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Would buying a 15" rMBP with a 2.7Ghz processor and 512SSD/16GB ram be advisable if one really needs a laptop now and can't wait anymore?

Of course getting a deal on it, not buying from Apple.

Improvements on the 15-inch won't be as big as the changes on 13. Go for it if you get a good deal and truly can't wait.
 
I'll do floors, I'll do sinks, I'll even do toilets, but I absolutely will not do Windows.

Sounds something a coach would say before a big game to motivate his player to win the game. It would be like "I'll do floors, I'll do sinks, I'll even do toilets, but I absolutely will not be outdone by [so and so]!!!!."Or just "I'll do floors, I'll do sinks, I'll even do toilets, but I absolutely will not lose!!!!!." I think most people here should be using Macs not because of some part they have (or should have), but as I said before:

It's the match making of the software, hardware, design, and OS that make Apple products the top-notch quality they are.


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Really? :rolleyes:

Any reasonable person knows what Windows' strengths are. But if Mac OS and some Mac-only apps isn't a significant factor in deciding to get a MBP, what else is there besides sleek design?

Idk, perhaps because they tend to last longer, but the OS should take some credit for that.
 
Would buying a 15" rMBP with a 2.7Ghz processor and 512SSD/16GB ram be advisable if one really needs a laptop now and can't wait anymore?

Of course getting a deal on it, not buying from Apple.

The refurb price for that model ($2379) is super tempting, but not knowing what Haswell prices will look like or what kind of spec bump they will bring, I've decided it's better to wait another few weeks for the peace of mind.
 
Another reason I use Macs is because for the kind of work I do, pretty much everyone uses Apple. And thus the applications are OS X-exclusive. Macs are great for creative types.

It's also the match of the hardware, software, and design. I also have high standards for the products I use, and Apple is the best company for that. I'm not about to go buy some Windows ultrabook that I would hate using.
 
Another reason I use Macs is because for the kind of work I do, pretty much everyone uses Apple. And thus the applications are OS X-exclusive. Macs are great for creative types.

It's also the match of the hardware, software, and design. I also have high standards for the products I use, and Apple is the best company for that. I'm not about to go buy some Windows ultrabook that I would hate using.

That about sums it up, PD. Call me superficial, call me brainwashed, call me a fanboy, but even the so-called "sleek" PC laptops look like absolute garbage to me compared to the Apple designs. And the few which actually manage to look acceptable are usually blatant Mac knockoffs. Coincidence? ;)

That said, I'm locked into the Apple ecosystem due to the recording software and audio interface I use, so I really don't have much choice in the matter. But after 10+ years of working bug-free/firewall-free/crash-free, I'm quite happy to be trapped in the "Apple Prison", even if it means paying a bit more for my computers. The end user experience is definitely worth it to me.
 
Would buying a 15" rMBP with a 2.7Ghz processor and 512SSD/16GB ram be advisable if one really needs a laptop now and can't wait anymore?

Of course getting a deal on it, not buying from Apple.

Yes, of course, if you need one now, buy one now.
 
Thing is, those are things I don't need, because I'm not going to be carrying this on a plane and I'm rarely far from a power plug.

Meanwhile, this one has a significantly bigger storage capacity, upgradable storage and memory, more USB ports, and a current (and fairly powerful) graphics chip. Those features are more important to me.

Hi Brian. I'm just trying to figure out the bigger storage thing. Your specs say 24GB. I'm sure there's a typo in there. So what is it really? The 15" I'm buys has 512gb
 
Would buying a 15" rMBP with a 2.7Ghz processor and 512SSD/16GB ram be advisable if one really needs a laptop now and can't wait anymore?

Of course getting a deal on it, not buying from Apple.
That's what i want to do too!

Do you have a great deal for that model? PM please :)
 
That about sums it up, PD. Call me superficial, call me brainwashed, call me a fanboy, but even the so-called "sleek" PC laptops look like absolute garbage to me compared to the Apple designs. And the few which actually manage to look acceptable are usually blatant Mac knockoffs. Coincidence? ;)

That said, I'm locked into the Apple ecosystem due to the recording software and audio interface I use, so I really don't have much choice in the matter. But after 10+ years of working bug-free/firewall-free/crash-free, I'm quite happy to be trapped in the "Apple Prison", even if it means paying a bit more for my computers. The end user experience is definitely worth it to me.

