Whenever i see posts about the MBA vs MBP/rMBP debate, people tend to forget one major drawback of the Air. Yes, the MBA is a pretty snappy machine but if you're trying to do some CPU intensive work like rendering or video editing (plus any other tasks that keep the system busy) the tiny fan of the MBA pretty soon gets annoying as hell. That's even worse when you're sitting in a space with other people giving you funny looks because your MacBook sounds like it tries to propel itself into space. That was one reason for me to return my i7 Haswell Air, the other one was the screen.
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Waiting for Haswell MBP Mega Thread
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Not in Germany. By the way the refurbished store is so full of rMBP today. They always had 1 or 2 around, but right now there are 10-12. It is even more interesting, because the refurbished market is basically not existent here. Looks to me like a big stock cleaning. Or like all the other hints about a near Haswell launch, it means nothing and the february guys are right.
That's something I'm going to have to live with I suppose. Good thing winter's coming around
A lot of the good VFM options have been disappearing from the refurb store since yesterday's event. A lot of people were waiting for the haswell update and decided to buy something else instead because there's work to be done!
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bit the bullet 2 days before the iphone event in a prediction they wouldn't release any new macs and to my relief they didnt its a beast of a machine (standard 15 retina) but i do feel some regret in not waiting and am deliberating in whether or not to return it and wait, i start uni on the 23rd and reckon i could hold out a couple of weeks without a laptop the pressure got to me haha
bit the bullet 2 days before the iphone event in a prediction they wouldn't release any new macs and to my relief they didnt its a beast of a machine (standard 15 retina) but i do feel some regret in not waiting and am deliberating in whether or not to return it and wait, i start uni on the 23rd and reckon i could hold out a couple of weeks without a laptop
the pressure got to me haha The release of Macs does not in any way depend on the release of Mavericks. If any Macs are released together with Mavericks, it would be an unusual but not unique coincidence and nothing more.
If you mean the last version of DDR3 and the first version of DDR4, then the performance difference between DDR3-2133 and DDR4-2133 will be exactly zero and they both run at 2133 MT/s.
It is far from certain, but I believe there is a good chance that Apple will release a 31.5" 3840x2160 Retina Thunderbolt Display at the same time as the new Mac Pro.
DDR4 won't be an improvement until we break into higher speeds. Just like DDR3 started off at 800-1066 MHz effective over DDR2.
Not true. Haswell and Mavrix go hand-in-hand with all the power tweaks found in both hardware and OS. Perhaps they want them introduced together to take away some of the shock after removing the dGPU from the MBP15?
I gave up waiting and ordered a MacBook Air earlier today. Just hope it has enough grunt for me or it'll be up for sale when the MacBook Pro refresh finally arrives!
That would be one majestic display! Hopefully the Haswell rMBP's can drive it if it is released. It would cost a fortune. Just wish it wouldn't be glossy but that's probably asking too much.
Based on GeekBench benchmarks seen in the wild back in June. Didn't include a dGPU, and they've removed it on the 13" model already.
See this article:
https://www.macrumors.com/2013/07/09/next-generation-15-inch-macbook-pro-shows-up-in-benchmarks/
As many others I'm waiting for the new RMBP for school.
I actually bought a RMBP 13" a few weeks back but returned due to annoying scroll lag(mostly on flash websites but even when scrolling through a lot of pictures.)
I'm now waiting for a new RBMP to drop, but I can't stop thinking about that this might not happen? Is there any concrete evidence that suggests that there will be a new RBMP this year with haswell, other then the tests on GB or the fact that MBA has it?
Would it be smart to wait for the october keynote, and if nothing shows up there we could assume that it won't happen this year, so I can buy the current RMBP and stop thinking about this?
I actually bought a RMBP 13" a few weeks back but returned due to annoying scroll lag(mostly on flash websites but even when scrolling through a lot of pictures.)
