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devilcm3 said:
they have to take into account the battery consumption as well.
IMO the 13" rMBP doesn't seem like a laptop that is catered for professionals, but rather the "ooh i got a retina screen" type of consumer, doesn't seem like there is a need for quads until it the TDP is low enough to match the dual cores.
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Power draw at idle from a quad core is LESS than a dual core. Consider this. A dual core's tdp is 37 watts, while a quad core's tdp is 47 watts. However, at idle and at low intensity stuff, only one core is in use. So, 37/2=18.5watts for a dual core, but 47/4=11.75watts for a quad core.

Yes, I know TDP does not equal power draw precisely, but the illustration is logical and accurate.
 
Freyqq said:
Power draw at idle from a quad core is LESS than a dual core. Consider this. A dual core's tdp is 37 watts, while a quad core's tdp is 47 watts. However, at idle and at low intensity stuff, only one core is in use. So, 37/2=18.5watts for a dual core, but 47/4=11.75watts for a quad core.

Yes, I know TDP does not equal power draw precisely, but the illustration is logical and accurate.
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even if its lower on idle i think that they also have to take into account that you might be running on all four cores all the time? worst case scenario. :confused:
just my opinion though

B... said:
Lower TDP quad or just get the duals earlier than other companies. It's Apple.
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the latter happened on 2011 :rolleyes: so yeah hopefully it will happen again .
 
devilcm3 said:
even if its lower on idle i think that they also have to take into account that you might be running on all four cores all the time? worst case scenario. :confused:
just my opinion though
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If you are just surfing the internet and reading email, etc, you'll be near-idle most of the time. Depends on what your usage patterns are.
 
Serban said:
when is intel keynote for has well?
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15-inch is the way to go then if apple won't introduce Nvidia on the 13".
 
so what can we expect for macbook air and macbook pro,beside battery life?

macbook air with 4600HD and the pro with HD5000 and HD5200?
 
Serban said:
so what can we expect for macbook air and macbook pro,beside battery life?

macbook air with 4600HD and the pro with HD5000 and HD5200?
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HD5xxx only available on high end CPUs

really doubt apple would incorporate them in the 2013 lineup.

probably went on the same like last year

13" using Intel IGP
15" using Intel IGP + Nvidia.
 
so all i5 cpu have only hd4600 so its clear here.
so only 15" macbook pro will probably have hd5xxx

i search and official on intel site all of i7 cpu has HD5200, so 15"macbook pro will have too
 
Not really, razer blade 14' if i remember has an i7 with 4600, there is no reason to put 5xxx in a machine with dedicated gpu.
 
So suddenly the dual core CPUs emerge. But they all have 37W TDP. What happened with the 28W that I read about before? Launching later in the year?

And since there are quad core CPUs with 37W as well... I guess Apple will still use the dual core ones (for 13'' rMBP) due they are cheaper.

Ah, disappointment.
 
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Mackan said:
So suddenly the dual core CPUs emerge. But they all have 37W TDP. What happened with the 28W that I read about before? Launching later in the year?

And since there are quad core CPUs with 37W as well... I guess Apple will still use the dual core ones (for 13'' rMBP) due they are cheaper.

Ah, disappointment.
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which means the 13" retina will still be running on a HD4600...what a joke.
 
so how much improvement is from HD4000 to HD 4600?

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According to Intel benchmarks in 3DMark 11, the HD Graphics 4600 will be up to 60 percent faster than the previous HD 4000. In our gaming benchmarks, however, the improvement was only roughly 30 percent. This performance boost is achieved by architectural improvements and an increased number of execution units: The GT2 version integrates 20 EUs, compared to 16 EUs for the old HD 4000. Thus, the HD 4600 not only matches some dedicated GPUs such as the GeForce GT 620M/630M, but also competes with the fastest integrated AMD GPUs like the Radeon HD 8650G

so it isnt so bad after all
 
so it is fair to say that 30% will make the lag issues from some retina macbooks experience disappear while using only the IGC while browsing etc
 
BASTI51 said:
I think we will see an thinner 7 hour dualcore rMBP13 with Iris 5100 because there are no 37W core i5s out .
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You must have missed the post a few above yours. There are a whole heap of dual core i5 and i7 37w mobile chips just announced
 
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But those dual core U series 28W CPUs certainly look like a better option than those 37W ones. Didn't see any price for the 37W ones though, they don't seem up on Intel's site yet. But of course, the quad core 37W would be the redeemer.
 
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