You know what amazes me? All the iPhone/iPad owners that don't have a Mac, or have even used one. It was the same deal when the iPod was dominant, but now it's worse.

Apple is loved by the masses now because of iOS. And there are so many people who have iPhones and iPads and are totally fanboy-ish and love Apple and everything they do.

I get that the laptop market is declining in sales, but it's just funny sometimes how the average consumer goes crazy over a new iPhone or something. At least people like us love Apple for what they did before iOS.
 
That about sums it up, PD. Call me superficial, call me brainwashed, call me a fanboy, but even the so-called "sleek" PC laptops look like absolute garbage to me compared to the Apple designs. And the few which actually manage to look acceptable are usually blatant Mac knockoffs. Coincidence? ;)

That said, I'm locked into the Apple ecosystem due to the recording software and audio interface I use, so I really don't have much choice in the matter. But after 10+ years of working bug-free/firewall-free/crash-free, I'm quite happy to be trapped in the "Apple Prison", even if it means paying a bit more for my computers. The end user experience is definitely worth it to me.

Hey I deserve a bit of credit too:D

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You know what amazes me? All the iPhone/iPad owners that don't have a Mac, or have even used one. It was the same deal when the iPod was dominant, but now it's worse.

Apple is loved by the masses now because of iOS. And there are so many people who have iPhones and iPads and are totally fanboy-ish and love Apple and everything they do.

I get that the laptop market is declining in sales, but it's just funny sometimes how the average consumer goes crazy over a new iPhone or something. At least people like us love Apple for what they did before iOS.

Yeah, one would think in theory that an iPod, iPhone, or iPad, would be a gateway drug to the greater Apple ecosystem. Too many people are set in the windows lifestyle, and they probably haven't even heard of Mac OSX, and if they did, they probably just thought it's for designers and other high end prosumers. Also funny, I hated Macs until I actually used one, and I fell in love with the OS right away, and the only reason I know about the pre-2000 Apple is because I read Steve Jobs' biography, because I'm only a grade 9 student.
 
But after 10+ years of working bug-free/firewall-free/crash-free, I'm quite happy to be trapped in the "Apple Prison", even if it means paying a bit more for my computers. The end user experience is definitely worth it to me.

While I'm happy to pay more for my computers, I am *not* happy about getting less for my money. And that's why I Hackintosh.

I started a few years ago when I wanted an expandable computer - specifically, I wanted an iMac but I wanted to be able to upgrade the video card, since graphics in iMacs have never been best-of-class. But the only Intel Mac that let me upgrade the video was a Mac Pro, and that put me into the $2500-and-up range. I didn't need a Xeon. So I built a PC and installed Mac OS X on it, and I've been happy ever since. Yes, it takes some care and attention to keep it running, but I'm a hacker, I like that.

Now we're waiting for the next MBP, whatever and whenever that may be. But Apple's been stripping it down... getting rid of stuff that, yes, I don't strictly *need*, but would it kill them to include an Ethernet port and a Kensington lock port? Are there really more people demanding to lose a few millimeters off the thickness than there are people who want to update their RAM or their internal drive a few years after they buy the laptop?

I don't *need* that stuff. But if I'm spending $2000 on a laptop, I really don't think I should have to give it up, especially when there are laptops for $1000 that'll give it to me. Yes, the $1000 laptops are heavier, their batteries last for 3 hours instead of 7, they're made of plastic, but those details don't matter as much to me, because with an MBP I know there will be a day I've got to put up with a hotel room's shoddy wifi because I forgot my Ethernet adapter dongle at home.

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Hi Brian. I'm just trying to figure out the bigger storage thing. Your specs say 24GB. I'm sure there's a typo in there. So what is it really? The 15" I'm buys has 512gb

The Lenovo has a 1TB hard drive, plus a 24GB SSD for caching.
 
Sorry, Leafs Fan. As a die-hard Habs fan, I'm afraid giving credit to your kind is simply not in my DNA. :p

Hey did ya hear, we signed kadri to a two-year contract. And I now have no sympathy for you for forgetting to give me credit, as I'm a die-hard leafs fan, as you can tell from my very conspicuous name:D

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because I'm only a grade 9 student.

No one saw that one coming, or did you?
 
Hey did ya hear, we signed kadri to a two-year contract. And I now have no sympathy for you for forgetting to give me credit, as I'm a die-hard leafs fan, as you can tell from my very conspicuous name:D

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No one saw that one coming, or did you?

