ValSalva
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I do hope Macs just get a mention at the event. But the iPad and iPhone are Apple's gravy train 😉 So they may not get a specific mention. But yes, IMO there will be Haswell rMBP's this year and most likely in October.
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I do hope Macs just get a mention at the event. But the iPad and iPhone are Apple's gravy train 😉 So they may not get a specific mention. But yes, IMO there will be Haswell rMBP's this year and most likely in October.
I have and it sucks ass just like Windows 2012... WTF were MS thinking?
I actively uninstall that PoS Windows 8 and install Windows 7 on every new laptop that passes me.
New SW is supposed to be better, faster and improve your productivity; Win8 fails in all measures... and it starts right at the login screen.. +1 extra click/key press.
I'm still on the fence between a new rMBP or the damn Dell 3800 (w/ Win7) I don't care about leaving finger prints all over my screen.... first to market gets my $
If you got rid of every post in this thread that wasn't actualy solid information on the macbook pro, I reckon you'd be down to two pages.
The Leafs Fan
macrumors 6502a
I see what you did there😉. Let's start up the dGPU or iGPU debate again. Maybe someone should come over and explain yet again why they think the haswell rmbp will have a dgpu, most likely giving comparisons to dgpu equipped PC laptops, and saying that a pro machine has to have a dgpu. Also, they would say if you argued with them that you should buy a MacBook Air, or wait for the imaginary retina MacBook Air. IGPU people will claim that the heavily disputed fact that the iGPU would bring battery and cost savings over a dgpu equipped rmbp. They would cite the 13-inch rmbp as an example, and therefore make it clear that Apple's roadmap all along was to get rid of the dgpu once integrated gpus reached some sort of goal. And the argument goes on and on and on.......
In the US store, all Macs (MBA, MBP, Mac mini, and Mac Pro) except the iMac now show 1-2 days shipping. It's not clear whether or not this means anything with respect to future product releases.
The Leafs Fan
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Maybe we should bring up the rumour from a month or two ago where speculation was on whether Apple would add more execution units and/or cache to the Iris and Iris Pro integrated GPUs.
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It couldn't mean anything in respect to future product releases if the MacBook Air is now showing 1-2 days shipping and the iMac isn't. Or maybe Apple is going to do some sort of semi-refresh for the MacBook Air in October and delay the iMac refresh to November.
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Have you actually read this thread? A lot of these pages were about the iGPU vs DGPU debate, or what benefits haswell would bring, or how this delay could signify a new release, or what benefits and to what cost IGZO would bring, speculation on announcement dates, speculation on a modified iGPU, speculation on a possible touch-ID sensor in the rmbp, etc.
That is essentially the possibility I had in mind. Apple could introduce a Retina MBA, for example, or a minor revision perhaps including Thunderbolt 2. iMac inventory might simply be a little bit heavier than for the other Macs or the Haswell iMac may be planned for a release later in October than the others, early November, or early 2014. We just don't know. The temptation is to read too much into the very few facts we have.
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Hey Guys
I am running workshops and courses using Keynote and would love to leave charger at home.
I hav tried 13 and 15 inch retina macs but the battery last only about 4 hours when I connect to the projector.
I would love to have 11 MBA to carry as is with VGA-adapter. But i do not trust 9 hours would last the day. Thinking about 13 MBA with 12 hours promise. But then I might as well wait and buy 13 Mac Book retina if the can excel in battery time. I do not care for extra GPU as I only run Keynote and want to be on the go without charger.
So what to do?
By the way. I don't like that apple never updates iWork since 2009. It feels that they hardly care for Mac users and are only going for iPads/iPhones. Just to punish apple for that I switched to Galaxy S4 after 6 generations of iPhones. I love the 5 inch screen estate and that I can insert a micro sd card with films in most different formats. And i love the Swype-keyboard🙂
Hey Guys
I am running workshops and courses using Keynote and would love to leave charger at home.
I hav tried 13 and 15 inch retina macs but the battery last only about 4 hours when I connect to the projector.
I would love to have 11 MBA to carry as is with VGA-adapter. But i do not trust 9 hours would last the day. Thinking about 13 MBA with 12 hours promise. But then I might as well wait and buy 13 Mac Book retina if the can excel in battery time. I do not care for extra GPU as I only run Keynote and want to be on the go without charger.
So what to do?
By the way. I don't like that apple never updates iWork since 2009. It feels that they hardly care for Mac users and are only going for iPads/iPhones. Just to punish apple for that I switched to Galaxy S4 after 6 generations of iPhones. I love the 5 inch screen estate and that I can insert a micro sd card with films in most different formats. And i love the Swype-keyboard🙂
Quu
macrumors 68040
The Multi-Flip is a nice machine I agree but I don't think Apple will go that way. They are using a Retina display it needs a larger light bar and they are always trying to go thinner it doesn't lend itself well to a hinge and they can't really make the display removable for the same reasons, the Retina display is very power hungry and it is unrealistic for them to fit a battery and basically a whole computer in to the screen without making it very bulky and ugly.
I just don't see it happening from a hardware or software standpoint and really they don't need to do it they are already the undisputed leader in tablets with the iPad.
