy in favor of purchasing the new Haswell machine all while keeping your 100 dollar gift card you received with your first purchase?

I wouldn't do it for a couple of reasons. first it's kind of dishonest, but if that doesn't bother you, i suppose you could. Also, I would not be confident enough that they are releasing it on the 10th to go through all of that. What if it is announced but not immediately released, or you are wrong and it isn't released until October?
 
So hypothetically speaking, let's say that the Haswell rMBP's are unveiled Sep 10th like some roumors are reporting.

Would it be possible to "unintentionally" purchase an Ivybridge rMBP Sept 5th or 6th and receive the 100 dollar iTunes gift card that comes with the Student Discount. Then be "surprised" when a week later the Haswell MBP's are revealed and then proceed to return your outdated Ivybridge machine under it's 14 day return policy in favor of purchasing the new Haswell machine all while keeping your 100 dollar gift card you received with your first purchase?
No -- read the fine print with the Gift Card. You'll get the $100 (or whatever portion you've used) deducted from your refund. Only way to avoid the $100 ding is to return the unused card.
 
My fingers are X for September 10th. OSX release is coming very soon based on appleinsider article. Which to me points to a MBPr release; thinking it makes sense for them to release Mavericks and MBPr at the same time and/or very close together.
 
If I remember correctly, yes it is. Unfortunately, I happen to be one of those burdened with a sweat ph level that can corrode the anodized aluminium over time. So I definitely have to buy a moshi palm guard this time around. I'm not sure if it's related but I also get a little electric zap once in a while from my MBP.

I'm looking at getting the moshi iglaze for my future rMBP. Is it any good?

(also hello everyone. It's my first post on this forum)

I've been looking at the iglaze too. There are some good reviews on amazon but it's more expensive than the comparable speck case and I'm not sure why. Hopefully none of them scratch the MBP when you put it on.

And yeah I'm one of those people that does sweat sometimes. I'm thinking it was because of my non unibody MBP that it corroded pretty badly. I'm guessing the same won't happen to a unibody one but I'm just not sure. Better to be safe than sorry I suppose.
 
That article is talking about the next regular update to Mountain Lion -- OSX 10.8.5 -- not release of OSX 10.9 Mavericks.
I would bet that 10.8.5 will include all the drivers needed to run any new hardware that might be announced 10 September.
 
Sure it is, since I'm comparing it to my 2008 Macbook Pro which was released about six months earlier than the Thinkpad. It was also more expensive than my Macbook Pro (a whopping $2200). The MBP still blows it out of the water. Much better display, keyboard, trackpad and also much better OS. ;)


Anyway, are you guys planning to buy a case for your rMBPs? When I bought my 2008 MBP, I didn't really protect it too much other than buying a better backpack. I'm looking around and I think I might buy the Speck satin hard shell case this time to protect it from scratches more. My 2008 MBP has quite a few corrosions on the palmrest so I was thinking of buying the Moshi palmguard but I'm not too sure about that one yet.

Ugh. The hard shell cases are awful. They do not seal well. Get some dirt or grit between the hard shell case and the MBP and you'll see what scratches really look like. As mentioned, a soft sleeve is far better.
 
Ugh. The hard shell cases are awful. They do not seal well. Get some dirt or grit between the hard shell case and the MBP and you'll see what scratches really look like. As mentioned, a soft sleeve is far better.

Yeah but I thought that's why you clean it once a week or something.

A soft sleeve is nice but doesn't protect your Mac when it's out of the sleeve.

I'm still wary about hard shells causing scratches though. I've heard some reviews stating that the rMBP can get pretty scratched up when you take the shell off and put it back in.
 
Ugh. The hard shell cases are awful. They do not seal well. Get some dirt or grit between the hard shell case and the MBP and you'll see what scratches really look like. As mentioned, a soft sleeve is far better.

I agree with the post above me. A sleeve doesn't protect the MacBook Pro when it is in use. Also a sleeve doesn't do anything against dents. I know a hardshell will obviously crack easily as well if dropped from a decent height but at least for small things the hard shell will provide enough protection to prevent denting. Trust me, I've dont it.
 
Yeah but I thought that's why you clean it once a week or something.

A soft sleeve is nice but doesn't protect your Mac when it's out of the sleeve.

I'm still wary about hard shells causing scratches though. I've heard some reviews stating that the rMBP can get pretty scratched up when you take the shell off and put it back in.

Hard shells, whether they are for an iPhone or a MacBook Pro, will damage the unit over time. Unless you have high OCD and clean the debris stuck between the hard metal and the plastic nearly every day.

What you don't see when you use your shell, is that it bends and flex slightly. After all, it's plastic, not concrete. By bending and flexing, the little hard debris accumulated in there rub against the metal and it leaves marks over time. There's no way I'd put such non-sense over a $2K laptop.

It's a non-issue really. I understand we carry our laptops around, but in 15 years I have had Mac laptops, never ONCE have I dropped one on the floor. I think a simple sleeve and a laptop bag is sufficient. If a case protects the MacBook when using it, it simply does so by not letting your laptop touch the surface it sits on. I simply put mine on the sleeve, that sits on table.

These hard shells are ridiculously expensive and quite frankly, I'd feel better dropping mine in a rubberized sleeve than a hard plastic casing - physics tell me that bouncing back is better in terms of protection. A hard shell doesn't dissipate the impact, that's why people with air jackets and so on break their iPhones all the time. I have yet to dent or even break the screen of an iPhone. Always used silicone cases since 2007, never failed me once.
 
physics tell me that bouncing back is better in terms of protection

Surely in the instance of a laptop case, any potential "bouncing back" is more than negated by the crushing damage of a drop if your laptop is in a sleeve?
 
I have an ikonic edge leather pouch for my phone. Never had any damage. Can't imagine, for any reason, dropping a laptop however.
 
okay then, what would be the best protection? something like this?
 
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