So is the Haswell rMBP going to be your first Mac?
 
So is the Haswell rMBP going to be your first Mac?

Nah, I'll get the Broadwell Retina Macbook Pro. Sadly the only macs I've ever used is a school white macbook, and a school iMac from 2007~. My school computer lab last year was full of those iMacs. And of course when I've used them at an Apple store or bestbuy. And I hated Macs until 2010 when I first used one, and I cannot remember why I justified hating them.
 
If they wait until February I will go all the way to Cupertino from Kansas and demand to see Tim Cook so I can give him a piece of my mind! (I'd say something more colorful in place of this, but I don't want to be removed lol)

My 2009 MBP has been through 4 years of college and really shouldn't be used as an everyday machine. I don't want to do another first gen, and I can probably (hopefully) wait until the holidays.

2013 rMBP haswell i5 8gb RAM 256gb SSD

Tim Cook, are you listening?
 
You know what amazes me? All the iPhone/iPad owners that don't have a Mac, or have even used one.
There's a simple reason for this. The iPhone/iPad market is dominated by younger people whose parents will pay for the lower priced devices but draw the line at bigger ticket items (like macs).

I on the other hand... as a highly skilled parent of careless urchins have learned that it's cheaper to buy 1 laptop every four years than 3. :p
 
There's a simple reason for this. The iPhone/iPad market is dominated by younger people whose parents will pay for the lower priced devices but draw the line at bigger ticket items (like macs).

I on the other hand... as a highly skilled parent of careless urchins have learned that it's cheaper to buy 1 laptop every four years than 3. :p

Ahh, I would probably not fit in either go those categories, I only have an iPad, but if I get an 85 G.P.A. this year in high school, I'll get the Broadwell rmbp. Bribery is the best way to get a kid to do something, although I believe it's just really because I want a Mac, and they probably would've given me one even if they hadn't told me to get that 85 GPA. The 85 GPA is going to be I would think pretty easy for me to achieve. Usually I get pretty good marks, and I've never been given something for it (not counting school awards, of which I've earned a math award, and a science award) . Anyways, I think I kinda got off track there. Why the hell am I talking about my life, I'm probably boring you guys out.
 
That's what i want to do too!

Do you have a great deal for that model? PM please :)



Apple 15.4" MacBook Pro (with Retina display) quad-core Intel Core i7 2.7GHz, 16GB RAM, 768GB Flash Storage, Intel HD Graphics 4000, NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M with 1GB GDDR5, Intel HD Graphics 4000, Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion (Z0ML4LL/A)

$2518.99 through MacMall with appleinsider promo code.
 
And I now feel as if I've lost the respect of you guys too. It'll just be some kid replying instead of some random probably 20-40 yearold guy.
 
And I now feel as if I've lost the respect of you guys too. It'll just be some kid replying instead of some random probably 20-40 yearold guy.

As long as you know what you're talking about, nobody cares. At younger than your age, I was doing way more things than a blog.

But you might be waiting until 2015 for the Broadwell rMBP. I need a Haswell rMBP ASAP, I really have work to do. So let it be October already.
 
As long as you know what you're talking about, nobody cares. At younger than your age, I was doing way more things than a blog.

But you might be waiting until 2015 for the Broadwell rMBP. I need a Haswell rMBP ASAP, I really have work to do. So let it be October already.

If you don't mind me asking, what line of work do you occupy yourself in?
 
If you don't mind me asking, what line of work do you occupy yourself in?

Writing. OS X is a great platform for this, and as a non-owner of the current rMBP, I can't wait to use the Retina display. That said, my main writing program has not been updated to Retina yet. But it looks like that will be coming around the same time as the Haswell rMBP. Double awesome!

The new iPhone will hold me over for now.
 
Writing. OS X is a great platform for this, and as a non-owner of the current rMBP, I can't wait to use the Retina display. That said, my main writing program has not been updated to Retina yet. But it looks like that will be coming around the same time as the Haswell rMBP. Double awesome!

The new iPhone will hold me over for now.

Writing as in non-fiction/fiction books, or writing articles from some sort of news website/newspaper, or perhaps writing marketing materiel. Or is it something I missed?
 
Writing as in non-fiction/fiction books, or writing articles from some sort of news website/newspaper, or perhaps writing marketing materiel. Or is it something I missed?

I used to do journalism, but now I'm an aspiring screenwriter specifically.
 
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