The Leafs Fan
macrumors 6502a
Would yields be high enough for a retina MacBook Air in theory? Battery life I'm guessing, would be probably down to ivy-bridge mileage. Intel HD Graphics 5000 would handle the job of driving a retina displays with ease, as the 13-inch retina MacBook Pro could handle a retina display, relying on Intel HD Graphics 4000. I was thinking in more of the minor revision direction as it would be alike to last year's iPad 4th generation refresh. Just like last year, maybe Apple wants to bring all the Macs on par with thundebolt 2, as they did with lightning a year ago. However, it's not the exact same situation as last year, because lightning was not backwards compatible with the 30-pin connector used up until then, and lightning or a 30-pin connector port is essential to using an iDevice, while thunderbolt 2 is both backwards compatible and scarcely used.
I've been starting to read only the comments, which are hyperlinked to get valid new information. 🙂 Too often I read and hear the same arguements for every position on every possible part.
So true. If I have to listen to one more dGPU iGPU debate, whether it's called discreet GPU or dedicated GPU, or whether someone walked into an apple shop in the middle of cambodia the other day and a guy cleaning the floor there winked at them twice and edged his head towards the fourth corner in the room suggesting that the haswell MBPs were coming in the fourth quarter of 2013, I will pull my hair out...
Wait a minute!!! You used 410 characters there. Which means rMBP will be released on the 10th day of 4th quarter!
I don't believe there is anything out there that will meet your objectives without a power supply or supplemental battery. The Apple battery projections are based on something like 50% screen brightness and moderate use scenarios. If you're draining a retina MBP in 4 hrs, you'll drain a MBA in what, 6-7 hrs? Sorry, power tech just ain't where you need it to be yet.
Retina Airs, if Apple goes that way, are more likely with Broadwell next year, since that's also expected to bring battery life improvements, and that's conveniently 4 years since the last design change to unibody. I really can't see Apple refreshing them after a four month cycle for TB2 though. TB2 would probably be more of a priority for the Pro than the Air.
I confirm that also in Italy all MBP and MBA are delivered within 1-2 working days.
Stocks are surely low, hope this means a refresh in october
Stocks are surely low, hope this means a refresh in october
Ok but I can put my own screen on minimum brightness, as I am using the projector. I thought the big differences was that if you have a dedicated GPU it will drain the battery faster rather then using the built in. Otherwise it should be not so hard working with no Wifi etc. Just showing slides after slides. Not much hard disc activity.
7 hours would be just about fine!
borgqueens
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Also in the Danish Apple store it 1-2 days. So perhaps the production of the current Mac´s have been lowered to make more of the next generation Mac with Haswell.
But who knows perhaps it will be back to normal 24 hours on monday.
I so hope to se the Haswell rMBP soon
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When I turn my brightness down on my MacBook Pro when watching a movie on netflix or watching youtube videos I get longer battery life compared to when the brightness is way up.
So without ever using a projector in that manner I think you can get longer battery life if you turn brightness way down.
Is it possible that this is just because they are prioritizing iPhone shipments? I'm just guessing here. I hope your right and it's new products coming!
Or MBP makers are too busy with 5s. Which might mean even more delays.
http://appadvice.com/appnn/2013/09/...ok-pro-supplier-to-boost-iphone-5s-production
sarakn
macrumors 6502a
Didn't we just go through this a few weeks ago when US stores were reporting delayed shipments or something like that?
Just false hopes...
I guess it's because it got world wide but it's true I don't see that as a clue either.
A bit off-topic who got a shiny new 5s today? 😀
FloatingBones
macrumors 68000
You're welcome to jump in. 🙂
I could stipulate that that the majority of iOS users would use their Touch ID validation more frequently. OTOH, if/when App Store and other purchases were available through this [hypothetical] Mac validation device, some users would definitely use it very frequently there.
What I can't tell if @zOlid realizes is the potential win in having Touch ID be available on all new AAPL devices in the next 12 months. It becomes a kind of branding; it also becomes a way to encourage long-term Apple users to upgrade to this new tech.
Thanks. I'm trying to think of the seminal bits of technology in my life: where one company created a tool that made a huge difference in the world. I think that HP did that back in 1972 with the HP35 (good Wikipedia article). HP co-founder Bill Hewlett issued a SJ-like challenge to his engineering staff, and they delivered. HP even issued a retro version of the calculator on the 25th anniversary:
Before the HP-35, the only calculators that existed could do addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division. HP sold the calculator for $395 (over $2100 adjusted for inflation today), and they wildly exceeded their sales projections.
I don't really think this incremental improvement is comparable to the HP-35, but that machine from history taught a valuable lesson. Unless the HP-35 (and its successors) got the math right, the would have been worthless and a commercial failure. In a similar fashion, unless Touch ID provides atomic validation of fingerprints, it will be worthless for Macs. I don't think that @zOlid realizes the risks of putting Touch ID on a separate keyboard...
Agree that it won't happen (<sarcasm>because Apple moved from an innovative computer brand to some lifestyle gadget consumer company</sarcasm>).
On the other hand compare the resolutions (15"):
- Retsina: 2880×1800
- Sony multi-flip: 2880 x 1620
How come that Sony can and that Apple can't...
Sony's 15"er is 2 kg and the 13" is 1.2 kg (I think that's even lighter than the Air).
I had the order page all set up to buy the new iPhone, but I just couldn't pull the trigger right then and there. If the Haswell rMBP were out now, I wouldn't even hesitate.
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