Waiting for Haswell MBP Mega Thread

[toneLA]

Surely in the instance of a laptop case, any potential "bouncing back" is more than negated by the crushing damage of a drop if your laptop is in a sleeve?

I'm simply saying that less damage will occur if it's in a rubberized sleeve vs. a hard shell.

The question was 'I heard a hard shell scratches the metal.' My response was yes, it does. In terms of protection, dropping a 2 thousand dollars laptop on the floor is never a good idea. But pretending that a flimsy piece of colored plastic is going to do wonders is false advertising and a poor understanding of the physics at play.

There's obviously no bounce back. But silicone padding acting like a micro-cushion will mitigate the fall way better than any 1/16" hard piece of plastic ever will.

As far as I can tell, when you open a brand new boxed MacBook Pro, it doesn't come wrapped in a hard plastic box to prevent damage from transit. And if that's the case, I surely didn't get the memo.

 

[bobbydd21]

I'm simply saying that less damage will occur if it's in a rubberized sleeve vs. a hard shell.

The question was 'I heard a hard shell scratches the metal.' My response was yes, it does. In terms of protection, dropping a 2 thousand dollars laptop on the floor is never a good idea. But pretending that a flimsy piece of colored plastic is going to do wonders is false advertising and a poor understanding of the physics at play.

There's obviously no bounce back. But silicone padding acting like a micro-cushion will mitigate the fall way better than any 1/16" hard piece of plastic ever will.

As far as I can tell, when you open a brand new boxed MacBook Pro, it doesn't come wrapped in a hard plastic box to prevent damage from transit. And if that's the case, I surely didn't get the memo.

I agree that the hardshell will not help much from a decent fall. However, it will protect against normal bumps and small falls that would otherwise dent or damage the aluminum. Also if you clean out the case once in a while you will have a much smaller chance of scratching.

 

[aiyaaabatt]

seriously guys? you are making this thread look like the "Retina Macbook Pro Bags, Sleeves, and Cases Thread"

lets get back on topic. THX

 

[ValSalva]

I'm simply saying that less damage will occur if it's in a rubberized sleeve vs. a hard shell.

The question was 'I heard a hard shell scratches the metal.' My response was yes, it does. In terms of protection, dropping a 2 thousand dollars laptop on the floor is never a good idea. But pretending that a flimsy piece of colored plastic is going to do wonders is false advertising and a poor understanding of the physics at play.

There's obviously no bounce back. But silicone padding acting like a micro-cushion will mitigate the fall way better than any 1/16" hard piece of plastic ever will.

As far as I can tell, when you open a brand new boxed MacBook Pro, it doesn't come wrapped in a hard plastic box to prevent damage from transit. And if that's the case, I surely didn't get the memo.

So my Gelaskin won't protect my rMBP from a five foot fall onto concrete?

But seriously, I agree with you. The only time I use those hard plastic cases is just for the bottom protection so that objects don't nick the sides of my MBP (non-retina in my case) and the bottom black round plastic feet don't get too worn from being scraped on surfaces. I've never used the part of the hard case for the display part of the laptop.

 

[bill-p]

You can say that again. Sure, I have a backup laptop that I've been using. But it definitely isn't a rMBP replacement. I'm just really hoping 10 September is when Apple will announce the update.

If September 10 will unveil any Mac product at all, Mavericks needs to be far more stable than it is now.

But it's nowhere near ready for prime time.

Or maybe I'm wrong and peeps are working over time every day of the week for the next 2 weeks to make sure Mavericks is ready for September 10.

Personally, I think October release makes more sense for them. Gives them time to work things out with Beta 7 and Beta 8 before pushing this to the public.

Also a strong indication is the lack of any leak about possible SKUs. Most of the leaks leading up to now are of the cheap iPhone and the next iPad.

 

[bkin94]

If September 10 will unveil any Mac product at all, Mavericks needs to be far more stable than it is now.

They don't need to release Mavericks in order to release Macs. Last year the rMBPs came out a bit before ML.

 

[sofianito]

If September 10 will unveil any Mac product at all, Mavericks needs to be far more stable than it is now.

But it's nowhere near ready for prime time.

Or maybe I'm wrong and peeps are working over time every day of the week for the next 2 weeks to make sure Mavericks is ready for September 10.

Personally, I think October release makes more sense for them. Gives them time to work things out with Beta 7 and Beta 8 before pushing this to the public.

Also a strong indication is the lack of any leak about possible SKUs. Most of the leaks leading up to now are of the cheap iPhone and the next iPad.

ML 10.8.5 will do the job until Mavericks is released...

 

[Agent-P]

Also a strong indication is the lack of any leak about possible SKUs. Most of the leaks leading up to now are of the cheap iPhone and the next iPad.

IIRC, the past couple of MBP updates we didn't see leaked SKUs until a few days before the event. So there's still time for stuff to surface.