I'm now waiting for a new RBMP to drop, but I can't stop thinking about that this might not happen? Is there any concrete evidence that suggests that there will be a new RBMP this year with haswell, other then the tests on GB or the fact that MBA has it?
Would it be smart to wait for the october keynote, and if nothing shows up there we could assume that it won't happen this year, so I can buy the current RMBP and stop thinking about this?
IDF 2013 is full of goodies. These sticks are at 32 GB density. I believe that DDR3 is capable of such capacities as well. Price be damned.
http://wccftech.com/idf-13-kingston-ddr4-ram-modules-192-gb-ram-kit/
http://wccftech.com/idf-13-kingston-ddr4-ram-modules-192-gb-ram-kit/
Yeah, can we kill all these Broadwell in early 2014 speculations? Fun is one thing but this is misleading to people who don't follow tech developments closely. Broadwell was an uncertainty for 2014 at all until Intel's official statements appeared.
Let's remember that desktop parts like the 4770K appeared at the beginning of June, which is technically Q2 I think. So even if Haswell begins appearing halfway through 2014, that doesn't imply a supply of appropriate chips for MBPs that early. We'd be lucky if they can hit a fall Broadwell MBP launch.
There's also no chance Haswell appears in Feb. October is the Mavericks and rMBP launch date (something most of us were well aware of when killing time speculating about a Sept refresh). Most likely Mac Pro and iMac as well. If anything it's major iPad updates that could be pushed back.
I can provide some analytical evidence as well: "Little" Kepler is the worst compute GPU around. Great gaming chip, terrible for compute. By design, actually, to reduce costs, improve yields, and allow for higher clock speeds. NVidia has absolutely nothing decent to offer Apple on the mobile compute front (and this is supposed to be a "pro" machine, not a gaming laptop) unless they can shrink a "Big" Kepler GK110 for notebook format and not have it end up with a huge TDP.
Such a chip does not currently exist, so Apple would end up putting an HD 4600 (all-around poor) with a 750m (good for gaming, terrible for compute) and end up spending more money for less compute power compared to a 5200. Maybe AMD has something appropriate? I have to admit I've stopped following their progress as they haven't done anything impressive in CPU or GPU in quite a while.
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I know this is a dumb question, but whats the probability that there will be a rMBP with haswell in october?
Desktop quad core and mobile quad core are the first chips to show up for mass production. If it's June 2013, I expect it in June 2014. Frankly, I wasn't expecting Broadwell at all in 2014.
Release is now on Apple's whims. The hardware is available for many other vendors.
Nobody can tell you. It would certainly make sense for Apple to release refreshed models in October alongside Mavericks but it's not guaranteed.
Now I'm still asking myself why I haven't just gone and bought a PC laptop that has twice the specs the haswell rMBP will have for half the cost. I don't believe it should take Apple this long to release new tech...by the time it's out it is already getting old and you feel as though you have less time between refreshes to enjoy the "new" product.
100%. Let me rephrase that, I don't have any inside info, but I'd happily place real money bets on an October Haswell rMBP refresh if we have any takers.
Show me this product, because none of the direct rMBP competitors seem to be out there yet. I see lots of bloated Windows gaming laptops, most of which are heavy, hot monsters I wouldn't want to carry, but none of the cool serious competition is out. That Asus has only been announced, the Vaio Pro 13 runs the same type of chips as the Air, and Sony's interesting looking convertible has a totally unknown release date. Samsung hasn't even released their ... I originally said "blatant copy," but I'll be generous and say competitive laptop.
Does the OS mean nothing to you? Even if there was a magical PC notebook that was half the price and twice as powerful as the rMBP, you'd still have.. Windows?
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Off topic - there wasn't any leaked geekbench data of the original 15-inch retina MBP early 2012, right?
Does the OS mean nothing to you? Even if there was a magical PC notebook that was half the price and twice as powerful as the rMBP, you'd still have.. Windows?
This is going to sound like trolling, but OS X is just UNIX with a graphical frontend. I'm not terribly excited about either O/S.
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