Lol. It wouldn't be all that difficult. Remember, I'm thinking a laptop and its only a scribbled signature. I wouldn't want to pen a novel like that
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Lol. It wouldn't be all that difficult. Remember, I'm thinking a laptop and its only a scribbled signature. I wouldn't want to pen a novel like that
I don't think it is about an iPad replacement either. Just as the iPod Nano was not a replacement to the iPod. We are merely talking about different varieties of device with similar aspects.
Now your point about the Modbook, this is not a notebook this is a tablet form factor device with pen input which is heavily geared towards creative professionals. Touch screens work best in a tablet form factor due to the way you can prop them up or lay them flat on a table or on your lap.
The MacBook Pro does not lend itself well to a touch screen physically because it's a clamshell design with a hinge in the middle. The screen does not detach, can you imagine using a pen input on a vertical or almost vertical surface? It would be very cumbersome and a poor experience, your hand wants to lay flat when writing or drawing with the display as a palm rest.
So if we keep on this train of thought of Apple placing a touch screen in a notebook form factor we just eliminated the Pen because it isn't ergonomic. This means the touch screen would only be useful for finger input, but a finger is much larger than a pen or the curser of a mouse and OS X has always been designed for a mouse cursor.
And so this brings me back to my original post, would Apple conceivably alter OS X's user interface to make all the buttons, dropdowns and dialog boxes larger for finger input or will they keep the touch input for iOS devices where logically it makes the most sense? We have already seen Microsoft stumble with their frankenstein Windows 8 attempt at this idea, I don't think Apple wants nor needs to follow in their footsteps when they already have a blow-out success on their hands with the iPad.
Also I just want to point out that Nokia didn't ignore the Smart Phone. They pretty much invented the Smart Phone with their Nokia Communicator phones. Their real problem was they held on to the S60 operating system for longer than it made sense and didn't react to Apples iPhone OS quickly enough. To put it another way, Nokia was shipping Mac OS 9 in a Mac OS X Tiger world post iPhone and that is what led to their eventual downfall in the smartphone space.
I'm not against a touch screen just because. I do agree that many people against the touch screen respond emotionally, but I don't want it included like the way Microsoft did it.
When and if Apple can include it in a way that makes sense, then I'm OK with that. I just wouldn't want it to be done to appeal to the masses. All electronics (namely tablets/smartphones) are moving towards being consumption devices, and that drives me insane.
When and if Apple can include it in a way that makes sense, then I'm OK with that. I just wouldn't want it to be done to appeal to the masses. All electronics (namely tablets/smartphones) are moving towards being consumption devices, and that drives me insane.
The company I work at has adopted Windows 8 with absolutely no problems. I don't understand where all these ideas of "unusable" come from. If you don't want to use the big "metro" icons all you have to do is go to the Desktop. Other than when you want to search for a program or file do you really need to get into the start menu interface. Nobody is forcing you to use touch, how many of you criticizing it have actually spent some time with Windows 8 other than playing around with it at a kiosk or poking around on a friend's computer?
As a genuine question, what is your workflow that has Windows 8 so counter productive to your work?
If by unusable you mean "WTF I cannot click the Desktop icon" sure it is unusable.
As a genuine question, what is your workflow that has Windows 8 so counter productive to your work?
If by unusable you mean "WTF I cannot click the Desktop icon" sure it is unusable.
Dude. You prove their very point. Microsoft advertises Win8 one way. People use it in quite another.
I was going to ignore your post because if it works for you, great. But then I remembered this has been rehashed ten thousand times. So here's one from recent memory, that should cover some points why people don't like it. And yes I have used it. (In fact I've tried it since, whatever their first 'Beta' or whatever they called it then was.)
http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1ifxwf/serious_users_of_windows_8_is_it_really_as_bad_as/
The UX works for you, good. Don't assume people hate it only because they read somewhere that it sucks.
I think windows 7 is one of the best consumer OSes ever. Windows 8, underneath all the indirection, is most certainly a solid OS.
I'm not going to be sucked into this "debate," surely you're welcome to counter whatever I've said, but the point is, not everyone hates it blindly.
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Guys! Just woke up. Didn't even realize it was Friday
it's obvious now. Morning, folks!
Guys! Just woke up. Didn't even realize it was Friday
Morning, folks!
What rumors do you have for breakfast
I've resigned myself to them being released in parallel with Mavericks. Bloody annoying though, my wife's nagging me daily as she wants the hand-me-down Ive-Bridge piece-of-crap...
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I've resigned myself to them being released in parallel with Mavericks. Bloody annoying though, my wife's nagging me daily as she wants the hand-me-down Ive-Bridge piece-of-crap...
The last hope is this next week on the 24th. After than it's going to be several more weeks and yes, probably in conjunction with Mavericks.
What about the october event, or is that event that you are refferring to when saying several more weeks?
It's very intuitive though, is that un-Apple? Not as the primary input method like iOS, but for everyday OS actions where pixel accuracy doesn't matter - dragging random icons around, resizing objects, panning documents - touch is immediate and intuitive, better than touchpad. Who would seriously argue for a non-interactive screen over an interactive one?
What about the october event, or is that event that you are refferring to when saying several more weeks?
That's the event I'm referring to. It will be the iPad event (mainly) but of course we don't yet know the exact date.
Yeah thats what I thought! =)
What about if the Dont announce anything at the october event, do you still think that we will see a new MPB this year?
Now have a look at the Sony multi-flip or duo, or even the Acer r7 or the "old-school" fujitsu t902 and imagine that Apple released something like that (i.e. an convertible)...
In my "ecosystem" there's a peaceful co-existence between Mac, Win and Linux. So far it was a Mac laptop, a Windows "main computer" and a Linux homeserver and I think that this has served me best so far. Luckily I got too old for serious gaming, so it seems that my next stationary machine will soon be an iMac while the mobile version will be the Sony.
The delay might very well be due to some Apple-specific Haswell chip with a beefier GPU. We'll see. Hopefully soon!
I understand if people don't like it. The UX experience is different and I agree that Microsoft may be out of sync here. That's not lost on me. However I genuinely am wondering why some people feel it's unusable. Not why they dislike it or think it's ugly. Simply why they think it's unusable. I'm looking for those reasons why they can't use it, not why they don't want to use it (which is all fair game).
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