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Waiting for Haswell MBP Mega Thread
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That's the joke.
EDIT: And by joke, I mean: "Slap in the face by Apple, after they spent half of WWDC proclaiming that they still care about the Pro market."
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If there is no update September 10th...I won't be happy but will at least have a new iPhone to hold me over. However I'm more anxious to get the rMBP, an iPhone can wait.
But we only have a month max to wait if no update at the event. I remember when there was no new rMBP at WWDC and September-October seemed like light years away.
But we only have a month max to wait if no update at the event. I remember when there was no new rMBP at WWDC and September-October seemed like light years away.
I won't lie--I envy you. And I agree that $1599 is a great deal for that machine. I just wish there was a way to get the refurb with 16GB RAM without also having to splurge on the fattest SSD.
Edit: Never mind--I just found a Feb/13 15" refurb in that config for $2049. $450 more than 8GB version makes for a pretty steep "BTO" RAM upgrade though, considering the two versions are otherwise very similar.
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Geekbench scores:
1.7GHz 13" MBA (mid 2013): 6826
2.6GHz 13" rMBP (early 2013): 6805
1.3GHz 13" MBA (mid 2013): 5934
I'm confident that I would not be able to tell the difference in actual use between machines scoring 6805 and 6826 on Geekbench.
The performance advantages of the Haswell MacBook Air over the Ivy Bridge MacBook Pro come from the PCIe SSD and the 802.11ac Wifi, but the latter would not affect the Geekbench results. I would have bought a Haswell MacBook Air if they had been upgraded with a Retina display. There is absolutely no way I would buy another Mac with a non-Retina display.
Damn just noticed that I just ordered the baseline 15" wonder if its worth that extra money for 8 more gigs and tiny CPU bump hmmm there's a 14 day return policy anyway
And if they don't put a quad in the 13" those numbers won't really change with the Haswell...
Not really familiar with how Geekbench does the tests but won't a pcie-ssd on the rMBP also make a difference in the score?
So it's likely the only significant benefit of the Haswell 13" rMBP over the current Air will be the display?
Hi all,
Patiently waiting for the new refresh also, coming from a Late 2007 MacBook (what a leap in performance that'll be
). Of course I am already fantasizing what the ideal config might be for my usage: video editing (FC), graphic design (AI, ID, PS), as well as some gaming, mostly strategy games.
I understand the new Haswell CPU could possibly have better computational power (OpenCL performance), which would benefit video editing. Is this a widely held view?
In relation to this, I'm doubting whether to go for 8GB or 16GB Ram. Which part of my usage would benefit most from this? I'm guessing mostly graphic design, although perhaps video rendering would also benefit?
Finally, I'm hoping to play mostly strategy games such as Europa Universalis, but perhaps also Rome 2: Total War. Just praying the new Iris Pro can handle this.
Anyway, looking at my total usage package, would be very interested to read what kind of config you guys would recommend. Should I max it out, or be a bit more restrained?
Patiently waiting for the new refresh also, coming from a Late 2007 MacBook (what a leap in performance that'll be
). Of course I am already fantasizing what the ideal config might be for my usage: video editing (FC), graphic design (AI, ID, PS), as well as some gaming, mostly strategy games.I understand the new Haswell CPU could possibly have better computational power (OpenCL performance), which would benefit video editing. Is this a widely held view?
In relation to this, I'm doubting whether to go for 8GB or 16GB Ram. Which part of my usage would benefit most from this? I'm guessing mostly graphic design, although perhaps video rendering would also benefit?
Finally, I'm hoping to play mostly strategy games such as Europa Universalis, but perhaps also Rome 2: Total War. Just praying the new Iris Pro can handle this.
Anyway, looking at my total usage package, would be very interested to read what kind of config you guys would recommend. Should I max it out, or be a bit more restrained?
If Apple uses the same clock speeds as the Air, then yes. But they haven't done that yet, so the assumption is that they'll still us 2.5GHz/2.6GHz which does make a difference. Whether it's significant or not depends on usage.
If you're getting a 15" rMBP, I suggest you get 16GB as you can't upgrade it afterwards.
If you're going for a classic MBP, I'd get as high a processor as you can (of course taking power/price into account). RAM and HD can be upgraded later.
But the Air has already been updated with Haswell a couple of months ago.....
The Retina display would be the main advantage of the 13" Haswell MBP over the 13" Haswell MBA, along with the ability to drive more/larger external displays, and more CPU performance. Also, the 13" MBP might be available with 16GB of RAM, a better iSight camera, more ports, maybe better speakers, etc.
Maxing out then - that's always the most tempting option I guess
. The question whether or not to go Retina is indeed still a good one. I heard different stories in terms of Retina benefits also - i.e. graphic design being hard to translate to non-Retina displays (differences in resolution etc). Interesting to see if Apple will continue the non-Retina MBPs.It's likely to have the same HD5000 as the Airs though, so graphics capabilities shouldn't change?
It will probably have the Iris 5100, which is mostly the same as the HD5000 but with faster clock speeds and more flexible thermal limits.
Maxing out then - that's always the most tempting option I guess
There's an app to help with that.
Cheers for the link.
Recapping: the new Haswell CPU most likely will benefit my video editing (rendering and such), while RAM will aid my graphic designing + gaming? Is there still someone daring to give any indications whether a game such as Rome 2 might work with an Iris Pro?
And of course, I am one of those persons torn between waiting for the refresh and itching to pull the trigger one a current model - while starting my new job next week, for which a new laptop would be very, very convenient.
Sarcasm doesn't translate well on the internet.
I was simply pointing out that what Apple has done (with regards to updating the consumer model before the pro) is unprecedented, and the release time-table in the previous post should not be viewed as a definitive fact (considering they were willing to break tradition on which model got the update first).
As jz- pointed out, the 13" Haswell rMBP will most likely have the Iris 5100 HD graphics, not 5000 HD graphics.
My gut says no, but benchmarks say it'll work fine. The game recommends 1GB memory for graphics though. So the 650M (1GB mem) would do fine but the Iris Pro might lag cus it's drawing memory from the system, since it doesn't have dedicated memory. That's my assumption anyway
Try it on a 13" Haswell MBA with Intel HD 5000 graphics. It will work a lot better than that.
I think I going to get the 13" MBA i7 if the 13" rMBP Haswell is not released... I don't see how I can benefit from retina screen if my laptop will be plugged to an external display most of the time...
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