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I highly doubt all macbook owners are that ignorant.

I highly doubt you have any actual idea of what MacBook owners know about their MacBook. Unless you run Apple's highly qualified marketing department. In that case, I most certainly apologize.
 
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Except that doesn't necessarily matter. That's why we have VRAM. Stuff is cached in VRAM so the GPU and CPU don't have to talk.

For maximum performance, the CPU and the VRAM need to be on the same die. For maximum performance, the GPU and the VRAM need to be on the same die. The only benefit to having the GPU on a different die has been that more transistors could be allocated to the GPU. As more and more transistors can be packed onto one die, that advantage has been evaporating. As I wrote before, we're just a few years away from the time when it will be gone completely. At that time (which is not yet) discrete GPUs will not be able to keep up with the best integrated GPUs that will then be available.
 
Apple decided last year that Intel HD 4000 graphics were sufficient for the 4,096,000 pixels of the 13" rMBP, but not for the 5,184,000 pixels of the 15" rMBP. The performance improvement of Intel's Iris Pro HD 5200 graphics over Intel's HD 4000 graphics is about double, much more than the 26% increase in the work required to cope with the 15" rMBP.

It would be stunning if Apple thought that the Intel HD 4000 graphics were sufficient for the 4,096,000 pixels of the 13" rMBP but that the Intel Iris Pro HD 5200 graphics were not sufficient for the 5,184,000 pixels of the 15" rMBP.
 
This thread has really built up & it just got a 5 star rating :p

It has gotten really hard to keep with the discussions as things get buried relatively quickly.
So I took the liberty and did some quick math (numbers are approx)

This thread gets 58 posts per day
The 'I just ordered' thread gets a mere 6 posts per day
Therefore this thread should become the most replied thread on Macrumors on the 16th October (58 days).

I have gotten inside information that they have been working the release date around balancing out the two threads.
Therefore, I promise Apple will indeed release the Retina Macbook Pro on the 16th October (which is a Tuesday).

- Nbapapa, chief inside-Apple spy
 
This thread has really built up & it just got a 5 star rating :p

It has gotten really hard to keep with the discussions as things get buried relatively quickly.
So I took the liberty and did some quick math (numbers are approx)

This thread gets 58 posts per day
The 'I just ordered' thread gets a mere 6 posts per day
Therefore this thread should become the most replied thread on Macrumors on the 16th October (58 days).

I have gotten inside information that they have been working the release date around balancing out the two threads.
Therefore, I promise Apple will indeed release the Retina Macbook Pro on the 16th October (which is a Tuesday).

- Nbapapa, chief inside-Apple spy

Meh. These kind of posts are not fun anymore. ;)
 
They actually had an all-Mac/OSX event in 2010. But I agree with you fully: Apple will probably only make a quick Mac announcement before talking about iPhones/iPads for 1.5 hours just to set the mood and make everyone on this thread happy.

I'm (wishfully) thinking September is rMBP/iPhone/iOS7, and October is iPad/Mac Pro/Mavericks/Mac apps. iMacs and Mac minis can probably fit in either event, or even just be quietly upgraded. (I didn't check if there's a 5600 post waiting-for-Haswell-iMac thread though—sorry if I made anyone upset ;))

This seems like a logical plan. It sure spreads the announcements out. There just haven't been many (or any) rMBP rumors lately. Maybe once we get a few days out from the September 10th event and we start to see model numbers for unknown Macs I'll believe there will be rMBP's in September.
 
I want a new Haswell rMBP now! Argh!

Life is suffering when you only have a late 2008 MBP :(

(first world problems ;) )
 
Just a thought, but if Apple go iGPU-only, I think we may get a slight redesign (maybe smaller footprint, slimmer etc). As there will be a bit of extra space to utilise without the dGPU. Probably just wishful thinking, though.
 
Just a thought, but if Apple go iGPU-only, I think we may get a slight redesign (maybe smaller footprint, slimmer etc). As there will be a bit of extra space to utilise without the dGPU. Probably just wishful thinking, though.

Sounds like wishful thinking to me. If I were Apple, I would save that space for the possibility of adding more memory chips if needed to offer 32GB of RAM at the lowest possible price.
 
Just a thought, but if Apple go iGPU-only, I think we may get a slight redesign (maybe smaller footprint, slimmer etc). As there will be a bit of extra space to utilise without the dGPU. Probably just wishful thinking, though.
If Apple would listen to their pro users, they wouldn't shrink the laptop even further, but they would pop in an extra IO, eg. a third USB port.

But we all know how good Apple listens to their pro users, don't we?
 
I have been hoping that Apple would give an option for a dGPU for the rMBP, but It would not be a deal breaker if it only had a iGPU. I've just always thought that Nvidia always updated there products with firmware even years later. Does Intel do a good job with the firmware updates?
 
Ditto for my 2007 MBP. SSD upgrades breath new life into the older machines.

Also have an SSD in my 2008 Macbook Unibody (13"), but it's sloooooooow..

Yesterday, I unpacked a rar on my girlfriend's 2013 MBA, took only about 5 seconds.. Would have taken a minute or so on my MB :eek:

So looking much forward to the 15" Haswell rMBP. I could easily live with the current one, but I can't justify spending several thousand $ on a new laptop (that should last for 5 years), when a new one is coming in a few months.
 
well neither do you.

so how can you generalize them as sheeps that bought machines based on looks and not specs?

Do you think Apple considers their target audience as one that wishes to think about PCBs, or one that wants something that "just works" and has AppleCare for when it doesn't?

Man, I've been writing code for a zillion years and work as a technology consultant, and even I don't give a rat's ass what route Apple takes to providing me with a product. It just needs to work. If I want to start thinking about *how* it works, I'll go build a PC.
 
I have been hoping that Apple would give an option for a dGPU for the rMBP, but It would not be a deal breaker if it only had a iGPU. I've just always thought that Nvidia always updated there products with firmware even years later. Does Intel do a good job with the firmware updates?

You mean driver updates?

Intel and good drivers... hmmm... if you're the "glass half full" kind of guy, then I guess you can keep hoping that they'll be different this time.

Because Intel has NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVVVVEEEERRRR made any good driver for their iGPU. Yeah, EVER. I can't stress that enough.

If they're even half serious about Iris Pro, then it'll be the first time they ever try to put out good drivers.

Either that or it'll suck like... well, every other Intel iGPU.
 
You mean driver updates?

Intel and good drivers... hmmm... if you're the "glass half full" kind of guy, then I guess you can keep hoping that they'll be different this time.

Because Intel has NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVVVVEEEERRRR made any good driver for their iGPU. Yeah, EVER. I can't stress that enough.

If they're even half serious about Iris Pro, then it'll be the first time they ever try to put out good drivers.

Either that or it'll suck like... well, every other Intel iGPU.



Yes I was talking about the Driver Updates. I have a Dell Laptop 2008 and I get Driver Updates from Nvidia once in a while. I just didn't know if Intel continued to support there product even after the next gen comes out. But it sounds like they produce and move on to the next project.:(
 
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