 

[goMac]

ML 10.8.5 will do the job until Mavericks is released...

Unless they wanted to advertise the new Macbook Pro with the battery life boost Mavericks provides.

 

[sofianito]

Unless they wanted to advertise the new Macbook Pro with the battery life boost Mavericks provides.

Yes but one month of unnecessary delay means millions of $ lost...

 

[mcarling]

Unless they wanted to advertise the new Macbook Pro with the battery life boost Mavericks provides.

That would not justify a delay in releasing new MBPs.

 

[GSPice]

So I hear there's gonna be a dGPU in the Haswell MBP...

 

[Vanilla35]

That would not justify a delay in releasing new MBPs.

I highly doubt that.

 

[GSPice]

I highly doubt that.

So they'd hold off a release just for an OS release? Have they done that before?

 

[kaellar]

So they'd hold off a release just for an OS release? Have they done that before?

Let me be Jim Dalrymple for one sec:
Nope

 

[Watabou]

So they'd hold off a release just for an OS release? Have they done that before?

Din't think so, in the past, apple has released Macs before an OS release. Those who bought a Mac just before an OS X update though, got a free upgrade.

Further delaying the rMBP just for an OS release seems pointless to me.

 

[smoking monkey]

As for the rMBP pricing, don't feel like the gap is actually $400 between the cMBP and rMBP.

Spec out a classic one to be the same SSD and processor as a 13" rMBP as best you can. You'll find that you're really only paying $100 extra for the retina screen/body if we're talking 13".

The 15" laptops cost MORE for the non-retina. Go spec out a 2.7ghz/8gb/256gb SSD cMBP - it costs $2749 on Apple.com!! A rMBP with the same specs is $2299!!!

That said, they need to drop cMBP pricing, or cMBPs entirely, in order to "make room" for the rMBP prices to come down more.

Yeah... I did that a little while ago and couldn't figure it out! I was all like... WTHA?RWTH!?!

That was the last time i contemplated a cMBP.

 

[Koulie]

Personally, I think October release makes more sense for them.

Tim Cook did say 'new products this fall', so I am sitting on the October bandwagon as well.
I know the context of 'new' was debated a hundreds of pages ago in this thread, so in no means am I trying to repeat another argument over it, just using the most reliable source thus far.

 

[Erphern]

Yeah... I did that a little while ago and couldn't figure it out! I was all like... WTHA?RWTH!?!

That was the last time i contemplated a cMBP.

Maybe user-upgradable innards are more expensive than those in a retina model? Connectors and so on?

 

[GSPice]

What's the highest clock config on Apple's Haswell... 2.4 GHz?

 

[andrew8404]

No -- read the fine print with the Gift Card. You'll get the $100 (or whatever portion you've used) deducted from your refund. Only way to avoid the $100 ding is to return the unused card.

I just returned my 13 MacBook pro and they actually charge you a 100 dollars for the gift card and took a 100 off the macbook. So you wouldn't get a full refund on the pro unless you returned the card toom

 

[Watabou]

What's the highest clock config on Apple's Haswell... 2.4 GHz?

Yeah, 2.4GHz is the highest clock speed for Intel's haswell processors. And that's assuming they use the HQ processors (4750, 4850, 4950) with Iris Pro.

If they decide to use the the MQ processors instead (4700, 4800, 4900), the highest will be 2.8GHz. But that's unlikely since geekbench showed the HQ processors.

 

[Pentad]

Tim Cook did say 'new products this fall', so I am sitting on the October bandwagon as well.
I know the context of 'new' was debated a hundreds of pages ago in this thread, so in no means am I trying to repeat another argument over it, just using the most reliable source thus far.

I have to agree with you. I think October is looking more and more realistic. There are iPhone rumors, screenshots, and videos floating all over the 'net. Just as one would expect before a release. There is NOTHING like that for the MBPr refresh. I will be very surprised if the MBPrs are refreshed on 09/10 given the complete lack of anything on them.

I still think Apple will do a Mac type event combining the MP, MBPr, and Mavericks. This will probably occur in October or perhaps very late September(but I doubt it).

Flame me if you want but I wouldn't get my hopes up for 09/10.

-P


PS - I would be thrilled to be wrong but I don't think I am...

 

[MovieGuy34]

A little off topic...but I'm pretty sure I'm gonna go with the 13 inch rMBP. My questions is, do you think they will be offering a 1TB Flash Storage in the refresh? If not, I think I'll go with the 768 but I would really like a 1TB. I feel like that could hold me over much longer.

 

[that1guyy]

Sigh...I'm think I'm just going to buy a current gen. I'm using my 4 year old crap hp laptop that is extremely heavy right now in college and it is so inconvenient and slow. I'll kick myself for not waiting if the new mbps do have a dgpu but whatever.